There is a clear reason for this, which is in itself at once a

justification for the special treatment which we propose for these

trades, and a means of marking them off more or less definitely from

the ordinary trades. In the case of any great staple trade in this

country, if the rate of wages became unnaturally low compared to other

industries, and the workers could not raise it by any pressure on

their part, the new generation at any rate would exercise a preference

for better pay and more attractive forms of industry. The gradual

correction of depressed conditions over large periods of time is thus

possible. But in these sweated industries there is no new generation

to come to the rescue. They are recruited from a class rather than

from a section of the community. The widow, the women folk of the

poorest type of labourer, the broken, the weak, the struggling, the

diseased--those are the people who largely depend upon these trades,

and they have not the same mobility of choice, exerted, tardily though

it be, by a new generation, but which is undoubtedly operative upon

the great staple trades of the country. That is an explanation which

accounts for the same evils being reproduced under similar conditions

in different countries, separated widely from one another and marked

by great differences of general conditions.

I ask the House to regard these industries as sick and diseased

industries. I ask Parliament to deal with them exactly in the same

mood and temper as we should deal with sick people. It would be cruel

to prescribe the same law for the sick as for the sound. It would be

absurd to apply to the healthy the restrictions required for the sick.

Further, these sweated trades are not inanimate abstractions. They are

living, almost sentient, things. Let the House think of these sweated

trades as patients in a hospital ward. Each case must be studied and

treated entirely by itself. No general rule can be applied. There is

no regulation dose which will cure them all. You cannot effect quicker

cures by giving larger doses. Different medicines, different diets,

different operations are required for each; and consideration,

encouragement, nursing, personal effort are necessary for all. Great

flexibility and variety of procedure, and a wide discretionary power,

entrusted to earnest and competent people, must characterise any

attempt to legislate on this subject.

The central principle of this Bill is the establishment of Trade

Boards, which will be charged with the duty of fixing a minimum wage.

I am very anxious to give these Trade Boards the utmost possible

substance and recognition. They will be formed on the principle of

equality of representation for employers and employed, with a skilled

official chairman or nucleus. That is the principle I have adopted in

the new Arbitration Court recently established. That is the principle

which will govern the system of Labour Exchanges, shortly to be

introduced, and other measures which may come to be associated with

Labour Exchanges, and I think it is an excellent principle.

At the same time, do not let us suppose that these Trade Boards will,

in the first instance, be very strong or representative bodies. They

are to be formed in trades mainly worked by women, where no

organisation has ever yet taken root, where there are as yet no means

of finding and focusing an effective trade opinion. Where possible,

they will be partly elective; in many cases they will, I expect, have

to begin by being almost entirely nominated. In some cases it will be

upon the official members alone that the main burden will fall. I

could not ask the House to confer upon bodies of this nebulous

character, not representative, not elective in any democratic sense,

responsible not to constituents, nor to a public department, nor to

Parliament itself in any way, the absolute and final power of

enforcing by the whole apparatus of the law any decision, whether wise

or foolish, upon wage questions to which they may come by the

narrowest majority. The work which we entrust to them wholly and

finally is sufficiently difficult and important. We direct them by

this Bill to prescribe minimum rates of wages. They are to find the

minimum rate. For that purpose they are as well qualified as any body

that we could devise. In this sphere their jurisdiction will be

complete. The Board of Trade will not retry the question of what is

the right minimum rate. Another and quite different question will be

decided by the Board of Trade. They will decide whether the minimum

rate which has been prescribed by the Trade Board commands sufficient

support in the trade to make its enforcement by inspection and

prosecution likely to be effective.

That is the division between the responsibility which the Trade Boards

will have and the responsibility which we shall reserve to ourselves.

I shall be quite ready in Committee to express that intention, which

is in the Bill, in a simpler and stronger manner, and to make the

function of the Board of Trade a positive and not a negative one, so

that when the Trade Board has fixed the minimum rate of wages it

shall, after an interval of six months, acquire the force of law, and

shall be enforced by compulsory powers, unless in the meanwhile the

Board of Trade decides or rules otherwise. For my part, I gladly give

an assurance that it is our intention to put the compulsory provisions

of this Bill into full effect upon at least one of the trades in the

schedule, at as early a date as possible, in order to bring about the

fulfilment of a much-needed and long-overdue experiment.

