Mr. HUBERT. That is the Sunday after the President's death.
Mr. KRISS. That is Sunday after--yes, sir; yes.
Mr. HUBERT. You were at home at the time?
Mr. KRISS. Yes, sir; I was getting ready to play golf. Four or five
more minutes and I'd have been gone.
Mr. HUBERT. And you were called to report?
Mr. KRISS. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. And when you did report, did you report in uniform?
Mr. KRISS. Yes; surely I did.
Mr. HUBERT. Well, Mr. Kriss, I am showing you here two documents which
concern what you have already had to say about the matter.
Mr. KRISS. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. And I think we can save considerable time if I'll ask you
to identify these and comment upon them, but before doing so I wish to
identify them as exhibits so that we can speak of them in those terms.
Mr. KRISS. Okay.
Mr. HUBERT. Therefore, on the letter, or copy of a letter dated
November 26, addressed to J. E. Curry, the original of which, I
suppose, was signed by you, I am marking it for identification,
"Dallas, Texas, March 26, 1964, Exhibit 5106. Deposition of H. M.
Kriss." I will put "reserve officer." I will sign my name to that,
and I note that this Exhibit 5106 consists of one page only. The next
document is a report of an interview made December 3, 1963, with you by
the FBI Agents Wilkinson and Hardin and it consists of two pages. I am
marking the first page, "Dallas, Texas, March 26, 1964, Exhibit 5107.
Deposition of H. M. Kriss." Or, rather, "reserve officer", and I am
signing my name on the first page and placing my initials in the lower
right-hand corner of the second page. Now, Mr. Kriss, you have read
both of these statements I believe?
Mr. KRISS. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Are these substantially correct?
Mr. KRISS. Substantially; yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you have any additions to add to it?
Mr. KRISS. I can't think of any.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you have anything that you see that is wrong that should
be deleted?
Mr. KRISS. No, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Well, then, in order that your testimony just now
concerning these documents may be tied into the particular documents,
I would like you to sign them so that the record will show that we are
both talking about the same documents.
Mr. KRISS. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Just write underneath my signature.
Mr. KRISS. Well, do you have a pen?
Mr. HUBERT. Yes; you can use that one. Just initial the second page.
Now, sign--initial the second page on the FBI report.
Mr. KRISS. You want me to sign?
Mr. HUBERT. Yes; just sign under my name. I think there is only one
point I want to clarify about this matter. Are you familiar with the
chart or map made by the Dallas Police Department of the basement area
showing the positions of all the various officers?
Mr. KRISS. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Well, in the report that they have filed, the documents
relative to your statements, you are identified in that report as No.
61. As a matter of fact, attached to the map was a key, showing that 61
was H. M. Kriss. It shows, however, that you were standing, at the time
of the shooting, in the north part, I suppose it would be, on the Main
Street ramp?
Mr. KRISS. No.
Mr. HUBERT. And I notice that your statement says it was different.
Mr. KRISS. No; I wasn't.
Mr. HUBERT. Even so, to clarify that, I would like you to see what this
is so you can see what I am talking about. See your number on this key.
This 61?
Mr. KRISS. 61; yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, when you get to this map--see 61 on the Main Street
ramp?
Mr. KRISS. That is the Main Street ramp. That is where I was after--it
was--that is where I placed myself when they said, "Don't let anyone
out of the basement."
Mr. HUBERT. All right. That will clarify it then.
Mr. KRISS. You can see it on television. I saw it the other night again
where I ran across and when they said, "Don't let anyone out of the
basement," that is where I placed myself.
Mr. HUBERT. I think that is going to explain that, and in order to make
it a matter of record, I am going to ask you to show your position
before the shooting, and your position after the shooting on this map,
but first let me identify this map by marking it, "Dallas, Tex., March
26, 1964, Exhibit No. 5108, deposition of H. M. Kriss." I am signing
my name to it, and I will ask you for the purposes of identification
so that the record will show that we are both talking about the same
document, to put your name right there. Now, I would like you to look
over there at the mockup. And on the mockup, determine where you were.
Mr. KRISS. That is Main Street--I was right here [indicating].
Mr. HUBERT. Now, let's see if we can find that on the map and mark it.
It would be right here, wouldn't it?
Mr. KRISS. No; right over here [indicating]. Wouldn't it? No, here is
the--wait a minute. Wait a minute.