THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

MONDAY, December 6, 1790.

On which day, being the day appointed by adjournment of the two Houses

for the meeting of the present session, the following members appeared

and took their seats, to wit:

_From New Hampshire_--ABIEL FOSTER, NICHOLAS GILMAN, and SAMUEL

LIVERMORE.

_From Massachusetts_--FISHER AMES, BENJAMIN GOODHUE, and GEORGE

THATCHER.

_From Connecticut_--BENJAMIN HUNTINGTON, ROGER SHERMAN, and JONATHAN

STURGES.

_From New York_--EGBERT BENSON, WILLIAM FLOYD, JOHN LAWRENCE, and PETER

SYLVESTER.

_From New Jersey_--ELIAS BOUDINOT, LAMBERT CADWALADER, and JAMES

SCHUREMAN.

_From Pennsylvania_--GEORGE CLYMER, THO'S FITZSIMONS, FREDERICK AUGUSTUS

MUHLENBERG, PETER MUHLENBERG, and HENRY WYNKOOP.

_From Maryland_--JOSHUA SENEY.

_From Virginia_--JOHN BROWN, SAMUEL GRIFFIN, and JAMES MADISON, Junior.

_From North Carolina_--TIMOTHY BLOODWORTH and HUGH WILLIAMSON.

_From South Carolina_--WILLIAM SMITH.

_From Georgia_--ABRAHAM BALDWIN.

Which not forming a quorum of the whole number, the House adjourned

until to-morrow.

TUESDAY, December 7.

DANIEL HEISTER and THOMAS SCOTT, from Pennsylvania; RICHARD BLAND LEE,

from Virginia; and DANIEL HUGER, from South Carolina, appeared and took

their seats.

WILLIAM B. GILES, from Virginia, returned in the place of Theodorick

Bland, deceased, also appeared, produced his credentials, and took his

seat.

WEDNESDAY, December 8.

ELBRIDGE GERRY and JONATHAN GROUT, from Massachusetts; ANDREW MOORE and

ALEXANDER WHITE, from Virginia; and THOMAS TUDOR TUCKER, from South

Carolina, appeared and took their seats.

A message from the Senate informed the House that they are ready to meet

the members of this House in the Senate Chamber, to receive the usual

communication from the President of the United States.

Mr. SPEAKER, attended by the members of this House, then withdrew to the

Senate Chamber, for the purpose expressed in the above message.

And being returned, the SPEAKER laid before the House a copy of the

Speech, delivered by the PRESIDENT (which will be found in the

proceedings of the Senate),

Which being read, it was, on motion, committed to the consideration of a

Committee of the whole House to-morrow.

THURSDAY, December 9.

JAMES JACKSON and GEORGE MATHEWS, from Georgia, appeared and took their

seats.

_Address to the President._

On motion, the House resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole on

the Speech of the President of the United States, Mr. LIVERMORE in the

chair.

On motion of Mr. LAWRENCE, the committee agreed to a resolution, which

the committee rose and reported to the House, which was concurred with

as follows:

_Resolved_, that it is the opinion of this committee, that

an Address ought to be presented by the House to the

President of the United States, in answer to his Speech to

both Houses, with assurances that this House will, without

delay, proceed to take into consideration the various and

important matters recommended to their attention.

And Messrs. MADISON, AMES, and TUCKER, were appointed to prepare the

Address.

FRIDAY, December 10.

GEORGE PARTRIDGE, from Massachusetts; JONATHAN TRUMBULL and JEREMIAH

WADSWORTH, from Connecticut; THOMAS SINNICKSON, from New Jersey; and

WILLIAM SMITH, from Maryland, appeared and took their seats.

SATURDAY, December 11.

A translation of the Letter from the President of the Commonalty of

Paris, addressed to the Federal Legislature, was read as follows:

_Mr. President--Gentlemen:_

The news has reached our ears--FRANKLIN is no

more!--FRANKLIN, the citizen of the world!--All nations are

indebted to him for instruction in every branch of science.

They are all bound to participate in the grief occasioned

by this common loss. But the Assembly of the

Representatives of the Commonalty of our capital, thinking

it their duty, in addition to the general mourning, to pay

to his memory a further tribute of honor, have ordered, by

a public decree, that the virtues and talents of this great

philosopher should be perpetuated to distant ages, in a

public and solemn Eulogy--the first of the kind ever

bestowed by our nation on civic worth.

By order of the Assembly I transmit it to your hands; and,

with the most lively sensations of pleasure, embrace the

opportunity of paying due homage to a body of men, who not

only possess, but are justly entitled to enjoy the sweets

of Liberty.

