I think a certainty that England and France must enter into the war, was

a great inducement to the ministry here to suspend the portion of public

payments, which they have lately suspended. By this operation, they

secure two hundred and three millions of livres, or eight millions and a

half of guineas, in the course of this and the ensuing year, which

will be sufficient for the campaign of the first year: for what is to,

follow, the States General must provide. The interesting question now

is, how the States General shall be composed? There are three opinions.

1. To place the three estates, Clergy, _Noblesse_, and Commons, in three

different Houses. The Clergy would, probably, like this, and some of

the Nobility; but it has no partisans out of those orders. 2. To put the

Clergy and _Noblesse_ into one House, and the Commons into another. The

_Noblesse_ will be generally for this. 3. To put the three orders

into one House, and make the Commons the majority of that House. This

re-unites the greatest number of partisans, and I suspect it is well

patronized in the ministry, who, I am persuaded, are proceeding

_bona fide_, to improve the constitution of their country. As to the

opposition which the English expect from the personal character of the

King, it proves they do not know what his personal character is. He is

the honestest man in his kingdom, and the most regular and economical.

He has no foible which will enlist him against the good of his people;

and whatever constitution will promote this, he will befriend. But he

will not befriend it obstinately: he has given repeated proofs of a

readiness to sacrifice his opinion to the wish of the nation. I believe

he will consider the opinion of the States General, as the best evidence

of what will please and profit the nation, and will conform to it. All

the characters at court may not be of this disposition, and from thence

may, possibly, arise representations, capable of leading the King

astray; but upon a full view of all circumstances, I have sanguine

hopes, that such a constitution will be established here, as will

regenerate the energy of the nation, cover its friends, and make its

enemies tremble. I am, with very great esteem, Dear Sir, your friend and

servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CLVIII.--TO JOHN JAY, September 3, 1788

TO JOHN JAY.

Paris, September 3, 1788.

Sir,

By Mrs. Barclay I had the honor of sending you letters of the 3rd, 10th,

and 11th of August; since which, I wrote you of the 20th of the same

month, by a casual conveyance, as is the present.

In my letter of the 20th, I informed you of the act of public bankruptcy

which had taken place here. The effect of this would have been a forced

loan of about one hundred and eighty millions of livres, in the course

of the present and ensuing year. But it did not yield a sufficient

immediate relief. The treasury became literally moneyless, and all

purposes depending on this mover came to a stand. The Archbishop was

hereupon removed, with Monsieur Lambert, the Comptroller General; and

Mr. Necker was called in, as Director General of the finance. To soften

the Archbishop’s dismission, a cardinal’s hat is asked for him from

Rome, and his nephew promised the succession to the Archbishopric of

Sens. The public joy, on this change of administration, was very great

indeed. The people of Paris were amusing themselves with trying and

burning the Archbishop in effigy, and rejoicing on the appointment

of Mr. Necker. The commanding officer of the city-guards undertook

to forbid this, and not being obeyed, he charged the mob with fixed

bayonets, killed two or three, and wounded many: this stopped their

rejoicings for that day; but enraged at being thus obstructed in

amusements wherein they had committed no disorder whatever, they

collected in great numbers the next day, attacked the guards in various

places, burnt ten or twelve guard-houses, killed two or three of the

guards, and had about six or eight of their own number killed. The

city was hereupon put under martial law, and after a while, the tumult

subsided, and peace was restored. The public stocks rose ten per cent,

on the day of Mr. Necker’s appointment: he was immediately offered

considerable sums of money, and has been able so far to wave the benefit

of the act of bankruptcy, as to pay in cash all demands, except the

_remboursements des capitaux_. For these, and for a sure supply of

other wants, he will depend on the States General, and will hasten their

meetings, as is thought. No other change has yet taken place in the

administration. The minister of war, however, must certainly follow his

brother, and some think, and all wish, that Monsieur de Lamoignon, the

_Garde des Sceaux_, may go out also. The administration of justice is

still suspended. The whole kingdom seems tranquil at this moment.

