You promise, in your letter of October the 23rd, 1787, to give me in

your next, at large, the conjectures of your philosopher on the descent

of the Creek Indians from the Carthaginians, supposed to have been

separated from Hanno’s fleet, during his periplus. I shall be very glad

to receive them, and see nothing impossible in his conjecture. I am glad

he means to appeal to similarity of language, which I consider as the

strongest kind of proof it is possible to adduce. I have somewhere read,

that the language of the ancient Carthaginians is still spoken by their

descendants, inhabiting the mountainous interior parts of Barbary, to

which they were obliged to retire by the conquering Arabs. If so, a

vocabulary of their tongue can still be got, and if your friend will get

one of the Creek languages, the comparison will decide. He probably may

have made progress in this business: but if he wishes any inquiries to

be made on this side the Atlantic, I offer him my services cheerfully;

my wish being, like his to ascertain the history of the American

aborigines.

I congratulate you on the accesion of your State to the new federal

constitution. This is the last I have yet heard of, but I expect daily

to hear that my own has followed the good example, and suppose it to be

already established. Our government wanted bracing. Still we must take

care not to run from one extreme to another; not to brace too high. I

own, I join those in opinion, who think a bill of rights necessary. I

apprehend too, that the total abandonment of the principle of rotation

in the offices of President and Senator, will end in abuse. But my

confidence is, that there will, for a long time, be virtue and good

sense enough in our countrymen, to correct abuses. We can surely boast

of having set the world a beautiful example of a government reformed by

reason alone, without bloodshed. But the world is too far oppressed to

profit by the example. On this side of the Atlantic, the blood of the

people has become an inheritance, and those who fatten on it, will

not relinquish it easily. The struggle in this country is, as yet,

of doubtful issue. It is, in fact, between the monarchy and the

parliaments. The nation is no otherwise concerned, but as both parties

may be induced to let go some of its abuses, to court the public favor.

The danger is, that the people, deceived by a false cry of liberty, may

be led to take side with one party, and thus give the other a pretext

for crushing them still more. If they can avoid the appeal to arms, the

nation will be sure to gain much by this controversy. But if that appeal

is made, it will depend entirely on the disposition of the army, whether

it issue in liberty or despotism. Those dispositions are not as yet

known. In the mean time, there is great probability that the war kindled

in the east, will spread from nation to nation, and, in the long run,

become general.

*****

I am, with the most sincere esteem and attachment, my dear; Sir, your

friend and servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXLVII.--TO MR. BELLINI, July 25,1788

TO MR. BELLINI.

Paris, July 25,1788.

Dear Sir,

Though I have written to you seldom, you are often the object of

my thoughts, and always of my affection. The truth is, that the

circumstances with which I am surrounded, offer little worth detailing

to you. You are too wise to feel an interest in the squabbles, in

which the pride, the dissipations, and the tyranny of kings, keep this

hemisphere constantly embroiled. Science, indeed, finds some aliment

here, and you are one of her sons. But this I have pretty regularly

communicated to Mr. Madison, with whom, I am sure, you participate of

it. It is with sincere pleasure I congratulate you on the good fortune

of our friend Mazzei, who is appointed here, to correspond with the King

of Poland. The particular character given him is not well defined, but

the salary is, which is more important. It is eight thousand livres a

year, which will enable him to live comfortably, while his duties will

find him that occupation, without which he cannot exist. Whilst this

appointment places him at his ease, it affords a hope of permanence

also. It suspends, if not entirely prevents, the visit he had intended

to his native country, and the return to his adoptive one, which the

death of his wife had rendered possible. This last event has given him

three quarters of the globe elbow-room, which he had ceded to her, on

condition she would leave him quiet in the fourth. Their partition of

the next world will be more difficult, if it be divided only into two

parts, according to the protestant faith. Having seen by a letter you

wrote him, that you were in want of a pair of spectacles, I undertook

to procure you some, which I packed in a box of books addressed to Mr.