May the approbation of your Assembly attend, as well the

present itself, as the fraternal and respectful sentiments

with which

I am, Mr. President--Gentlemen,

Your most obedient humble servant,

BENIERE,

_Doctor of the Sorbonne, Suppletory Member

of the National Assembly, and President

of the Commonalty of Paris._

To the PRESIDENT and CONGRESS _of the United States_.

The letter accompanied twenty-six copies of the Eulogium on Dr.

FRANKLIN, delivered by the Abbé Fauchet, pursuant to a decree of that

body.

Mr. BOUDINOT proposed that thirteen copies of the Eulogium be returned

to the President of the United States and the Senate; which was done.

Mr. SMITH (of South Carolina) observed, that it would be proper to

request the President of the United States to return an answer to the

President of the Commonalty of Paris, or that a Joint Committee of the

House and Senate should be appointed for the purpose. He was not

tenacious of any particular mode, but supposed it highly proper that

some notice should be taken of the polite attention shown the Government

by the President of the Commonalty of Paris. The business was specially

committed to the SPEAKER.

Agreeably to the order of the day, the House resolved itself into a

Committee of the Whole, to take into consideration the Address to the

President of the United States, in answer to his Speech to both Houses,

as reported yesterday. Mr. LIVERMORE in the chair.

The Address was read by the clerk, and then discussed by the committee

in paragraphs.

On reading the clause respecting the Western expedition against the

Indians,

Mr. JACKSON rose and observed, that he was as fully impressed with the

importance of an Indian war, and of extending the protection of

Government to our defenceless frontiers, as any man whatever, and had no

doubt of the necessity of the measures taken to chastise the banditti

on the Ohio; but as a Representative from the State of Georgia, he

should think himself inexcusable were he not to express his astonishment

that no notice is taken in the President's speech of the treaty with the

Creek Nation; a treaty which has spread alarm among the people of that

State--a treaty by which more than three millions of acres of land, the

property of the State of Georgia, guarantied to that State by the

Constitution of the United States, are ceded away without any

compensation. Mr. J. then adverted to several articles of the treaty,

which he said controverted the plainest principles of the constitution,

particularly those parts which secure to every citizen the rights of

property. He contrasted the present situation of the inhabitants of

Georgia, with what it was under the British Government, and said this

treaty placed them in a less eligible situation in respect to the

Indians.

It had been said, exclaimed he, that there are secret articles in the

treaty. Good God! at this early period are there to be secret articles

existing between the United States and any other nation under heaven!

Treaties by the constitution are to be considered the supreme law of the

land; but will Congress permit the laws of the United States, like those

of _Caligula_, to be placed where they cannot be read, and then punish

the people for not obeying them? The people will never submit to be

bound by secret articles.

[Here the Chairman interrupted Mr. JACKSON, by inquiring whether his

observations were intended as introductory to any motion on the

paragraph just read.]

Mr. J. replied, that it was his intention, at a future day, to introduce

a motion, that the President be requested to lay before this House the

treaty with the Creek Indians--not excepting the secret articles. He

then expatiated on the sufferings of the people of Georgia, and asked,

what must be their feelings when they reflect on the preparations made

to chastise the Wabash banditti, while the exertions of Congress have

not been called forth to their relief. The President sent three

Commissioners to Georgia (not one of whom was a citizen of that State).

They investigated the truth of her representations, and made a report

favorable to her claims, that the lands in dispute were fairly

purchased, and as fully obtained as the Confederation, or the nature of

the case would admit; but what has been the result? The treaty, so far

from recognizing the rights of Georgia, has sacrificed them--the report

of the Commissioners does not appear to have been attended to. On the

other hand, a savage of the Creeks has been invited and brought to the

seat of Government, and there loaded with favors, and caressed in the

most extraordinary manner.

He said, he would not at present engross any more of the time of the

House, only to give notice that, at a future opportunity, he should move

that the President of the United States be requested to lay before the

House for their consideration, the treaty with the Creek Indians--not

excepting the secret articles.

The paragraph respecting encouraging our own navigation being read,

Mr. SMITH (of South Carolina) observed, that he did not rise to propose

any alterations in the style of the Address; the language was such as

might be expected from the acknowledged abilities of the gentleman who

drafted it. The paragraph just read, he conceived, pledged the House to

take measures in respect to our own navigation, which may, in the issue,

prove injurious to the agricultural interests of the United States. At

this early period of the session, it appeared extremely improper for the

House to commit itself, especially as few, if any of the States, are

fully represented on the floor. He was afraid that the mode of

expression adopted in the Address would conduce to the exclusion of

foreign bottoms altogether. If the opinion of the committee should be

adopted by the House, he conceived it would be anticipating a decision

to the precluding future discussions of the subject. He foresaw that

this paragraph would be called up at some future period, and brought as

an argument against any different propositions that might be

offered--and thus the question be determined without any debate. He

thought the Address went into too minute a consideration of the several

parts of the Speech, and could have wished that more general terms had

been used. As a substitute for the paragraph under consideration, he

moved the following amendment in substance:

"We shall consider with attention the best means of

guarding against the embarrassments you mention, and will

take such measures as may remove every obstruction to the

prosperity of the commerce and agriculture of the United

States."

