Mr. ARNETT. Well----

Mr. GRIFFIN. Or one blurred one?

Mr. ARNETT. I don't know what you call a big one. It's about like my

little finger, end of it [indicating].

Mr. GRIFFIN. Can you tell what sort of shape it is?

Mr. ARNETT. Yes, sir [indicating].

Mr. GRIFFIN. Does it look like a triangle or an arrow?

Mr. ARNETT. It looks like it goes up to a point and comes down to a

point and goes straight across the bottom [indicating].

Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me state for the record that is pretty good for a man

born in 1911. This thing that I am holding up is a red arrow which

appears on the back of a Dictaphone belt holder, and this arrow, the

stem part of the arrow is not more than a quarter of an inch long. The

pointed part of the arrow is unquestionably the most prominent part of

it.

I am going to ask you to hold it up and I am going to stand back

here and I will tell you that I have got my glasses on, but I am not

corrected at 20-20 vision. If I didn't know how that came up I would

have some difficulty telling what that is [indicating].

Mr. ARNETT. Is that right?

Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes; I think that's pretty good. So you could see this

man's green patch on his----

Mr. ARNETT. That's right. He was a patrolman.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Well now, did you ever have occasion to look up that ramp?

How many times did you have occasion to look up that ramp?

Mr. ARNETT. Well, it's like I say, I don't remember just turning around

and, you know, just looking up the ramp, but maybe walking into this

place to get into position or something or other, I was facing that way.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Sort of looking around generally up there; I mean as you

walked around in this area we have marked "A," did you from time to

time glance up in this general direction?

Mr. ARNETT. From where you marked "A," I couldn't see from there. You

are talking about this "A" here [indicating]?

Mr. GRIFFIN. No; I am talking about this "A" here at the bottom of the

ramp [indicating].

Mr. ARNETT. Oh, yes. I could from there.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you glance up from time to time?

Mr. ARNETT. I won't say I did, because I don't remember whether I did

or didn't. More than likely I did.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now; did you glance back at the TV cameras from time to

time?

Mr. ARNETT. Well, I would say I did; yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, after this second car moved out, did you have

occasion to glance over at the TV cameras at any time, toward the TV

cameras at any time?

Mr. ARNETT. Well, I would say, just right offhand, I would say I looked

around, but as far as just watching the TV cameras, I didn't.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, did you observe what any other officers were doing in

your area on that side of the ramp?

Mr. ARNETT. There was a man to the side of me, to my right, that was in

civilian clothes, and was a news reporter that had a microphone in his

hand.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Was he to your right or was he in front of you?

Mr. ARNETT. He was to my right.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Directly to your right. Now, where was Officer Harrison?

Mr. ARNETT. Right in front of me and a little to my left. In other

words, we were standing facing this direction and Officer Harrison

was more or less like this. I was looking over his right shoulder

[indicating].

Mr. GRIFFIN. You were looking over his right shoulder. Were you pressed

right up against him at the time Lee Oswald moved out?

Mr. ARNETT. I wouldn't say I was pressed against him. I was

directly--you know, next to him.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Was there anybody behind you?

Mr. ARNETT. Not that I know of.

Mr. GRIFFIN. I am going to state for the record that we have here a

Mr. Robert Davis with the attorney general's office with the State of

Texas, who has been sitting in on these hearings, and he just walked

into the room, and I am holding up, at about the same distance that

I held this thing from Captain Arnett--is that right, Captain Arnett

[indicating]?

Mr. ARNETT. That's right.

Mr. GRIFFIN. I am holding this about the same distance from Mr. Davis,

and I am asking him if he sees any colored items on the back of this

Dictaphone card that I am holding up [indicating]?

Mr. DAVIS. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. How many colored things do you see?

Mr. DAVIS. Six.

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