I don't know the gentleman only there by telephone conversation.

Mr. HUBERT. You, yourself, talked to him and told him what you had

heard?

Mr. DECKER. I told him what I had heard and talked to him about the

transfer, and I even went so far as to advise McCoy to call in a pair

of my supervisory personnel to stand by my office, that should they

decide to transfer this man, they would be available and we would have

the other men moved in there to make it secure--to have the security.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you make any suggestions that he be moved earlier than

the time that had been announced?

Mr. DECKER. I did. I suggested to get the man on down to the lower end

of Main Street.

Mr. HUBERT. Before the time announced?

Mr. DECKER. Yes; then.

Mr. HUBERT. Who did you say that to--Frazier?

Mr. DECKER. I'm sure I told it to Frazier and I'm sure there was one

or somebody in Fritz' office--I don't remember whether it was Baker or

Wells, I talked to one of those persons.

Mr. HUBERT. That was when you got this call from the FBI?

Mr. DECKER. When I got this call from my night sergeant.

Mr. HUBERT. It was still nighttime?

Mr. DECKER. Yes--it was in the morning--12:30 in the morning.

Mr. HUBERT. It was your suggestion that he should be moved immediately?

Mr. DECKER. I felt that he should be moved--yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. What reply did you get?

Mr. DECKER. They stated that they were going to ask him if he wouldn't

feel better to talk to his superiors and see what could be done.

He called me back shortly and stated that he had had no success

in contacting them, and I think that was about the extent of our

conversation. I kept my men, my supervisory personnel standing by in

the event that they did change their timing or anything and notified

us. I asked him if he had any success to call me and that we would make

arrangements to take care of the prisoner either way, and I meant by

that that we would transfer him or whatever was necessary to be done.

Mr. HUBERT. At this point let me ask you: When a man is transferred to

your custody, may he thereafter be interviewed by the city police?

Mr. DECKER. Anybody who wishes to.

Mr. HUBERT. So that Captain Fritz and others could have continued their

investigation?

Mr. DECKER. It's not customary for them to bring a prisoner down until

they have finished their investigation in the city.

Mr. HUBERT. I understand that, but the transfer to you would not have

cut off their opportunity to investigate?

Mr. DECKER. Oh, no--no--it wouldn't have cut it off to anybody--any law

enforcing agency. Just the same as Ruby, Ruby has been interviewed in

my jail by city police, the FBI agents, and incidentally may I ask you

a question?

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