_Petrarch._ Yes, in my own case I must confess I feel profoundly the

influence of a man of whom Cicero in his _Tusculan Orations_ made this

remark, which has remained graven in the bottom of my heart: "When

Plato vouchsafes not to bring forward any proof (you see what deference

I pay him), his mere authority would make me yield consent."[24]

Often in reflecting on this heavenly genius it has appeared to me an

injustice when the disciples of Pythagoras dispense their chief from

submitting proofs, that Plato should be supposed to have less liberty

than he. But, not to be carried away from our subject, authority,

reason and experience alike have for a long time so much commended this

axiom of Plato to me that I do not believe anything more true or more

truly holy could be said by any man. Every time I have raised myself

up, thanks to the hand of God stretched out to me, I have recognised

with infinite joy, beyond belief, who it was that then preserved me

and who had cast me down in times of old. Now that I am once more

fallen into my old misery, I feel with a keen sense of bitterness that

failing which again has undone me. And this I tell you, that you may

see nothing strange in my saying I had put Plato's maxim to the proof.

_S. Augustine._ Indeed, I think it not strange, for I have been witness

of your conflicts; I have seen you fall and then once again rise up,

and now that you are down once more I determined from pity to bring you

my succour.

_Petrarch._ I am grateful for your compassionate feeling, but of what

avail is any human succour?

_S. Augustine._ It avails nothing, but the succour of God is much every

way. None can be chaste except God give him the grace of chastity.[25]

You must therefore implore this grace from Him above all, with

humbleness, and often it may be with tears. He is wont never to deny

him who asks as he should.

_Petrarch_. So often have I done it that I fear I am as one too

importunate.

_S. Augustine_. But you have not asked with due humbleness or

singleness of heart. You have ever kept a corner for your passions

to creep in; you have always asked that your prayers may be granted

presently. I speak from experience, for I did likewise in my old life.

I said, "Give me chastity, but not now. Put it off a little while; the

time will soon come. My life is still in all its vigour; let it follow

its own course, obey its natural laws; it will feel it more of a shame

later, to return to its youthful folly. I will give up this failing

when the course of time itself shall have rendered me less inclined

that way, and when satiety will have delivered me from the fear of

going back."[26] In talking thus do you not perceive that you prayed

for one thing but wished another in your heart?

_Petrarch_. How so?

_S. Augustine._ Because to ask for a thing to-morrow is to put it aside

for to-day.

_Petrarch._ With tears have I often asked for it to-day. My hope was

that after breaking the chain of my passions and casting away the

misery of life, I should escape safe and sound, and after so many

storms of vain anxieties, I might swim ashore in some haven of safety;

but you see, alas, how many shipwrecks I have suffered among the same

rocks and shoals, and how I shall still suffer more if I am left to

myself.

_S. Augustine._ Trust me, there has always been something wanting in

your prayer; otherwise the Supreme Giver would have granted it or, as

in the case of the Apostle, would have only denied you to make you more

perfect in virtue and convince you entirely of your own frailty.[27]

_Petrarch._ That is my conviction also; and I will go on praying

constantly, unwearied, unashamed, undespairing. The Almighty, taking

pity on my sorrows, will perchance lend an ear to my prayer, sent up

daily to His throne, and even as He would not have denied His grace if

my prayers had been pure, so He will also purify them.

_S. Augustine._ You are quite right, but redouble your efforts; and, as

men wounded and fallen in battle raise themselves on their elbow, so do

you keep a look out on all sides for the dangers that beset you, for

fear that some foe; unseen come near and do you hurt yet more, where

you lie on the ground. In the mean time, pray instantly for the aid of

Him who is able to raise you up again. He will perchance be nearer to

you just then when you think Him furthest off. Keep ever in mind that

saying of Plato we were speaking of just now, "Nothing so much hinders

the knowledge of the Divine as lust and the burning desire of carnal

passion." Ponder well, therefore, this doctrine; it is the very basis

of our purpose that we have in hand.

_Petrarch._ To let you see how much I welcome this teaching, I have

treasured it with earnest care, not only when it dwells in the court of

Plato's royal demesne, but also where it lurks hidden in the forests

of other writers, and I have kept note in my memory of the very place

where it was first perceived by my mind.

_S. Augustine._ I wonder what is your meaning. Do you mind being more

explicit?