Wythe, and of which I beg your acceptance. This box lay forgotten at

Havre the whole of the last winter, but was at length shipped, and I

trust has come to hand. I packed with the spectacles three or four pair

of glasses, adapted to the different periods of life, distinguished from

each other by numbers, and easily changed. You see I am looking forward

in hope of a long life for you; and that it may be long enough to carry

you through the whole succession of glasses, is my sincere prayer.

Present me respectfully to Mrs. Bellini, assure her of my affectionate

remembrance of her, and my wishes for her health and happiness; and

accept yourself very sincere professions of the esteem and attachment

with which I am, Dear Sir, your affectionate friend and servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXLVIII.--TO JAMES MADISON, July 31, 1788

TO JAMES MADISON.

Paris, July 31, 1788.

Dear Sir,

My last letters to you were of the 3rd and the 25th of May. Yours from

Orange, of April the 22nd, came to hand on the 10th instant.

My letter to Mr. Jay containing all the public news that is well

authenticated, I will not repeat it here, but add some details in the

smaller way, which you may be glad to know. The disgrace of the Marquis

de la Fayette, which, at any other period of their history, would have

had the worst consequences for him, will, on the contrary, mark him

favorably to the nation, at present. During the present administration,

he can expect nothing; but perhaps it may serve him with their

successors, whenever a change shall take place. No change of the

Principal will probably take place, before the meeting of the States

General; though a change is to be wished, for his operations do not

answer the expectations formed of him. These had been calculated, on his

brilliancy in society. He is very feebly aided too. Montmorin is weak,

though a most worthy character. He is indolent and inattentive too,

in the extreme. Luzerne is considerably inferior in abilities to his

brother, whom you know. He is a good man too, but so much out of his

element, that he has the air of one _huskanoyed_. The _Garde des Sceaux_

is considered as the Principal’s bull-dog, braving danger like the

animal. His talents do not pass mediocrity. The Archbishop’s brother,

and the new minister Villedeuil, and Lambert, have no will of their

own. They cannot raise money for the peace establishment the next

year, without the States General; much less if there be war; and their

administration will probably end with the States General.

Littlepage, who was here as a secret agent for the King of Poland,

rather overreached himself. He wanted more money. The King furnished it,

more than once. Still he wanted more, and thought to obtain a high bid,

by saying he was called for in America, and asking leave to go there.

Contrary to his expectation, he received leave; but he went to Warsaw

instead of America, and from thence, to join the * * * * I do not know

[* Several paragraphs of this letter are in cipher, A few

words here could not be deciphered.]

these facts certainly, but collect them, by putting several things

together. The King then sent an ancient secretary here, in whom he had

much confidence, to look out for a correspondent, a mere letter-writer

for him. A happy hazard threw Mazzei in his way. He recommended him,

and he is appointed. He has no diplomatic character whatever, but is to

receive eight thousand livres a year, as an intelligencer. I hope

this employment may have some permanence. The danger is, that he will

over-act his part.

The Marquis de la Luzerne had been for many years married to his

brother’s wife’s sister, secretly. She was ugly and deformed, but

sensible, amiable, and rather rich. When he was ambassador to London,

with ten thousand guineas a year, the marriage was avowed, and he

relinquished his cross of Malta, from which he derived a handsome

revenue for life, and which was very open to advancement. Not long ago,

she died. His real affection for her, which was great and unfeigned, and

perhaps the loss of his order, for so short-lived a satisfaction, has

thrown him almost into a state of despondency. He is now here.

I send you a book of Dupont’s, on the subject of the commercial treaty

with England. Though its general matter may not be interesting, yet

you will pick up, in various parts of it, such excellent principles and

observations, as will richly repay the trouble of reading it. I send

you, also, two little pamphlets of the Marquis de Condorcet, wherein is

the most judicious statement I have seen, of the great questions

which agitate this nation at present. The new regulations present a

preponderance of good over their evil; but they suppose that the

King can model the constitution at will, or, in other words, that his

government is a pure despotism. The question then arising is, whether a

pure despotism in a single head, or one which is divided among a king,

nobles, priesthood, and numerous magistracy, is the least bad. I should

be puzzled to decide: but I hope they will have neither, and that they

are advancing to a limited, moderate government, in which the people

will have a good share.