Now I come to the probationary period, and I know that there are a

great many who have stated that it is mere waste of time. I, on the

contrary, have been led to the opinion that it is vital to any

practical or effective policy against sweating. It is no use to

attempt, in trades as complex and obscure as these with which we are

dealing, to substitute outside authority for trade opinion. The only

hope lies in the judicious combination of the two, each acting and

reacting upon the other. A mere increase of the penal provisions and

inspection would be a poor compensation for the active support of a

powerful section within the trade itself. It is upon the probationary

period that we rely to enable us to rally to the Trade Board and to

its minimum wage the best employers in the trade. In most instances

the best employers in the trade are already paying wages equal or

superior to the probable minimum which the Trade Board will establish.

The inquiries which I have set on foot in the various trades scheduled

have brought to me most satisfactory assurances from nearly all the

employers to whom my investigators have addressed themselves.

For the enforcement of this Act, and for the prevention of evasion and

collusion, I rely upon the factory inspectors, who will report

anything that has come to their notice on their rounds and who will

make themselves a channel for complaints. I rely still more upon the

special peripatetic inspectors and investigators who will be appointed

under the Act by the Board of Trade, who will have to conduct

prosecutions under the Act, and who will devote all their time to the

purposes of the Act. These officers will incidentally clothe the Trade

Boards with real authority, once the rate has been enforced, in that

they will be responsible to the Trade Board, and not to some powerful

Department of Government external to the Trade Board itself. I rely

further upon the support of the members of the Trade Boards

themselves, who will act as watch-dogs and propagandists. I rely upon

the driving power of publicity and of public opinion. But most of all

I put my faith in the practical effect of a powerful band of

employers, perhaps a majority, who, whether from high motives or

self-interest, or from a combination of the two--they are not

necessarily incompatible ideas--will form a vigilant and instructed

police, knowing every turn and twist of the trade, and who will labour

constantly to protect themselves from being undercut by the illegal

competition of unscrupulous rivals.

An investigator in the East End of London writes:

"The people who can check evasion are the large firms. Their

travellers form a magnificent body of inspectors, who ought to see

that the Act is enforced. The checking of evasion will have to be

carried out, not so much by visiting workshops and home-workers as by

hearing where cheap, low-class goods are coming into the market, and

tracing the goods back to the contractors who made them."

There are solid reasons on which we on this side of the House who are

Free Traders rely with confidence, when we associate ourselves with

this class of legislation. First of all, we must not imagine that this

is the only European country which has taken steps to deal with

sweating. The first exhibition of sweated products was held in Berlin,

and it was from that exhibition that the idea was obtained of holding

that most valuable series of exhibitions throughout this country

which created the driving power which renders this Bill possible. I am

advised that German legislation on some of these questions has even

anticipated us. In other countries legislation is pending on

principles not dissimilar from those which we advocate. In Bavaria and

Baden the latest reports are to the effect that the official

Government Reports of Inquiries recommend almost the same and in some

cases stronger provisions than those to which we now ask the assent of

the House of Commons. This may be said in a different form of Austria.

All this movement which is going on throughout Europe, and which is so

pregnant with good, will be powerfully stimulated by our action in

this country, and that stimulus will not only facilitate our work by

removing the argument which causes hon. gentlemen opposite anxiety,

but it will also, I think, redound to the credit of this country that

it took a leading and prominent position in what is a noble and

benignant work.

I was delighted to hear the Leader of the Opposition say, in a concise

and cogent sentence, that he could easily conceive many sweated trades

in which the wages of the workers could be substantially raised

without any other change except a diminution of price. Sir, the wages

of a sweated worker bear no accurate relation to the ultimate price.

Sometimes they vary in the same places for the same work done at the

same time. And sometimes the worst sweating forms a part of the

production of articles of luxury sold at the very highest price. We

believe further, however, that decent conditions make for industrial

efficiency and increase rather than diminish competitive power.

"General low wages," said Mill, "never caused any country to undersell

its rivals; nor did general high wages ever hinder it." The employers

who now pay the best wages in these sweated trades maintain themselves

not only against the comparatively small element of foreign

competition in these trades, but against what is a far more formidable

competition for this purpose--the competition of those employers who

habitually undercut them by the worst processes of sweating. I cannot

believe that the process of raising the degenerate and parasitical

portion of these trades up to the level of the most efficient branches

of the trade, if it is conducted by those conversant with the

conditions of the trade and interested in it, will necessarily result

in an increase of the price of the ultimate product. It may, even as

the right hon. gentleman has said, sensibly diminish it through better

methods.