_Petrarch._ You know Virgil: you remember through what dangers he makes

his hero pass in that last awful night of the sack of Troy?

_S. Augustine._ Yes, it is a topic repeated over and over again in all

the schools. He makes him recount his adventures thus--

"What tongue could tell the horrors of that night,

Paint all the forms of death, or who have tears

Enough to weep so many wretched wights?

Hath the great city that so long was queen

Fallen at last? Behold in all the streets

The bodies of the dead by thousands strewn,

And in their homes and on the temple's steps!

Yet is there other blood than that of Troy,

What time her vanquished heroes gathering up

Their quenchless courage smite anon their foes,

They, though triumphant, fall. Everywhere grief,

Dread everywhere, and in all places Death!"[28]

_Petrarch._ Now wherever he wandered accompanied by the goddess of

Love, through crowding foes, through burning fire, he could not

discern, though his eyes were open, the wrath of the angered gods,

and so long as Venus was speaking to him he only had understanding

for things of earth. But as soon as she left him you remember what

happened; he immediately beheld the frowning faces of the deities, and

recognised what dangers beset him round about.

"Then I beheld the awe-inspiring form

Of gods in anger for the fall of Troy."[29]

From which my conclusion is that commerce with Venus takes away the

vision of the Divine.

_S. Augustine._ Among the clouds themselves you have clearly discerned

the light of truth. It is in this way that truth abides in the fictions

of the poets, and one perceives it shining out through the crevices of

their thought. But, as we shall have to return to this question later

on, let us reserve what we have to say for the end of our discourse.

_Petrarch._ That I may not get lost in tracks unknown to me, may I ask

when you propose to return to this point?

_S. Augustine._ I have not yet probed the deepest wounds of your soul,

and I have purposely deferred to do so, in order that, coming at the

end, my counsels may be more deeply graven in your remembrance. In

another dialogue we will treat more fully of the subject of the desires

of the flesh, on which we have just now lightly touched.

_Petrarch._ Go on, then, now as you proposed.

_S. Augustine._ Yes, there need be nothing to hinder me, unless you are

obstinately bent on stopping me.

_Petrarch._ Indeed, nothing will please me better than to banish for

ever every cause of dispute from the earth. I have never engaged in

disputation, even on things perfectly familiar, without regretting it;

for the contentions that arise, even between friends, have a certain

character of sharpness and hostility contrary to the laws of friendship.

But pass on to those matters in which you think I shall welcome your

good counsel.

_S. Augustine._ You are the victim of a terrible plague of the

soul--melancholy; which the moderns call _accidie_, but which in old

days used to be called _ægritudo._

_Petrarch._ The very name of this complaint makes me shudder.

_S. Augustine._ Nor do I wonder, for you have endured its burden long

enough.

_Petrarch._ Yes, and though in almost all other diseases which torment

me there is mingled a certain false delight, in this wretched state

everything is harsh, gloomy, frightful. The way to despair is for ever

open, and everything goads one's miserable soul to self-destruction.

Moreover, while other passions attack me only in bouts, which, though

frequent, are but short and for a moment, this one usually has invested

me so closely that it clings to and tortures me for whole days and

nights together. In such times I take no pleasure in the light of day,

I see nothing, I am as one plunged in the darkness of hell itself, and

seem to endure death in its most cruel form. But what one may call the

climax of the misery is, that I so feed upon my tears and sufferings

with a morbid attraction that I can only be rescued from it by main

force and in despite of myself.

_S. Augustine._ So well do you know your symptoms, so familiar are you

become with their cause, that I beg you will tell me what is it that

depresses you most at the present hour? Is it the general course of

human affairs? Is it some physical trouble, or some disgrace of fortune

in men's eyes?

_Petrarch._ It is no one of these separately. Had I only been

challenged to single combat, I would certainly have come off

victorious; but now, as it is, I am besieged by a whole host of enemies.

_S. Augustine_. I pray you will tell me fully all that torments you.

_Petrarch._ Every time that fortune pushes me back one step, I stand

firm and courageous, recalling to myself that often before I have been

struck in the same way and yet have come off conqueror; if, after that,

she presently deals me a sterner blow, I begin to stagger somewhat;

if then she returns to the charge a third and fourth time, driven by

force, I retreat, not hurriedly but step by step, to the citadel of

Reason.