I sincerely rejoice at the acceptance of our new constitution by

nine States. It is a good canvass, on which some strokes only want

retouching. What these are, I think are sufficiently manifested by the

general voice from north to south, which calls for a bill of rights.

It seems pretty generally understood, that this should go to juries,

_habeas corpus_, standing armies, printing, religion, and monopolies.

I conceive there may be difficulty in finding general modifications of

these, suited to the habits of all the States. But if such cannot be

found, then it is better to establish trials by jury, the right of

_habeas corpus_, freedom of the press, and freedom of religion, in all

cases, and to abolish standing armies in time of peace, and monopolies

in all cases, than not to do it in any. The few cases wherein these

things may do evil, cannot be weighed against the multitude, wherein the

want of them will do evil. In disputes between a foreigner and a native,

a trial by jury may be improper. But if this exception cannot be agreed

to, the remedy will be to model the jury, by giving the _medietas

linguæ_, in civil as well as criminal cases. Why suspend the _habeas

corpus_ in insurrections and rebellions? The parties who may be

arrested, may be charged instantly with a well-defined crime: of course,

the judge will remand them. If the public safety requires, that the

government should have a man imprisoned on less probable testimony in

those than in other emergencies, let him be taken and tried, retaken and

retried, while the necessity continues, only giving him redress against

the government, for damages. Examine the history of England. See how

few of the cases of the suspension of the _habeas corpus_ law have been

worthy of that suspension. They have been either real treason, wherein

the parties might as well have been charged at once, or sham plots,

where it was shameful they should ever have been suspected. Yet for the

few cases, wherein the suspension of the _habeas corpus_ has done real

good, that operation is now become habitual, and the minds of the nation

almost prepared to live under its constant suspension. A declaration,

that the federal government will never restrain the presses from

printing any thing they please, will not take away the liability of the

printers for false facts printed. The declaration, that religious faith

shall be unpunished, does not give impunity to criminal acts, dictated

by religious error. The saying--there shall be no monopolies, lessens

the incitements to ingenuity, which is spurred on by the hope of a

monopoly for a limited time, as of fourteen years; but the benefit of

even limited monopolies is too doubtful, to be opposed to that of their

general suppression. If no check can be found to keep the number of

standing troops within safe bounds, while they are tolerated as far as

necessary, abandon them altogether, discipline well the militia,

and guard the magazines with them. More than magazine guards will be

useless, if few, and dangerous, if many. No European nation can ever

send against us such a regular army as we need fear, and it is hard, if

our militia are not equal to those of Canada or Florida. My idea then,

is, that though proper exceptions to these general rules are desirable,

and probably practicable, yet if the exceptions cannot be agreed on,

the establishment of the rules, in all cases, will do ill in very few.

I hope, therefore, a bill of rights will be formed, to guard the people

against the federal government, as they are already guarded against

their State governments, in most instances. The abandoning the principle

of necessary rotation in the Senate, has, I see, been disapproved by

many: in the case of the President, by none. I readily, therefore,

suppose my opinion wrong, when opposed by the majority, as in the former

instance, and the totality, as in the latter. In this, however, I should

have done it with more complete satisfaction, had we all judged from the

same position.

Solicitations, which cannot be directly refused, oblige me to trouble

you often with letters, recommending and introducing to you persons who

go from hence to America. I will beg the favor of you to distinguish

the letters wherein I appeal to recommendations from other persons, from

those which I write on my own knowledge. In the former, it is never my

intention to compromit myself or you. In both instances, I must beg you

to ascribe the trouble I give you, to circumstances which do not leave

me at liberty to decline it.