Abroad, no event worth noting has taken place since my last. The court

of Denmark has not declared it will do any thing more, than furnish the

stipulated aid to Russia. The King of Prussia has as yet made no move,

which may decide whether he will engage in the war, nor has England sent

any squadron into the Baltic. As the season for action is considerably

passed over, it is become more doubtful, whether any other power will

enter the lists till the next campaign; this will give time for stopping

the further progress of the war, if they really wish to stop it. Two

camps of twenty-five thousand men each are forming in this country on

its northern limits. The Prince of Conde has the command of one, and the

Duke de Broglio of the other.

I trouble you with the enclosed letter from a Henry Watson, claiming

prize monies, as having served under Admiral Paul Jones, which I suppose

should go to the treasury, or war-office.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and

respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble; servant,

Th: Jefferson,

LETTER CLIX.--TO THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE TREASURY, Sep. 6, 1788

TO THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE TREASURY.

Paris, September 6, 1788.

Gentlemen,

Your favor of July the 3rd came to hand some days ago, and that of July

the 22nd in the afternoon of yesterday. Knowing that a Mr. Vannet was to

leave Paris this morning to go to Virginia in a vessel bound from Havre

to Potomac, I have engaged him to receive the papers which are the

subject of those letters, to take care of them from thence to Havre,

and on the voyage; and when he shall have arrived in Potomac, instead

of going directly to Richmond, as he intended, he will proceed with them

himself to New York. I shall pay here all expenses to their delivery at

the ship’s side in America, freight included: unless, perhaps, he may

find it necessary to put another covering over them, if he should not

be able to get them into the cabin; in this case, you will have to

reimburse him for that. I engage to him that you shall pay him their

transportation from the ship’s side to New York, and his own reasonable

expenses from the place of his landing to New York, and back to the

place of landing. As he takes that journey for this object only, it

would be reasonable that you give him some gratuity for his time and

trouble, and I suppose it would be accepted by him; but I have made no

agreement for this. The papers are contained in a large box and a trunk.

They were sent here by Mr. Ast, during my absence in Holland. When they

arrived at the gates of Paris, the officers of the customs opened the

trunk, to see whether it contained dutiable articles; but finding only

books and papers, they concluded the contents of the box to be of the

same nature, and did not open that. You receive it, therefore, as it

came from the hands of Mr. Ast. A small trunk, which came as a third

package from Mr. Ast, and which has never been opened, I have put into

the great trunk, without displacing, or ever having touched a single

paper, except as far as was necessary to make room for that. I shall

have the whole corded and plumbed by the Custom-house here, not only to

prevent their being opened at the Custom-houses on the road, and at the

port of exportation, but to prove to you, whether they shall have been

opened by any body else after going out of my hands. If the stamped

leads are entire, and the cords uncut, when you receive them, you will

be sure they have not been opened; they will be wrapt in oil-cloth here

to guard them against the damps of the sea; and, as I mentioned

before, Mr. Vannet will put them under another covering, if he finds it

necessary, at Havre.

At the same time with your last letter, I received from the office of

Foreign Affairs the ratification by Congress of the loan of 1788, for

another million of guilders. As the necessity of this loan resulted

from the estimate made by Mr. Adams and myself, which estimate was laid

before Congress, I suppose their ratification of the loan implies that

of the estimate. One article of this was for the redemption of our

captives at Algiers. Though your letter says nothing on this subject,

I am in hopes you have sent orders to the commissioners of the loans

at Amsterdam to furnish, as soon as they shall have it, what may be

necessary for this pressing call. So also for the foreign officers. If

the ratification of the loan has been made by Congress, with a view

to fulfil the objects of the estimate, a general order from you to the

commissioners of the loans at Amsterdam, to pay the monies from time to

time, according to that estimate, or to such other as you shall furnish

them with, might save the trouble of particular orders on every single

occasion, and the disappointments arising from the delay or miscarriage

of such orders: but it is for you to decide on this.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect respect,

Gentlemen, your most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CLX.--TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN,

TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN.

Paris, September 11, 1788.