Sir, it is on these grounds, and within these limits, that I ask for a

Second Reading for this Bill.

The principles and objects are scarcely disputed here. Let us go into

Committee and set to work upon the details, actuated by a

single-minded desire to produce a practical result. It is by the

evidences of successful experiment that, more than any other way, we

shall forward and extend the area of our operations; and in passing

this Bill the House will not only deal manfully with a grave and

piteous social evil, but it will also take another step along that

path of social organisation into which we have boldly entered, and

upon which the Parliaments of this generation, whatever their

complexion, will have to march.

FOOTNOTES:

[14] Otherwise called "The Trade Boards Bill."

LABOUR EXCHANGES AND UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE

HOUSE OF COMMONS, _May 19, 1909_

The functions of Government in relation to industrial life may be

divided into three categories--discipline, organisation, and relief.

The control and regulation of industrial conditions by penal and

disciplinary powers belong to the Home Office, the relieving and

curative processes are entrusted to the Local Government Board, and

the organisation of industry falls to the province of the Board of

Trade. The proposals which I now submit to the House are concerned

only with organisation; they can be judged only in relation to that

section of the subject; they do not pretend to stretch beyond it, or

to include other not less important aspects; and I ask that they shall

not be impugned, because, in dealing with the evils which properly

fall within that sphere, they do not extend to other evils that lie

without it.

I ask permission to introduce a Bill for the establishment of a

national system of Labour Exchanges. There is high authority for this

proposal. The Majority and Minority representatives of the Poor Law

Commission, differing in so much else, are agreed unanimously in its

support. "In the forefront of our proposals," says the Majority

Report, "we place Labour Exchanges." "This National Labour Exchange,"

says the Minority Report, "though in itself no adequate remedy, is the

foundation of all our proposals. It is, in our view, an indispensable

condition of any real reform." The National Conference of Trade Union

Delegates, convened by the Parliamentary Committee of the Trade Union

Congress, of March 19, 1909, resolved unanimously: "That this

Conference of Trade Union delegates, representing 1,400,000 members,

approves of the establishment of Labour Exchanges on a national basis,

under the control of the Board of Trade, provided that the managing

board contains at least an equal proportion of employers and

representatives of Trade Unions." The Central Unemployed Body for

London, by a Resolution in June 1908, declared in favour of a national

system of Labour Exchanges. Economists as divergent in opinion as

Professor Ashley, of Birmingham, and Professor Chapman, of Manchester,

have all approved and urged the project publicly in the strongest

terms. Several of the principal members of the late Government have,

either in evidence before the Poor Law Commission or in public

speeches, expressed themselves in favour of Labour Exchanges, and the

Report of the delegates of the Labour Party to Germany strongly

approves of the system which they found there, namely: "the

co-ordination and systematic management of Public Labour Exchanges."

The British authorities which I have mentioned are reinforced by the

example of many foreign countries; and as early as 1904 the Board of

Trade, in its reports on agencies and methods of dealing with

unemployed in foreign countries, drew attention to the very

considerable extension of Labour Exchanges in the last three years in

Germany, Austria, Switzerland, France, and Belgium. Since then Norway

has been added to the list. Mr. W. Bliss, in the Bulletin of the

_Washington Bureau of Labour_ for May, 1908, in the course of a survey

of the whole field of unemployment and of possible remedies, says,

"The most important agencies for providing work for the unemployed

who are employable, but have no prospect of returning to their former

positions, are the public employment bureaux. These are largely

developed in a number of European countries, and especially in

Germany, where they have grown rapidly in the last twenty years, both

in numbers and in efficiency." So that the House will see that we have

behind us this afternoon not only a practical consensus of opinion

among authorities at home in favour of the policy, but the spectacle

of its successful practice on an extensive scale, and over a period of

years, in the greatest industrial community of the Continent, and its

extension in various degrees to many other countries.

I do not, therefore, propose to occupy the time of the House with any

elaborate justification of the merits of the Bill. Those we may

discuss at our leisure later. I confine myself only to a few general

observations. Two main defects in modern industrial conditions which

were emphasised by the Royal Commission were the lack of mobility of

labour and lack of information. With both of these defects the

National System of Labour Exchanges is calculated to deal. Modern

industry has become national. Fresh means of transport knit the

country into one, as it was never knit before. Labour alone in its

search for markets has not profited; the antiquated, wasteful, and

demoralising method of personal application--that is to say, the

hawking of labour--persists. Labour Exchanges will give labour for the

first time a modernised market. Labour Exchanges, in the second place,

will increase and will organise the mobility of labour. But let me

point out that to increase the _mobility_ of labour is not necessarily

to increase the _movement_ of labour. Labour Exchanges will not

increase the movement of labour; they will only render that movement,

when it has become necessary, more easy, more smooth, more painless,

and less wasteful.