I am, with very sincere esteem, Dear Sir, your affectionate friend and

servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXLIX.--TO JOHN JAY, August 3, 1788

TO JOHN JAY.

Paris, August 3, 1788.

Sir,

My last letters to you were of the 4th and 23d of May, with a Postscript

of the 27th. Since that, I have been honored with yours of April the

24th, May the 16th, and June the 9th.

The most remarkable internal occurrences since my last are these. The

_Noblesse_ of Bretagne, who had received with so much warmth the late

innovations in the government, assembled, and drew up a memorial to the

King, and chose twelve members of their body to come and present it.

Among these was the Marquis de la Rouerie (Colonel Armand). The King,

considering the _Noblesse_ as having no legal right to assemble,

declined receiving the memorial. The deputies, to give greater weight to

it, called a meeting of the landed proprietors of Bretagne, resident at

Paris, and proposed to them to add their signatures--They did so, to the

number of about sixty, of whom the Marquis de la Fayette was one. The

twelve deputies, for having called this meeting, were immediately

sent to the Bastile where they now are, and the Parisian signers were

deprived of such favors as they held of the court. There were only four

of them, however, who held any thing of that kind. The Marquis de la

Fayette was one of these. They had given him a military command, to

be exercised in the south of France, during the months of August and

September of the present year. This they took from him; so that he is

disgraced, in the ancient language of the court, but in truth, honorably

marked in the eyes of the nation. The ministers are so sensible of

this, that they have had, separately, private conferences with him, to

endeavor, through him, to keep things quiet. From the character of the

province of Bretagne, it was much apprehended, for some days, that the

imprisonment of their deputies would have produced an insurrection.

But it took another turn. The _Cours intermédiaire_ of the province,

acknowledged to be a legal body, deputed eighteen members of their body

to the King. To these he gave an audience, and the answer, of which I

send you a copy. This is hard enough. Yet I am in hopes the appeal to

the sword will be avoided, and great modifications in the government be

obtained without bloodshed. As yet none has been spilt, according to

the best evidence I have been able to obtain, notwithstanding what the

foreign newspapers have said to the contrary. The convocation of the

States General has now become inevitable. Whenever the time shall be

announced certainly, it will keep the nation quiet till they meet.

According to present probabilities, this must be in the course of the

next summer; but to what movements their meeting and measures may give

occasion, cannot be foreseen. Should a foreign war take place, still

they must assemble the States General, because they cannot, but by

their aid, obtain money to carry it on. Monsieur de Malesherbes will, I

believe, retire from the King’s Council. He has been much opposed to

the late acts of authority. The Baron de Breteuil has resigned his

secretaryship of the domestic department; certainly not for the same

reasons, as he is known to have been of opinion, that the King had

compromitted too much of his authority. The real reason has probably

been, an impatience of acting under a principal minister. His successor

is M. de Villedeuil, lately Comptroller General.