If fortune still lays siege to me there with all her troops, and if,

to reduce me to surrender, she piles up the sorrows of our human lot,

the remembrance of my old miseries and the dread of evils yet to come,

then, at lost, hemmed in on all sides, seized with terror at these

heaped-up calamities, I bemoan my wretched fate, and feel rising in my

very soul this bitter disdain of life. Picture to yourself some one

beset with countless enemies, with no hope of escape or of pity, with

no comfort anywhere, with every one and everything against him; his

foes bring up their batteries, they mine the very ground beneath his

feet, the towers are already falling, the ladders are at the gates, the

grappling-hooks are fastened to the walls, the fire is seen crackling

through the roofs, and, at sight of those gleaming swords on every

side, those fierce faces of his foes, and that utter ruin that is upon

him, how should he not be utterly dismayed and overwhelmed, since, even

if life itself should be left, yet to men not quite bereft of every

feeling the loss of liberty alone is a mortal stroke?

_S. Augustine._ Although your confession is a little confused, I

make out that your misfortunes all proceed from a single false

conception which has in the past claimed and in futuro will still claim

innumerable victims. You have a bad conceit of yourself.

_Petrarch._ Yes, truly, a very bad one.

_S. Augustine._ And why?

_Petrarch._ Not for one, but a thousand reasons.

_S. Augustine._ You are like people who on the slightest offence rake

up all the old grounds of quarrel they ever had.

_Petrarch._ In my case there is no wound old enough for it to have

been effaced and forgotten: my sufferings are all quite fresh, and if

anything by chance were made better through time, Fortune has so soon

redoubled her strokes that the open wound has never been perfectly

healed over. I cannot, moreover, rid myself of that hate and disdain of

our life which I spoke of. Oppressed with that, I cannot but be grieved

and sorrowful exceedingly. That you call this grief _accidie_ or

_ægritudo_ makes no difference; in substance we mean one and the same

thing.

_S. Augustine._ As from what I can understand the evil is so

deep-seated, it will do no good to heal it slightly, for it will soon

throw out more shoots. It must be entirely rooted up. Yet I know not

where to begin, so many complications alarm me. But to make the task of

dividing the matter easier, I will examine each point in detail. Tell

me, then, what is it that has hurt you most?

_Petrarch_. Whatever I see, or hear, or feel.

_S. Augustine._ Come, come, does nothing please you?

_Petrarch_. Nothing, or almost nothing.

_S. Augustine._ Would to God that at least the better things in your

life might be dear, to you. But tell me what is it that is to you the

most displeasing of all? I beg you give me an answer.

_Petrarch._ I have already answered.

_S. Augustine._ It is this melancholy I spoke of which is the true

cause of all your displeasure with yourself.

_Petrarch._ I am just as displeased with what I see in others as with

what I see in myself.

_S. Augustine._ That too comes from the same source. But to get a

little order into our discourse, does what you see in yourself truly

displease you as much as you say?

_Petrarch._ Stop worrying me with your petty questions, that are more

than I know how to reply to.

_S. Augustine._ I see, then, that those things which make many other

people envy you are nevertheless in your own eyes of no account at all?

_Petrarch._ Any one who envies a wretch like me must indeed himself be

wretched.

_S. Augustine._ But now please tell me what is it that most displeases

you?

_Petrarch._ I am sure I do not know.

_S. Augustine._ If I guess right will you acknowledge it?

_Petrarch._ Yes, I will, quite freely.

_S. Augustine._ You are vexed with Fortune.

_Petrarch._ And am I not right to hate her? Proud, violent, blind, she

makes a mock of mankind.

_S. Augustine._ It is an idle complaint. Let us look now at your own

troubles. If I prove you have complained unjustly, will you consent to

retract?

_Petrarch._ You will find it very hard to convince me. If, however, you

prove me in the wrong, I will give in.

_S. Augustine._ You find that Fortune is to you too unkind.

_Petrarch_. Not too unkind; too unjust, too proud, too cruel.

_S. Augustine_. The comic poets have more than one comedy called "The

Grumbler." There are scores of them. And now you are making yourself

one of the crowd. I should rather find you in more select company. But

as this subject is so very threadbare that no one can add anything

new on it, will you allow me to offer you an old remedy for an old

complaint?

_Petrarch_. As you wish.