Mr. WILLIAMSON observed, that he saw no material difference between the

paragraph in the report and the amendment proposed. The mode of

expression adopted by the committee is in so general terms, that he

hoped it would have met the full approbation of every member of the

committee. The President proposes that the commerce of the United States

should be relieved from all injurious restrictions; nothing can be more

just and reasonable: and this is perfectly compatible with supporting

the agricultural interests of the country; the promotion of the former

involves that of the latter. He touched on the impositions of Great

Britain on our commerce, and observed, that reason and justice point out

the propriety of seeking redress. He, however, saw no opposition in the

two propositions; but as the obvious design in bringing forward the

substitute is to preclude such an inquiry as the exigency of the case

seems to require, he hoped it would not be adopted.

Mr. JACKSON observed that he had seconded the motion of the gentleman

from South Carolina, because he thought there was an obvious difference

in the two modes of expression. He then entered into a discussion of the

subject generally; and enlarged on the injurious consequences which

would result to the Southern States particularly by enhancing the duties

on foreign bottoms. He said, that the tonnage was at present so high as

to prevent foreigners from becoming our carriers; several instances of

this had been mentioned to him from good authority; and while the

American shipping was incompetent to the object, and he called on

gentlemen to show that it was, the exclusion of foreign ships from our

ports must be ruinous to South Carolina and Georgia; therefore, he hoped

the amendment would take place.

Mr. SHERMAN said, that the words in the report appeared to him less

exceptionable than those in the proposed amendment, even on the

principle supported by the gentleman in favor of the amendment. In the

report it was only said, we should consider what means, &c., but the

amendment declared we should take effectual measures. The words in the

report only binding us to consider--those in the amendment obliging us

to act. He thought the answer should be general, and was therefore

against the amendment.

Mr. SMITH (of South Carolina) observed, that the member last up had

confined his observation to the first words in the paragraph objected

to. If he will take the trouble of reading a little further, he will

see, that as the report stands, we give it as our opinion, that foreign

bottoms ought to be excluded, which would be severely felt by the States

of South Carolina and Georgia. We cannot wholly depend upon our own

vessels for the exportation of our produce; they are not sufficiently

numerous, nor will they be for many years; therefore, let us not at this

time, in a hasty manner, declare, that all articles exported shall be

carried in our own bottoms. To settle this important question, Mr. S.

thought that some time should be given to reflect, and a day fixed for

discussion; in the mean time, he thought it improper at this stage of

the session, that the opinion of the House should be given.

Mr. WILLIAMSON remarked, that the report did not say that we should have

no dependence on foreign bottoms; but that we should not depend

altogether upon them for the exportation of our produce. He had no idea

of excluding foreign bottoms. He was for making provision in case that

resource should fail.

Mr. JACKSON.--To show the importance of foreign shipping to the Southern

States, and the inadequacy of our own to transport their produce,

notwithstanding the low duty on American shipping, Mr. J. read a

statement of the tonnage duties paid by each, in the State of Georgia,

for the same period; the foreign tonnage amounted to eight thousand two

hundred and twenty-seven dollars, the American to six hundred and

twenty-nine dollars only. This being the fact, he inquired, what could

be done with the Southern produce, in case of the exclusion of foreign

bottoms? It must rot in the planter's hands. With respect to the

amendment's being as positive as the clause in the report, as had been

asserted, if this is the case he could see no objection to its being

adopted.

Mr. TUCKER said, he thought it improper that in an Address on this

occasion, the committee should go into a particular detail on every

subject; much less commit their judgment without a previous discussion.

The President may have maturely considered the subject during the

recess, but the committee cannot be supposed to be prepared for a

decision. The thinness of the House was a further objection, in his

opinion, to entering into a discussion of the question. He was not

pleased with the paragraph in the report, as it seemed to imply that

nothing had been done for the encouragement of our own navigation, the

reverse of which was fact. The posture of affairs in Europe suggested no

stronger reasons for giving further encouragement to our own navigation

than what was presented last session; the expediency of the measure is

not therefore apparent from any change of circumstances. Though he was

dissatisfied with the report, the amendment proposed fell short of his

wishes. It did not recognize what had been done for the encouragement of

American shipping. He would, therefore, propose a substitute by leave of

his colleague; which he did to the following purport: "The encouragement

of our own navigation has at all times appeared to us highly important,

and has employed a large share of our deliberations; we shall continue

to pay due attention to the subject, and consider by what means our

commerce and agriculture may be best promoted."

