Mr. HOSTY. It should be emphatically, I believe, rather than
frantically. I think this probably should be "emphatically denied."
Mr. STERN. Is this your memorandum?
Mr. HOSTY. Yes, sir.
Mr. STERN. It is signed or initialed both by you and by Mr. Bookhout.
Mr. HOSTY. Right. The procedure is that when there are two agents
involved, they both must approve it, so there can be no discrepancies.
Mr. STERN. But you dictated it.
Mr. HOSTY. I dictated it and he read it and we both approved it.
Mr. STERN. Have you been over it recently in preparation for your
testimony?
Mr. HOSTY. Yes, sir.
Mr. STERN. Is it accurate? Is there anything you would like to add to
it?
Mr. HOSTY. I think it is correct as it stands.
Mr. McCLOY. I didn't hear you repeating your testimony that he denied
ever having been in Mexico.
Mr. HOSTY. Oh, yes; he was being questioned about his activities
outside of the United States, where he had been outside of the United
States. He told Captain Fritz that he had only been to Mexico to visit
at Tijuana on the border, and then he did admit having been in Russia.
Mr. McCLOY. He only admitted to having been at Tijuana in Mexico?
Mr. HOSTY. Right.
Mr. McCLOY. Not to Mexico City.
Mr. HOSTY. Not to Mexico City; that is right.
Representative FORD. There was no recording made of this interrogation?
Mr. HOSTY. No, sir; it was notes I took. Agent Bookhout and I took
notes, and we dictated from the notes the next day.
Mr. STERN. Did you ask him any questions?
Mr. HOSTY. No; like I say, he was acting in such a hostile condition
towards us that we did not. This was Captain Fritz' interview anyway.
We were just sitting in as observers.
Mr. STERN. Did you tell Captain Fritz at this time any of the
information you had about Oswald, about his trip to Mexico, for example?
Mr. HOSTY. No.
Mr. STERN. About his being in touch with the Russian authorities
seeking a visa?
Mr. HOSTY. No.
Mr. STERN. About his previous residence in the Soviet Union?
Mr. HOSTY. Oswald himself told Captain Fritz of this. I didn't have to.
Oswald came right out and told him.
Mr. STERN. About the affair in New Orleans and his arrest there?
Mr. HOSTY. No.
Mr. STERN. Did you subsequently tell Captain Fritz?
Mr. HOSTY. No; I didn't tell Captain Fritz; no.
Mr. STERN. Was any of this information provided to the Dallas police as
far as you know?
Mr. HOSTY. I provided it to Lieutenant Revill earlier, as I pointed
out. He would have been the person I would have furnished this
information to as the head of the intelligence section. He would be the
logical and correct person to give this information to.
Mr. STERN. Was that the extent of your advice to the Dallas police?
Mr. HOSTY. Right.
Mr. McCLOY. Did you tell Chief Curry that you had a file?
Mr. HOSTY. No, sir; I haven't talked to Chief Curry in several years.
Of course I don't deal with him too much on a chief level.
Mr. STERN. Wouldn't it be difficult for Lieutenant Revill to have
gotten this information from you under the conditions that you
described, running up the stairway and the rest of it? Do you think he
heard enough of this?
Mr. HOSTY. Well, that is true, he might not have. But you see
Oswald then proceeded to tell himself, he told the police all this
information, so there was no point in me repeating it when he himself,
Oswald, had furnished it directly to the police.
Mr. McCLOY. But you did tell Revill that you had a file on Oswald?
Mr. HOSTY. No; I didn't tell him I had a file; no, sir.
Mr. McCLOY. You did not?
Mr. HOSTY. Just as I related here in the affidavit.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Hosty, I think the answer to this question is
implicit in your testimony, but I would just like to ask it directly.
Did you or anyone in the FBI to your knowledge for compensation or in
any manner whatsoever use Oswald as an informant in any way, shape or
form?
Mr. HOSTY. I have previously furnished a sworn affidavit to this
Commission to the effect that I had never seen or talked to Lee Harvey
Oswald prior to the 22d of November 1963. I had never made payments
of any kind to him, and, in addition, I had never made any attempt to
develop him as an informant or source of information. I have made a
sworn affidavit to that effect.