Mr. HUBERT. And where the down ramp going----

Mr. KRISS. All this area right on this side. That is where they were

all standing.

Mr. HUBERT. Well, you can't say "this side," sir. While I understand

it----

Mr. KRISS. The east side. The east side, excuse me. The east side. I

keep forgetting she's taking it down.

Mr. HUBERT. They were all standing up against the rail?

Mr. KRISS. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Right by the television cameras.

Mr. KRISS. Right.

Mr. HUBERT. Is that correct?

Mr. KRISS. Right; that's right.

Mr. HUBERT. And then the ramp going from the basement down into the

parking area?

Mr. KRISS. Yes; right.

Mr. HUBERT. And further along toward Commerce Street along that rail?

Mr. KRISS. Yes; there was a truck there, large truck here and another

car pulled up right behind the armored truck.

Mr. HUBERT. Both on the Commerce Street side?

Mr. KRISS. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Directing your attention again to whether there were a

great number of people in an area that I am now marking with an oblong

and going to call it "area A," and----

Mr. KRISS. That area there?

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