Labour Exchanges do not pretend to any large extent to create new

employment. Their main function will be to organise the existing

employment, and by organising the existing employment to reduce the

friction and wastage, resulting from changes in employment and the

movement of workers, to a minimum. By so doing they will necessarily

raise the general economic standard of our industrial life.

So far as the second defect, "lack of information," is concerned, a

system of Labour Exchanges promises to be of the highest value. In

proportion as they are used, they will give absolutely contemporary

information upon the tendencies of the demand for labour, both in

quality and in quantity, as between one trade and another, as between

one season and another, as between one cycle and another, and as

between one part of the country and another. They will tell the worker

where to go for employment. They will tell him, what is scarcely less

important, where it is useless to go in search of employment. Properly

co-ordinated and connected with the employment bureaux of the various

education authorities, which are now coming into existence in Scotland

and in England, they will afford an increasing means of guiding the

new generation into suitable, promising, and permanent employment, and

will divert them from overstocked or declining industries. They will

put an end to that portion of unemployment that is merely local or

accidental in character. They are the only means of grappling with the

evils of casual employment, with all its demoralising consequences.

They are capable of aiding the process of dovetailing one seasonal

trade into another. A system of Labour Exchanges, dispensing with the

need for wandering in search of work, will make it possible, for the

first time, to deal stringently with vagrancy. And, lastly, Labour

Exchanges are indispensable to any system of Unemployment Insurance,

as indeed to any other type of honourable assistance to the

unemployed, since they alone can provide an adequate test of the

desire for work and of the reality of unemployment. The authority of

both Reports of the Poor Law Commission may be cited upon these

points; and I shall present this Bill to the House as an important

piece of social and industrial machinery, the need for which has long

been apparent, and the want of which has been widely and painfully

felt.

I said that in the creation of such a system we may profit by the

example of Germany; we may do more, we may improve upon the example of

Germany. The German Exchanges, though co-ordinated and encouraged to

some extent by State and Imperial Governments, are mainly municipal in

their scope. Starting here with practically a clear field and with

the advantage of the experiment and the experience of other lands to

guide us, we may begin upon a higher level and upon a larger scale.

There is reason to believe that the utility of a system like Labour

Exchanges, like utility of any other market, increases in proportion

to its range and scope. We therefore propose, as a first principle,

that our system shall be uniform and national in its character; and

here, again, we are supported both by the Minority and by the Majority

Reports of the Royal Commission.

A Departmental Committee at the Board of Trade has, during the last

six months, been working out the scheme in close detail. The whole

country will be divided into ten or twelve principal divisions, each

with a Divisional Clearing House, and each under a Divisional Chief,

all co-ordinated with the National Clearing House in London.

Distributed among these 10 Divisions in towns of, let us say, 100,000

or upwards will be between 30 and 40 First-class Labour Exchanges; in

towns of 50,000 to 100,000 between 40 and 50 Second-class Exchanges;

and about 150 minor offices, consisting of Third-class Exchanges,

Sub-Offices, and Waiting-rooms, which last will be specially used in

connection with Dock decasualisation.

The control and direction of the whole system will be under the Board

of Trade. But in order to secure absolute impartiality as between the

interests of capital and labour, Joint Advisory Committees, to contain

in equal numbers representatives of employers and work-people, will be

established in the principal centres. Thus we shall apply to the local

management of Labour Exchanges the same principle of parity of

representation between workmen and employers under impartial guidance

and chairmanship, that we have adopted in the administration of the

Trade Boards Bill, and that, _mutatis mutandis_, is the governing

feature of the Courts of Arbitration which have recently been set up.

If this Bill should obtain the assent of Parliament without undue

delay, I should hope to bring the system into simultaneous operation

over the whole country, so far as practicable, in the early months of

next year. Temporary premises will be procured in all cases in the

first instance; but a programme of building has been prepared, which

in ten years will by a gradual process enable in all the principal

centres these temporary premises to be replaced by permanent

buildings.

The expense of this system will no doubt be considerable. Its ordinary

working will not need a sum less than about L170,000 per year, and

during the period when the building is going on the expenditure will

rise to about L200,000 per year.

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