Mr. GRIFFIN. And, is that north, south, east, or west of the----

Mr. NEWMAN. It's immediately south of the downtown area.

Mr. GRIFFIN. And how far from Commerce Street; how many blocks from

Commerce Street?

Mr. NEWMAN. As I recall, I think it's 3 blocks.

Mr. GRIFFIN. And is a police garage there?

Mr. NEWMAN. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, did you walk up Harwood?

Mr. NEWMAN. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. And do you recall what entrance you entered?

Mr. NEWMAN. I entered Commerce Street door that leads into the basement.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, do you have any recollection of whether there were

any TV wires strung through there?

Mr. NEWMAN. Yes; there was a large van parked on Commerce Street, on

the corner of Commerce and Harwood, and there was all kinds of cables.

I don't recall whether there were any going in that door or not. There

might have been, possibly.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Were there any TV cables coming down the Commerce Street

ramp?

Mr. NEWMAN. Not to my recollection.

Mr. GRIFFIN. I believe you spent some time after you were placed on

duty over in the garage area?

Mr. NEWMAN. That's right.

Mr. GRIFFIN. And, as I understand it, close to Commerce Street?

Mr. NEWMAN. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. And you were guarding the door to the enginerooms, in that

general area?

Mr. NEWMAN. Well, the first thing, when I first got there, I was

assigned to help search the automobiles that were parked in the garage.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes; I want to get to that. I am going to go a little

backwards on this.

Mr. NEWMAN. All right.

Mr. GRIFFIN. I want to get the questioning. Where you were finally

stationed prior to the time Oswald was shot, was that near the

entrance, the doorway to the engineroom?

Mr. NEWMAN. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, I am going to get a map, diagram here, and I would

like for you to try to think back to that. I am going to mark this

Newman Exhibit 5037. Now, Mr. Newman, this is a copy of the diagram of

the basement area of the Police and Court Building in Dallas. I will

try to explain it to you, and then if you have any questions, why, I

will try to answer those. But you see in this area is the jail office,

Harwood is off in this direction. There is Main, there is Commerce

[indicating]. Now, this dotted line here running parallel to Commerce

Street is actually the outside wall above ground level, and here would

be Commerce Street, if you were at ground level, here would be the

sidewalk, here would be the outside wall. However, when you are in the

basement, this diagram purports to represent anyhow, that the basement

wall is this solid black line over here, and I presume that that's

true, although I have never checked it myself.

Mr. NEWMAN. It looks to be.

Mr. GRIFFIN. And do--these other black marks around here represent

posts [indicating]. Now, would you indicate on this diagram where it

was that you were stationed by--well, where it was you were stationed

in connection with the security of the basement, after the search of

the basement?

Mr. NEWMAN. I was placed right at the place of this column. There is

what this is, isn't it?

Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.

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