Sir,

In the course of the last war, the house of Schweighaeuser and Dobree of

Nantes, and Puchilberg of L’Orient, presented to Dr. Franklin a demand

against the United States of America. He, being acquainted with the

circumstances of the demand, and knowing it to be unfounded, refused

to pay it. They thereupon procured seizure, by judiciary authority, of

certain arms and other military stores which we had purchased in this

country, and had deposited for embarkation at Nantes: and these

stores have remained in that position ever since. Congress have lately

instructed me to put an end to this matter. Unwilling to trouble your

Excellency, whenever it can be avoided, I proposed to the parties to

have the question decided by arbitrators, to be chosen by us jointly.

They have refused it, as you will see by their answers to my letters,

copies of both which I have the honor to enclose you. I presume it to

be well settled in practice, that the property of one sovereign is not

permitted to be seized within the dominions of another; and that this

practice is founded not only in mutual respect, but in mutual utility.

To what the contrary practice would lead, is evident in the present

case, wherein military stores have been stopped, in the course of a war,

in which our greatest difficulties proceeded from the want of military

stores. In their letter, too, they make a merit of not having seized

one of our ships of war, and certainly the principle which admits the

seizure of arms, would admit that of a whole fleet, and would often

furnish an enemy the easiest means of defeating an expedition. The

parties obliging me, then, to have recourse to your Excellency on this

occasion, I am under the necessity of asking an order from you for the

immediate delivery of the stores and other property of the United States

at Nantes, detained by the house of Schweighaeuser and Dobree, and that

of Puchilberg, or by either of them, under a pretence of a judicial

seizure.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect respect and

esteem, your Excellency’s most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CLXI.--TO M. DE REYNEVAL, September 16, 1788

TO M. DE REYNEVAL.

Sir,

Paris, September 16, 1788.

I have the honor now to enclose you my observations on the alteration

proposed in the consular convention. There remain only three articles of

those heretofore in question between us, to which I am unable to

agree; that is to say, the second, proposing still to retain personal

immunities for the consuls, and others attached to their office; the

eighth, proposing that the navigation code of each nation shall be

established in the territories of the other; and the ninth, insisting

that the ship’s roll shall be conclusive evidence that a person belongs

to the ship.

There are several new matters introduced into the draught: some of these

are agreed to; others cannot be admitted, as being contrary to the

same principles which had obliged me to disagree to some of the former

articles. The greatest part of the eleventh, and the whole of the

twelfth new articles, are in this predicament. They propose, that no

person shall be arrested on board a merchant vessel, for any cause, but

in presence of the consul; that no such vessel shall be visited, but

in his presence; and that when the officers of justice have reason to

believe that a criminal has taken refuge on board a vessel of war, the

captain’s word shall be conclusive evidence that he is not there.

To the objections which I had the honor of stating in my letter to his

Excellency, the Count de Montmorin, I have now that of adding some other

observations, of which I request your perusal. I enclose with them a

draught, on the basis of the one you were pleased to give me, altered so

as to reconcile it to the spirit of our laws.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and

respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CLXII.--TO THE MARQUIS DE LA ROUERIE, September 16,1788

TO THE MARQUIS DE LA ROUERIE.

Paris, September 16,1788.

Sir,

On receiving the first letters which you did me the honor to write to me

on the arrears due to you from the United States, I informed you that

I had nothing to do in the money department; that the subject of your

letters belonged altogether to the treasury board, and to Mr. Grand,

their banker here, to the former of whom I forwarded your letters. As

I felt an anxiety, however, that the foreign officers should be paid, I

took the liberty of pressing the treasury board, from time to time, to

exert themselves for that effect; and I availed myself of an opportunity

which occurred last spring, of setting on foot measures, which, with

their approbation, might furnish the means of effecting this payment.

So far my information to you went, and I added a supposition, that the

treasury board would probably give orders on the subject, in the course

of the month of July. But I made you no promise; it would have been

strange if I had; nor does my office, nor any thing I have ever said

or done, subject me to the demand of immediate payment, which you are

pleased to make on me, nor call on me for any declaration or answer,

positive or negative.

Finding that my interference, which was friendly only, and avowed to be

inofficial, has given occasion to your letter of yesterday, in a style

which I did not expect, and to which I can have no motive for

further exposing myself, I must take the liberty of desiring that the

correspondence between us on this subject may cease. I presume that the

certificate given you points out the person, here or elsewhere, to whom

your applications are to be made, and that he will inform you when he

receives orders on your subject.