The ambassadors of Tippoo Saib have arrived here. If their mission has

any other object than that of pomp and ceremony, it is not yet made

known. Though this court has not avowed that they are in possession of

Trincomale, yet the report is believed, and that possession was taken by

General Conway, in consequence of orders given in the moment that they

thought a war certain. The dispute with the States General of the United

Netherlands, on account of the insult to M. de St. Priest, does not tend

as yet towards a settlement. He has obtained leave to go to the waters,

and perhaps from thence he may come to Paris, to await events. Sweden

has commenced hostilities against Russia, by the taking a little

fortress by land. This having been their intention, it is wonderful,

that when their fleet lately met three Russian ships of one hundred guns

each, they saluted instead of taking them. The Empress has declared war

against them in her turn. It is well understood, that Sweden is set

on by England, and paid by the Turks. The prospect of Russia has much

brightened by some late successes. Their fleet of galleys and gun-boats,

twenty-seven in number, having been attacked by fifty-seven Turkish

vessels of the same kind, commanded by the Captain Pacha, these were

repulsed, with the loss of three vessels. In the action, which was on

the 18th of June, Admiral Paul Jones commanded the right wing of the

Russians, and the Prince of Nassau the left. On the 26th of the same

month, the Turkish principal fleet, that is to say, their ships of the

line, frigates, &c, having got themselves near the swash, at the

mouth of the Borysthenes, the Prince of Nassau took advantage of their

position, attacked them while so engaged in the mud that they could not

manoeuvre, burnt six, among which were the admiral’s and vice-admiral’s,

took two, and made between three and four thousand prisoners. The first

reports gave this success to Admiral Paul Jones; but it is now rendered

rather probable that he was not there, as he commands the vessels of war

which are said not to have been there. It is supposed, that his presence

in the affair of the 18th was accidental. But if this success has been

so complete as it is represented, the Black Sea must be tolerably open

to the Russians: in which case, we may expect, from what we know of that

officer, that he will improve to the greatest advantage the situation of

things on that sea. The Captain Pacha’s standard was taken in the last

action, and himself obliged to make his escape in a small vessel. Prince

Potemkin immediately got under march for Oczakow, to take advantage of

the consternation into which that place was thrown.

The Spanish squadron, after cruising off the Western Isles and Cape St.

Vincent, has returned into port.

A dispute has arisen between the Papal See and the King of Naples, which

may, in its progress, enable us to estimate what degree of influence

that See retains at the present day. The kingdom of Naples, at an early

period of its history, became feudatory to the See of Rome, and in

acknowledgment thereof, has annually paid a hackney to the Pope in

Rome, to which place it has always been sent by a splendid embassy. The

hackney has been refused by the King this year, and the Pope, giving

him three months to return to obedience, threatens, if he does not, to

proceed seriously against him.

About three weeks ago a person called on me, and informed me, that Silas

Deane had taken him in for a sum of one hundred and twenty guineas, and

that being unable to obtain any other satisfaction, he had laid hands on

his account book and letter book, and had brought them off to Paris,

to offer them first to the United States, if they would repay him his

money, and if not, that he should return to London, and offer them

to the British minister. I desired him to leave them with me four and

twenty hours, that I might judge whether they were worth our notice. He

did so. They were two volumes. One contained all his accounts with the

United States, from his first coming to Europe to January the 10th,

1781. Presuming that the treasury board was in possession of this

account till his arrival in Philadelphia, August, 1778, and that he had

never given in the subsequent part, I had that subsequent part copied

from the book, and now enclose it, as it may on some occasion or other,

perhaps, be useful in the treasury office. The other volume contained

all his correspondences from March the 30th to August the 23d, 1777. I

had a list of the letters taken by their dates and addresses, which will

enable you to form a general idea of the collection. On perusal of many

of them, I thought it desirable that they should not come to the hands

of the British minister, and from an expression dropped by the possessor

of them, I believe he would have fallen to fifty or sixty guineas. I did

not think them important enough, however, to justify my purchasing

them without authority; though, with authority, I should have done it.

Indeed, I would have given that sum to cut out a single sentence, which

contained evidence of a fact, not proper to be committed to the hands

of enemies. I told him I would state his proposition to you, and await

orders. I gave him back the books, and he returned to London without

making any promise, that he would await the event of the orders you

might think proper to give.

News of the accession of nine States to the new form of federal

government has been received here about a week. I have the honor to

congratulate you sincerely on this event. Of its effect at home, you

are in the best situation to judge. On this side the Atlantic, it

is considered as a very wise reformation. In consequence of this,

speculations are already begun here, to purchase up our domestic

liquidated debt. Indeed, I suspect that orders may have been previously

lodged in America to do this, as soon as the new constitution was

accepted effectually. If it is thought that this debt should be retained

at home, there is not a moment to lose; and I know of no means of

retaining it, but those I suggested to the treasury board, in my letter

to them of March the 29th. The transfer of these debts to Europe will

excessively embarrass, and perhaps totally prevent the borrowing any

money in Europe, till these shall be paid off. This is a momentous

object, and, in my opinion, should receive instantaneous attention.

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