XVII

VINCENT: Forsooth, uncle, as for these outward goods, you have

said enough. No man can be sure what strength he shall have or how

faint and feeble he may find himself when he shall come to the

point, and therefore I can make no warranty of myself, seeing that

St. Peter so suddenly fainted at a woman's word and so cowardly

forsook his master, for whom he had so boldly fought within so few

hours before, and by that fall in forsaking well perceived that he

had been too rash in his promise and was well worthy to take a fall

for putting so full trust in himself. Yet in good faith methinketh

now (and God will, I trust, help me to keep this thought still)

that if the Turk should take all that I have, unto my very shirt,

unless I would forsake my faith, and should offer it all to me

again with five times as much if I would fall into his sect, I

would not once stick at it--rather to forsake it every whit, than

to forsake any point of Christ's holy faith.

But surely, good uncle, when I bethink me further on the grief and

the pain that may turn unto my flesh, here find I the fear that

forceth my heart to tremble.

ANTHONY: Neither have I cause to marvel at that, nor have you,

cousin, cause to be dismayed for it. The great horror and fear that

our Saviour had in his own flesh, against his painful passion,

maketh me little to marvel. And I may well make you take this

comfort, too, that for no such manner of grudging felt in your

sensual parts, the flesh shrinking in the meditation of pain and

death, your reason shall give over, but resist it and manly master

it. And though you would fain fly from the painful death and be

loth to come to it, yet may the meditation of our Saviour's great

grievous agony move you. And he himself shall, if you so desire

him, not fail to work with you therein, and to get and give you the

grace to submit and conform your will unto his, as he did his unto

his Father. And thereupon shall you be so comforted with the secret

inward inspiration of his Holy Spirit, as he was with the personal

presence of that angel who after his agony came and comforted him.

And so shall you as his true disciple follow him, and with good

will, without grudge, do as he did, and take your cross of pain and

suffering upon your back and die for the truth with him, and

thereby reign with him crowned in eternal glory.

And this I say to give you warning of the truth, to the intent that

when a man feeleth such a horror of death in his heart, he should

not thereby stand in outrageous fear that he were falling. For many

such a man standeth, for all that fear, full fast, and finally

better abideth the brunt, when God is so good unto him as to bring

him to it and encourage him therein, than doth some other man who

in the beginning feeleth no fear at all. And yet may he never be

brought to the brunt, and most often so it is. For God, having many

mansions, and all wonderful wealthful, in his Father's house,

exalteth not every good man up to the glory of a martyr. But

foreseeing their infirmity, that though they be of good will before

and peradventure of right good courage too, they would yet play St.

Peter if they were brought to the point, and thereby bring their

souls into the peril of eternal damnation, he provideth otherwise

for them before they come there. And he findeth a way that men

shall not have the mind to lay any hands upon them, as he found for

his disciples when he himself was willingly taken. Or else, if they

set hands on them, he findeth a way that they shall have no power

to hold them, as he found for St. John the Evangelist, who let his

sheet fall from him, upon which they caught hold, and so fled

himself naked away and escaped from them. Or, though they hold them

and bring them to prison too, yet God sometimes delivereth them

hence, as he did St. Peter. And sometimes he taketh them to him out

of the prison into heaven, and suffereth them not to come to their

torment at all, as he hath done by many a good holy man. And some

he suffereth to be brought into the torments and yet suffereth them

not to die in them, but to live many years afterward and die their

natural death, as he did by St. John the Evangelist and by many

another more, as we may well see both by sundry stories and in the

epistles of St. Ciprian also. And therefore, which way God will

take with us, we cannot tell.