I am, Sir, your humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CLXIII.--TO WILLIAM SHORT, September 20, 1788

TO WILLIAM SHORT.

Paris, September 20, 1788.

Dear Sir,

The evening of your departure, a letter came by the way of London and

New York, addressed to you, and probably from Virginia. I think you

wished your American letters to remain here; I shall therefore keep it.

The passport now enclosed came the day after your departure; so also

did a mass of American letters for me, as low down as August the 10th.

I shall give you their substance. The convention of Virginia annexed

to their ratification of the new constitution a copy of the State

declaration of rights, not by way of condition, but to announce

their attachment to them. They added also propositions for specific

alterations of the constitution. Among these was one for rendering the

President incapable of serving more than eight years, in any term of

sixteen. New York has followed the example of Virginia, expressing the

substance of her bill of rights (that is, Virginia’s), and proposing

amendments: these last differ much from those of Virginia; but they

concur as to the President, only proposing that he shall be incapable

of being elected more than twice. But I own I should like better than

either of these, what Luther Martin tells us was repeatedly voted and

adhered to by the federal convention, and only altered about twelve days

before their rising, when some members had gone off; to wit, that he

should be elected for seven years, and incapable for ever after. But New

York has taken another step, which gives uneasiness; she has written a

circular letter to all the legislatures, asking their concurrence in

an immediate convention for making amendments. No news yet from North

Carolina. Electors are to be chosen the first Wednesday in January;

the President to be elected the first Wednesday in February; the new

legislature to meet the third week in March:--the place is not yet

decided on. Philadelphia was first proposed, and had six and a half

votes; the half vote was Delaware, one of whose members wanted to take

a vote on Wilmington; then Baltimore was proposed and carried, and

afterwards rescinded: so that the matter stood open as ever on the 10th

of August; but it was allowed the dispute lay only between New York and

Philadelphia, and rather thought in favor of the last. The Rhode Island

Delegates had retired from Congress. Dr. Franklin was dangerously ill

of the gout and stone on the 21st of July. My letters of August the 10th

not mentioning him, I hope he was recovered. Warville, &c. were arrived.

Congress had referred the decision, as to the independence of Kentucky,

to the new government. Brown ascribes this to the jealousy of the

northern States, who want Vermont to be received at the same time,

in order to preserve a balance of interests in Congress. He was just

setting out for Kentucky, disgusted, yet disposed to persuade to an

acquiescence, though doubting they would immediately separate from the

Union. The principal obstacle to this, he thought, would be the Indian

war.

The following is a quotation from a letter from Virginia, dated July the

12th. ‘P------n, though much impaired in health, and in every respect in

the decline of life, showed as much zeal to carry the new constitution,

as if he had been a young man; perhaps more than he discovered in the

commencement of the late revolution,in his opposition to Great Britain.

W------e acted as chairman to the committee of the whole, and of course

took but little part in the debate; but was for the adoption, relying

on subsequent amendments. B------r said nothing, but was for it. The

G------r exhibited a curious spectacle to view. Having refused to sign

the paper, every body supposed him against it; but he afterwards had

written a letter, and having taken a part, which might be called rather

vehement than active, he was constantly laboring to show, that his

present conduct was consistent with that letter, and that letter with

his refusal to sign. M--d--n took the principal share in the debate for

it; in which, together with the aid I have already mentioned, he was

somewhat assisted by I--nn--s, Lee, M------l, C------n, and G. N------s.

M--s--n, H------y, and Gr------n were the principal supporters of the

opposition. The discussion, as might be expected, where the parties

were so nearly on a balance, was conducted generally with great order,

propriety, and respect of either party to the other.’

The assembly of Virginia, hurried to their harvests, would not enter

into a discussion of the district bill, but suspended it to the next

session. E. Winston is appointed a judge, vice Gabriel Jones, resigned.

