Mr. HUBERT. I can show you a calendar of----

Lieutenant REVILL. I can give you the date.

Mr. HUBERT. Can you?

Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Would you do so?

Lieutenant REVILL. Would have been on December the 1st in the county

jail. Present at that interview was Lieutenant Cornwall, a jailer,

whose name I do not recall. This man was present at both interviews, at

Mr. Decker's request.

Mr. HUBERT. The jailer was?

Lieutenant REVILL. The jailer; yes, sir. And this proposed interview

took place just outside the cell where Ruby was confined in, I believe

it would be the chief jailer's office.

Mr. HUBERT. Will you tell us about what happened?

Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, sir; Lieutenant Cornwall and I, after

interviewing all these people, trying to determine how Ruby got into

the basement, decided that the best thing was to talk to Ruby himself,

so, we finally got clearance to go talk to him and we did, and----

Mr. HUBERT. Now, by that time you had already heard from the press that

he had said that he had come through the Main Street ramp?

Lieutenant REVILL. Something to the effect that, "You may not believe

me, but I walked down the ramp." Anyway at the interview, Ruby was

there with Cornwall and I, and this unknown jailer, and he refused

to disclose how he gained access into the basement stating that this

is a part of his defense, so, we then had Sheriff Decker call Tom

Howard, who was representing Ruby at that time as a legal counsel.

Mr. Howard came to the jail and was present throughout the interview.

Ruby was very precise as to his activities on Friday, the date of the

shooting of President Kennedy. He refused to discuss with us any of

his activities on Saturday, November 23 or November 24, the day of the

shooting.

Mr. HUBERT. Did he give you any reason?

Lieutenant REVILL. This was part of his defense, so he stated. The

interview approximately took 45 minutes. It was a lot of----

Mr. HUBERT. Did you ask him specifically whether the story in the

press, that he had come through the Main Street entrance, was correct

or not correct?

Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, sir; I asked him this, and he refused to

discuss it. He said that he did not want to get anyone in trouble.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you pursue that?

Lieutenant REVILL. Yes; I did. I was assigned to this committee to find

out what happened and I really wasn't concerned who we got in trouble,

because if someone was wrong, then they suffer the consequences and I

asked him about officers by name who were present in the basement, if

they had seen him or talked to him, and he wouldn't discuss it. Knowing

Jack Ruby, Jack Ruby is the type of individual that can't be anywhere

for a period of time without talking to someone.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you mention to him specifically Roy Vaughn's name?

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