But surely, if we be true Christian men, this can we well tell:

that without any bold warranty of ourselves or foolish trust in our

own strength, we are bound upon pain of damnation not to be of the

contrary mind but what we will with his help, however loth we feel

in our flesh thereto, rather than forsake him or his faith before

the world--which if we do, he hath promised to forsake us before

his Father and all his holy company of heaven--rather, I say, than

we would do so, we would with his help endure and sustain for his

sake all the tormentry that the devil with all his faithless

tormentors in this world would devise. And then, if we be of this

mind, and submit our will unto his, and call and pray for his

grace, we can tell well enough that he will never suffer them to

put more upon us than his grace will make us able to bear, but will

also with their temptation provide for us a sure way. For "God is

faithful," saith St. Paul, "who suffereth you not to be tempted

above what you can bear, but giveth also with the temptation a way

out." For either, as I said, he will keep us out of their hands,

though he before suffered us to be afraid of them to prove our

faith (that we may have, by the examination of our mind, some

comfort in hope of his grace and some fear of our own frailty to

drive us to call for grace), or else, if we call into their hands,

provided that we fall not from the trust of him nor cease to call

for his help, his truth shall, as the prophet saith, so compass us

about with a shield that we shall not need to fear this incursion

of this midday devil. For these Turks his tormentors, who shall

enter this land and persecute us, shall either not have the power

to touch our bodies at all, or else the short pain that they shall

put into our bodies shall turn us to eternal profit both in our

souls and in our bodies too. And therefore, cousin, to begin with,

let us be of good comfort. For we are by our faith very sure that

holy scripture is the very word of God, and that the word of God

cannot but be true. And we see by the mouth of his holy prophet and

by the mouth of his blessed apostle also that God hath made us

faithful promise that he will not suffer us to be tempted above our

power, but will both provide a way out for us and also compass us

round about with his shield and defend us that we shall have no

cause to fear this midday devil with all his persecution. We cannot

therefore but be very sure (unless we are very shamefully cowardous

of heart and out of measure faint in faith toward God, and in love

less than luke-warm or waxed even key-cold) we may be very sure, I

say, either that God will not suffer the Turks to invade this land;

or that, if they do, God shall provide such resistance that they

shall not prevail; or that, if they prevail, yet if we take the way

that I have told you we shall by their persecution take little harm

or rather none harm at all, but that which shall seem harm indeed

be to us no harm at all but good. For if God make us and keep us

good men, as he hath promised to do if we pray well therefore, then

saith holy scripture, "Unto good folk all things turn them to good."

And therefore, cousin, since God knoweth what shall happen and not

we, let us in the meanwhile with a good hope in the help of God's

grace have a good purpose of standing sure by his holy faith

against all persecutions. And if we should hereafter, either for

fear or pain or for lack of his grace lost in our own default,

mishap to decline from his good purpose--which our Lord forbid--yet

we would have won the well-spent time beforehand, to the

diminishment of our pain, and God would also be much the more

likely to lift us up after our fall and give us his grace again.

Howbeit, if this persecution come, we are, by this meditation and

well-continued intent and purpose beforehand, the better

strengthened and confirmed, and much more likely to stand indeed.

And if it so fortune, as with God's grace at men's good prayers and

amendment of our evil lives it may well fortune, that the Turks

shall either be well withstood and vanquished or peradventure not

invade us at all, then shall we, perdy, by this good purpose get

ourselves of God a very good cheap thank!

And on the other hand, while we now think on it--and not to think

on it, in so great likelihood of it, I suppose no wise man can--if

we should for the fear of worldly loss or bodily pain, framed in

our own minds, think that we would give over and to save our goods

and lives forsake our Saviour by denial of his faith, then whether

the Turks come or come not, we are meanwhile gone from God. And

then if they come not indeed, or come and are driven to flight,

what a shame should that be to us, before the face of God, in so

shameful cowardly wise to forsake him for fear of that pain that we

never felt or that never was befalling us!

VINCENT: By my troth, uncle, I thank you. Methinketh that though

you never said more in the matter, yet have you, even with this

that you have spoken here already of the fear of bodily pain in

this persecution, marvellously comforted mine heart.

ANTHONY: I am glad, cousin, if your heart have taken comfort

thereby. But if you so have, give God the thanks and not me, for

that work is his and not mine. For neither am I able to say any

good thing except by him, nor can all the good words in the

world--no, not the holy words of God himself, and spoken also with

his own holy mouth--profit a man with the sound entering at his

ear, unless the Spirit of God also inwardly work in his soul. But

that is his goodness ever ready to do, unless there be hindrance

through the untowardness of our own froward will.

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