_S. Augustine_. Well then, has poverty yet made you endure hunger and

thirst and cold?

_Petrarch_. No, Fortune has not yet brought me to this pass.

_S. Augustine._ Yet such is the hard lot of a great many people every

day of their lives. Is it not?

_Petrarch_. Use some other remedy than this if you can, for this brings

me no relief. I am not one of those who in their own misfortunes

rejoice to behold the crowd of other wretched ones who sob around them;

and not seldom I mourn as much for the griefs of others as for my own.

_S. Augustine_. I wish no man to rejoice in witnessing the misfortunes

of others, but they ought at any rate to give him some consolation,

and teach him not to complain of his own lot. All the world cannot

possibly occupy the first and best place. How could there be any first

unless there was also a second following after? Only be thankful, you

mortal men, if you are not reduced to the last of all; and that of so

many blows of outrageous Fortune you only bear her milder strokes. For

the rest, to those who are doomed to endure the extremes of misery,

one must offer more potent remedies than you have need of whom Fortune

has wounded but a little. That which casts men down into these doleful

moods is that each one, forgetting his own condition, dreams of the

highest place, and, like every one else, as I just now pointed out,

cannot possibly attain it; then when he fails he is discontented. If

they only knew the sorrows that attend on greatness they would recoil

from that which they now pursue. Let me call as witnesses those who by

dint of toil have reached the pinnacle, and who no sooner have arrived

than they forthwith bewail the too easy accomplishment of their wish.

This truth should be familiar to every one, and especially to you, to

whom long experience has shown that the summit of rank, surrounded as

it is with trouble and anxieties, is only deserving of pity. It follows

that no earthly lot of man is free from complaint, since those who have

attained what they desire and those who have missed it alike show some

reason for discontent. The first allege they have been cheated, and the

second that they have suffered neglect.

Take Seneca's advice then, "When you see how many people are in front

of you, think also how many are behind. If you would be reconciled

with Providence and your own lot in life, think of all those you have

surpassed;" and as the same wise man says in the same place, "Set a

goal to your desires such as you cannot overleap, even if you wish."

_Petrarch._ I have long ago set such a goal to my desires, and, unless

I am mistaken, a very modest one; but in the pushing and shameless

manners of my time, what place is left for modesty, which men now call

slackness or sloth?

_S. Augustine._ Can your peace of mind be disturbed by the opinion of

the crowd, whose judgment is never true, who never call anything by its

right name? But unless my recollection is at fault, you used to look

down on their opinion.

_Petrarch._ Never, believe me, did I despise it more than I do now.

I care as much for what the crowd thinks of me as I care what I am

thought of by the beasts of the field.

_S. Augustine._ Well, then?

_Petrarch._ What raises my spleen is that having, of all my

contemporaries whom I know, the least exalted ambitions, not one

of them has encountered so many difficulties as I have in the

accomplishment of my desires. Most assuredly I never aspired to the

highest place; I call the spirit of Truth as witness who judges us,

who sees all, and who has always read my most secret thoughts. She

knows very well that whenever after the manner of men I have gone over

in my mind all the degrees and conditions of our human lot. I have

never found in the highest place that tranquillity and serenity of soul

which I place above all other goods; and for that matter, having a

horror of a life full of disquiet and care, I have ever chosen, in my

modest judgment, some middle position, and given, not lip-service, but

the homage of my heart to that truth expressed by Horace--

"Whoso with little wealth will live content,

Easy and free his days shall all be spent;

His well-built house keeps out the winter wind,

Too modest to excite an envious mind."[30]

And I admire the reasons he gives in the same Ode not less than the

sentiment itself.

"The tallest trees most fear the tempest's might,

The highest towers come down with most affright,

The loftiest hills feel first the thunder smite."

Alas! it is just the middle place that it has never been my lot to

enjoy.

_S. Augustine._ And what if that which you think is a middle position

is in truth below you? What if as a matter of fact you have for a long

while enjoyed a really middle place, enjoyed it abundantly? Nay, what

if you have in truth left the middle far behind, and are become to a

great many people a man more to be envied than despised?

_Petrarch._ Well, if they think my lot one to be envied, I think the

contrary.

_S. Augustine._ Yes, your false opinion is precisely the cause of all

your miseries, and especially of this last. As Cicero puts it, "You

must flee Charybdis, with all hands to the oars, and sails as well!"[31]

_Petrarch._ Whither can I flee? where direct my ship? In a word, what

am I to think except what I see before my eyes?

