Mr. GRIFFIN. Is that in the jail part of the building?
Mr. NEWMAN. Yes. On the second floor, just to the right of the
elevator, there is some city offices there other than the police
department.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Is that right?
Mr. NEWMAN. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. And you were on the elevator, stationed on the elevators
there?
Mr. NEWMAN. No; I was at the stairway.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What were you to be doing there at the stairway?
Mr. NEWMAN. My instructions were that no one was to be in there except
press, police, and anyone who had a business. There were several
civilians who came into the building. I recall one witness who, in
accident, he was escorted into where he was going and escorted out.
Mr. GRIFFIN. How long did you remain there?
Mr. NEWMAN. Until about 8:30 p.m. About 2 hours.
Mr. GRIFFIN. And then where did you go?
Mr. NEWMAN. I was relieved and went home.
Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Now, while you were there, did you talk to
Sergeant Dean?
Mr. NEWMAN. Well, no; but I didn't see Sergeant Dean the rest of the
day.
Mr. GRIFFIN. At any time before you left duty, did anybody from the
police department talk to you about writing a report or anything like
that?
Mr. NEWMAN. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, while you were standing around there before you left
duty, did you hear any rumors about how Jack Ruby got in the building?
What was the first rumor that you heard about how Ruby got in the
building?
Mr. NEWMAN. The first I heard was not over 2 weeks ago in an account in
a newspaper.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I don't understand. It was not over 2 weeks ago in an
account----
Mr. NEWMAN. An article. The first--anything I had heard, rumor or
otherwise, as to how he got into the building.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You mean 2 weeks ago from today?
Mr. NEWMAN. During the trial, approximately 2 weeks.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You didn't hear any rumors over television; didn't read
any rumors in the newspaper?
Mr. NEWMAN. Well, let me retract that. I do recall a statement that
Ruby himself made. I don't remember when it was. It was sometime in the
4 months between the incident and the trial. I think he had boasted how
easy it was, or he couldn't have planned it that well, or something.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you take a daily newspaper?
Mr. NEWMAN. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you take any news magazines?
Mr. NEWMAN. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Time?
Mr. NEWMAN. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Life?