Representative FORD. In other words, you undoubtedly had----

Mr. FAIN. I had access to anything in our files there pertaining to

this case.

Representative FORD. You had information. For example, you were

familiar with the statement in a report that, and I quote, "Subject

allegedly told the embassy he had advised unnamed Soviet officials

that as a former Marine radar operator he would make available to them

information about his Marine Corps specialty when he became a Soviet

citizen."

Mr. FAIN. Yes, sir; that was an allegation that was made over there.

As I recall that was obtained in a check at the embassy, United States

Embassy.

(At this point in the proceedings, Mr. Dulles enters the hearing room.)

Representative FORD. Did you make any inquiry as to whether or not

that was an accurate statement alleged to have been made by him to an

embassy official?

Mr. FAIN. Mr. Carter and I asked him, all about those things. Of

course, he denied it.

Representative FORD. Did he make any specific denial of that, as you

recall?

Mr. FAIN. Yes; we asked him if he had been asked about anything

concerning his specialty while in the Marine Corps and I think he said

no, that he had not.

Representative FORD. What confuses me is, one, that he denied this to

you, but then he apparently at some prior time had told the Embassy

that he had advised unnamed Soviet officials that as a former Marine

radar operator he would make available to them information about his

Marine Corps specialty when he became a Soviet citizen.

Mr. FAIN. Yes, sir; we were aware of that, that statement. He denied

it, and he also denied that he had ever denounced his United States

citizenship, and he denied to Mr. Carter and me that he had ever

applied for Soviet citizenship specifically.

Mr. STERN. Was it your practice, Mr. Fain, to review the files on a

subject before you interviewed him?

Mr. FAIN. Yes, sir.

Mr. STERN. Can you recall whether you did that in this case?

Mr. FAIN. I certainly did, yes, sir; there were so many details and

so many allegations you had to study it long hours to get the thing

further in mind.

Mr. STERN. But you think you did that before you interviewed Oswald?

Mr. FAIN. Yes, sir.

Mr. STERN. In view of the purpose of the investigation, the interest

that you had, what was your overall evaluation of Oswald as a result of

this interview?

Mr. FAIN. Well, that was--of course, that would be calling for my

opinion, and we are interested only in getting facts on this case,

facts, and all I could say is that he seemed tense.

Mr. DULLES. He seemed tense?

Mr. FAIN. Tense, yes, sir; and drawn up. I don't know whether he was

just scared or what his situation was, but he was--he exhibited an

arrogant attitude, arrogant, cold, and inclined to be just a little

insolent.

Mr. STERN. When he did tell you something would you tend to believe

that he was telling you the truth or not? Did you form an impression of

his veracity?

Mr. FAIN. Well the information we had was that he had applied to

renounce his citizenship, and he had applied for Soviet citizenship,

and yet he denied that. It was just a flat denial and I had no way of

knowing whether he was telling the truth or not. It is a thing that you

cannot always tell. We got answers from him as set out here. He would

give you some kind of answer.

Mr. STERN. Who was your immediate superior on a case like this, not his

name, but describe his function.

Mr. FAIN. He was on the desk in Dallas, and all of these

investigations, all of my work, went across his desk. He would make the

assignments also.

Mr. STERN. Tell the Commission what you mean by "the desk," please.

Mr. FAIN. The supervisory desk in the Dallas office that handled

security-type matters, and this report would go across his desk, and

the assignments that would come to me would be made by him.

Mr. STERN. Did you discuss the Oswald case with your desk supervisor at

this time, upon the completion of this interview?

Mr. FAIN. I don't recall specifically talking to him at this time. If I

had been over there in the next few days I imagine I would have talked

to him or did talk to him. You see, I was in Fort Worth.

Mr. STERN. Yes.

Mr. FAIN. And normally I would dictate my reports, and they would go by

mail to Dallas and, of course, we were in telephonic contact, any time

anything came up of any problem nature.

Mr. STERN. Would you have discussed the case with your supervisor if

you thought that there was a particular and immediate problem?

Mr. FAIN. Oh, certainly; yes, sir.

Mr. STERN. Did you think that there was a particular and immediate

problem following your interview?

Mr. FAIN. Well, I didn't feel satisfied because of his answers there as

to why he went to Russia. He was evasive, and that was the reason I set

out a lead to have him reinterviewed.

Mr. STERN. What do you mean by that, Mr. Fain?

Mr. FAIN. To talk to him again. You see, at this time he had just come

to town and he was out there at his brother's place. He had a wife

and a little 4-month-old baby that he had brought from Russia, and

he didn't have any established place to live, and I can see how the

newspapers may have harrassed him, and it might have been, very likely

was, that he didn't want to show himself out of the house, but I felt

under the circumstances he ought to be talked to again, he ought to be

interviewed in detail about these same things and, consequently, I did

set out a lead.

Mr. STERN. What does that mean in terms of your procedures?

Mr. FAIN. In my report I just suggested that he be reinterviewed.

Mr. STERN. Is that in this report?

Mr. FAIN. That might have been my transmittal--no, it doesn't show

here. It is probably on the transmittal to the chief of the Dallas

office.

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