_S. Augustine._ You only see from side to side where your view is

limited. If you look behind you will discover a countless throng coming

after, and that you are somewhat nearer to the front rank than to that

in the rear, but pride and stubbornness suffer you not to turn your

gaze behind you.

_Petrarch._ Nevertheless from time to time I have done so, and have

noticed many people coming along behind. I have no cause to blush at my

condition, but I complain of having so many cares. I deplore, if I may

yet again make use of a phrase of Horace, that I must live "only from

day to day."[32] As to this restlessness of which I have suffered more

than enough, I gladly subscribe to what the same poet says in the same

place.

"What prayers are mine? O may I yet possess

The goods I have, or, if heaven pleases, less!

Let the few years that Fate may grant me still

Be all my own, not held at others' will."[33]

Always in a state of suspense, always uncertain of the future,

Fortune's favours have no attraction for me. Up to now, as you see, I

have lived always in dependence on others; it is the bitterest cup of

all. May heaven grant me some peace in what is left of my old age, and

that the mariner who has lived so long amid the stormy waves may die in

port!

_S. Augustine._ So then in this great whirlpool of human affairs, amid

so many vicissitudes, with the future all dark before you; in a word,

placed as you are at the caprice of Fortune, you will be the only one

of so many millions of mankind who shall live a life exempt from care!

Look what you are asking for, O mortal man! look what you demand! As

for that complaint you have brought forward of never having lived a

life of your own, what it really amounts to is not that you have lived

in poverty, but more or less in subservience. I admit, as you say, that

it is a thing very troublesome. However, if you look around you will

find very few men who have lived a life of their own. Those whom one

counts most happy, and for whom numbers of others live their lives,

bear witness by the constancy of their vigils and their toils that they

themselves are living for others. To quote you a striking instance,

Julius Cæsar, of whom some one has reported this true but arrogant

saying, "The human race only lives for a small number,"[34] Julius

Cæsar, after he had subdued the human race to live for himself alone,

did himself live for other people. Perhaps you will ask me for whom did

he live? and I reply, for those who slew him--for Brutus, Cimber, and

other traitorous heads of that conspiracy, for whom his inexhaustible

munificence proved too small to satisfy their rapacity.

_Petrarch_. I must admit you have brought me to my senses, and I will

never any more complain either of my obligations to others or of my

poverty.

_S. Augustine._ Complain rather of your want of wisdom, for it is this

alone that can obtain for you liberty and true riches. For the rest,

the man who quietly endures to go without the cause of those good

effects, and then makes complaint of not having them, cannot truly be

said to have any intelligent understanding of either the cause or the

effects. But now tell me what is it that makes you suffer, apart from

what we have been speaking of? Is it any weakness of health or any

secret trouble?

_Petrarch_. I confess that my body has always been a burden every time

I think of myself; but when I cast my eyes on the unwieldiness of other

people's bodies, I acknowledge that I have a fairly obedient slave. I

would to Heaven I could say as much of my soul, but I am afraid that in

it there is what is more than a match for me.

_S. Augustine_. May it please God to bring that also under the rule of

reason. But to come back to your body, of what do you complain?

_Petrarch._ Of that of which most other people also complain. I charge

it with being mortal, with implicating me in its sufferings, loading

me with its burdens, asking me to sleep when my soul is awake, and

subjecting me to other human necessities which it would be tedious to

go through.

_S. Augustine._ Calm yourself, I entreat you, and remember you are a

man. Presently your agitation will cease. If any other thing troubles

you, tell me.

_Petrarch._ Have you never heard how cruelly Fortune used me? This

stepdame, who in a single day with her ruthless hand laid low all my

hopes, all my resources, my family and home?[35]

_S. Augustine._ I see your tears are running down, and I pass on. The

present is not the time for instruction, but only for giving warning;

let, then, this simple one suffice. If you consider, in truth, not the

disasters of private families only, but the ruins also of empires from

the beginning of history, with which; you are so well acquainted; and

if you call to mind the tragedies you have read, you will not perhaps

be so sorely offended when you see your own humble roof brought to

nought along with so many palaces of kings. Now pray go on, for these

few warning words will open to you a field for long meditation.

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