R. Goode and Andrew Moore, Counsellors, vice B. Starke, dead, and Joseph

Egglestone, resigned. It is said Wilson, of Philadelphia, is talked of

to succeed Mr. A. in London. _Quære?_

The dispute about Virgil’s tomb and the laurel, seems to be at length

settled, by the testimony of two travellers, given separately, and

without a communication with each other. These both say, that attempting

to pluck off a branch of the laurel, it followed their hand, being, in

fact, nothing more than a plant or bough recently cut, and stuck in the

ground for the occasion. The Cicerone acknowledged the roguery, and said

they practised it with almost every traveller, to get money. You will,

of course, tug well at the laurel which shall be shown you, to see if

this be the true solution.

The President Dupaty is dead. Monsieur de Barentin, _prémier president

de la cour des aides_, is appointed _Garde des Sceaux_. The stocks are

rather lower than when you left this. Present me in the most friendly

terms to Messrs. Shippen and Rutledge. I rely on your communicating to

them the news, and, therefore, on their pardoning me for not repeating

it in separate letters to them. You can satisfy them how necessary this

economy of my time and labor is. This goes to Geneva _poste restante_. I

shall not write again till you tell me where to write to.

Accept very sincere assurances of the affection, with which I am, Dear

Sir, your friend and servant,

Th; Jefferson.

LETTER CLXIV.--TO JOHN JAY, September 24,1788

TO JOHN JAY.

Paris, September 24,1788.

Sir,

Understanding that the vessel is not yet sailed from Havre, which is

to carry my letters of the 3rd and 5th instant, I am in hopes you will

receive the present with them. The Russian accounts of their victories

on the Black Sea must have been greatly exaggerated. According to these,

the Captain Pacha’s fleet was annihilated; yet themselves have lately

brought him on the stage again, with fifteen ships of the line, in order

to obtain another victory over him. I believe the truth to be, that he

has suffered some checks, of what magnitude it is impossible to say,

where one side alone is heard, and that he is still master of that sea.

He has relieved Oczakow, which still holds out; Choczim also is still

untaken, and the Emperor’s situation is apprehended to be bad. He spun

his army into a long cord, to cover several hundred miles of frontier,

which put it in the power of the Turks to attack with their whole force

wherever they pleased. Laudon, now called to head the imperial army, is

endeavoring to collect it; but in the mean time the campaign is drawing

to a close, and has been worse than fruitless. The resistance of Russia

to Sweden has been successful in every point by sea and land, This, with

the interference of Denmark, and the discontent of the Swedish nation;

at the breach of their constitution, by the King’s undertaking an

offensive war without the consent of the Senate, has obliged him to

withdraw his attacks by land, and to express a willingness for peace;

one third of his officers have refused to serve. England and Prussia

have offered their mediation between Sweden and Russia, in such

equivocal terms, as to leave themselves at liberty to say it was an

offer, or was not, just as it shall suit them. Denmark is asking the

counter-offer of mediation from this court. If England and Prussia make

a peace effectually in the north (which it is absolutely in their power

to do), it will be a proof they do not intend to enter into the war;

if they do not impose a peace, I should suspect they mean to engage

themselves; as one can hardly suppose they would let the war go on in

its present form, wherein Sweden must be crushed between Russia and

Denmark.

The _Garde des Sceaux_, M. de Lamoignon, was dismissed the 14th instant,

and M. de Barentin is appointed in his room. The deputies of Bretagne

are released from the Bastile, and M. d’Epermesnil and M. Sabatier

recalled from their confinement. The parliament is not yet reinstated;

but it is confidently said it will be this week. The stocks continue

low, and the treasury under a hard struggle to keep the government in

motion. It is believed the meeting of the States General will be as

early as January, perhaps December. I have received a duplicate of the

ratification of the loan of 1788, by Congress, and a duplicate of a

letter of July the 22nd, from the treasury board, on another subject,

but none on that of the captives, or foreign officers. I suppose

some cause of delay must have intervened between the ratification of

Congress, and the consequent orders of the treasury board.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and

respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant;

Th: Jefferson,

LETTER CLXV.--TO M. DE REYNEVAL, October 1, 1788

TO M. DE REYNEVAL.

Paris, October 1, 1788

Sir,

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