Mr. SMITH withdrew his motion to admit Mr. TUCKER's.

Mr. SENEY said, he could not conceive what ground of apprehension there

was in the Address, to lead gentlemen to suppose that the opinion of the

House would be committed by its adoption. He thought it couched in the

most general and unexceptionable terms. The amendment proposed he did

not think essentially variant from the paragraph under consideration;

but as the original was well expressed, he saw no reason for expunging

the clause; it contained an assertion, the truth of which he supposed

would not be controverted. As to the objection against going into a

detail of particulars, it was fully justified by precedent in the last

Address; the gentleman from South Carolina, he will recollect, was on

the committee who framed it; that Address more pointedly committed the

House than the present.

Mr. MADISON thought proper to take some notice of the objections that

had been made to the report. There were two modes of proceeding, which

might be adopted in drawing up the answer. The first method was

generally to declare, that the House would take into their serious

consideration the business recommended to their attention by the

President. And this, he observed, would be saying nothing, for, as by

the constitution it was the President's duty to communicate what matters

he judged of importance, so it was undoubtedly that of the House to pay

attention to the objects recommended. The second method was, to enter

into a detail of the different points mentioned in the President's

Address, and in such cases where there was no doubt as to the propriety

of measures being taken, assure him, in the answer, that measures would

be adopted; and if any thing doubtful occurred, merely promise that the

subject would be attended to. This rule the committee had followed in

drawing up their report, and as in the business mentioned in the

paragraph now before the House, they did not hesitate to believe some

measures necessary, they could see no impropriety in assuring him that

the best would be adopted. He added, that as it is clear that a war in

Europe would, by depriving us of foreign bottoms to export our produce,

injure this country; and as wars were doubtful, it was of the utmost

importance that the American navy be put on so respectable a footing as

not to need foreign aid for the exportation of her produce. He further

observed, that the answer returned last session was more full, and went

even to give the President assurances that the House would concur in

certain points proposed for their consideration in his address. He

concluded by remarking, that the amendment proposed was binding on the

House quite as much as the paragraph in the report.

Mr. SMITH (of South Carolina) said, it was true those who reported the

Address the last session, adverted to particulars; but were cautious in

their mode of expression, and adopted ambiguous language to avoid giving

an opinion. This would appear by recurring to that Address. The charge

of inconsistency on his part was therefore not well founded. Mr. S. read

some paragraphs of that Address, and observed that the House was not

pledged by the expressions then read; but in the present Address there

is an opinion given. It says that we ought not to depend on foreign

bottoms, because in case of war we may be deprived of that resource.

These declarations originated the objections, and gave rise to the

amendment. He proposed, therefore, as gentlemen appear to have no

objection to either mode of expression, that they would accommodate for

the sake of harmony and unanimity.

The question on the amendment was lost by a considerable majority.

The remainder of the Address was read, and agreed to by the committee.

The committee then rose and reported, and the House adopted it

unanimously.

A committee was then appointed to wait on the President of the United

States, to know at what time and place it would be convenient for him to

receive the Address.

The committee having waited on the President, Mr. MADISON reported, that

the President was pleased to return for answer, that, at two o'clock on

Monday next, he would receive the Address at his own house.

Messrs. WILLIAMSON and SHERMAN were added to the committee on the bill

to amend the act for promoting the progress of the useful arts.

Mr. MATHEWS was appointed on the committee on the militia bill, _vice_

Mr. JACKSON, who begged leave to decline serving, as his colleague had

been heretofore on that business, and must consequently be better

acquainted with the subject than he was.

MONDAY, December 13.

GEORGE LEONARD from Massachusetts; JOHN VINING, from Delaware; JOSIAH

PARKER, from Virginia; JOHN BAPTIST ASHE, from North Carolina; and

EDANUS BURKE, from South Carolina, appeared and took their seats.

_Eulogium on Dr. Franklin._

Mr. SMITH (of South Carolina) introduced the following motion, which was

read, and laid on the table:

The House being highly sensible of the polite attention of

the Commonalty of Paris, in directing a eulogium to the

illustrious memory of Dr. Benjamin Franklin, pronounced

before them, to be transmitted to the President and

Congress of the United States,

_Resolved_, That the Speaker communicate the sense of this

House in a letter addressed to the President and Commonalty

of Paris.

_Address to the President._

At two o'clock, the House, preceded by the Sergeant-at-Arms, waited on

the President of the United States, at his house where the SPEAKER

delivered the following Address in answer to his Speech to both Houses:

SIR: The Representatives of the people of the United States

have taken into consideration your Address to the two

Houses at the opening of the present session of Congress.

We share in the satisfaction inspired by the prospects

which continue to be so auspicious to our public affairs.

The blessings resulting from the smiles of Heaven on our

agriculture, the rise of public credit, with the further

advantages promised to it, and the fertility of resources

which are found so little burdensome to the community,

fully authorize our mutual congratulations on the present

occasion. Nor can we learn, without an additional

gratification, that the energy of the laws for providing

adequate revenues have been so honorably seconded by those

classes of citizens whose patriotism and probity were more

immediately concerned.

The success of the loan, opened in Holland under the

disadvantages of the present moment, is the more important,

as it not only denotes the confidence already placed in the

United States, but as the effects of a judicious

application of that aid will still further illustrate the

solidity of the foundation on which the public credit

rests.

The preparatory steps taken by the State of Virginia, in

concert with the District of Kentucky, towards the erection

of the latter into a distinct member of the Union, exhibit

a liberality mutually honorable to the parties. We shall

bestow on this important subject the favorable

consideration which it merits, and with the national policy

which ought to govern our decision, shall not fail to

mingle the affectionate sentiments which are awakened by

those expressed in behalf of our fellow-citizens of

Kentucky.

Whilst we regret the necessity which has produced offensive

hostilities against some of the Indian tribes north-west of

the Ohio, we sympathize too much with our Western brethren,

not to behold with approbation the watchfulness and vigor

which have been exerted by the Executive authority for

their protection; and which, we trust, will make the

aggressors sensible that it is their interest to merit, by

a peaceable behavior, the friendship and humanity which the

United States are always ready to extend to them.

The encouragement of our own navigation has at all times

appeared to us highly important. The point of view under

which you have recommended it to us is strongly enforced by

the actual state of things in Europe. It will be incumbent

on us to consider in what mode our commerce and agriculture

can be best relieved from an injurious dependence on the

navigation of other nations, which the frequency of their

wars renders a too precarious resource for conveying the

productions of our own country to market.

The present state of our trade in the Mediterranean seems

not less to demand, and will accordingly receive, the

attention which you have recommended.

Having already concurred in establishing a Judiciary

system, which opens the doors of justice to all without

distinction of persons, it will be our disposition to

incorporate every improvement which experience may suggest;

and we shall consider, in particular, how far the

uniformity which in other cases is found convenient in the

administration of the General Government through all the

States may be introduced into the forms and rules of

executing sentences issuing from the Federal Courts.

The proper regulation of the jurisdiction and functions

which may be exercised by Consuls of the United States in

foreign countries, with the provisions stipulated to those

of His Most Christian Majesty established here, are

subjects of too much consequence to the public interest and

honor not to partake of our deliberations.

We shall renew our attention to the establishment of the

militia and other subjects unfinished at the last session,

and shall proceed in them with all the despatch which the

magnitude of all, and the difficulty of some of them, will

allow.

Nothing has given us more satisfaction than to find that

the revenues heretofore established have proved adequate to

the purposes to which they were allotted. In extending the

provision to the residuary objects, it will be equally our

care to secure sufficiency and punctuality in the payments

due from the Treasury of the United States. We shall also

never lose sight of the policy of diminishing the public

debt, as fast as the increase of the public resources will

permit; and are particularly sensible of the many

considerations which press a resort to the auxiliary

resources furnished by the public lands.

In pursuing every branch of the weighty business of the

present session, it will be our constant study to direct

our deliberations to the public welfare. Whatever our

success may be, we can at least answer for the fervent love

of our country, which ought to animate our endeavors. In

your co-operation, we are sure of a resource which

fortifies our hopes that the fruits of the established

Government will justify the confidence which has been

placed in it, and recommend it more and more to the

affection and attachment of our fellow-citizens.

To the foregoing Address the PRESIDENT was pleased to reply:

GENTLEMEN: The sentiments expressed in your Address are

entitled to my particular acknowledgment. Having no object

but the good of our country, this testimony of approbation

and confidence, from its immediate representatives, must be

among my best rewards, as the support of your enlightened

patriotism has been among my greatest encouragements. Being

persuaded that you will continue to be actuated by the same

auspicious principle, I look forward to the happiest

consequences from your deliberations during the present

session.

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