Mr. McCLOY. Furthermore----

Mr. BOUCK. Analysis.

Mr. McCLOY. Flowing from that the mere fact that a man or woman was a

defector, or a man is a member of a political organization doesn't in

itself embody the threat to the United States, to the President, the

person of the President of the United States.

Mr. BOUCK. Right.

Mr. McCLOY. It is only as there is some additional element that causes

you to fear that there is a potential menace that you put in that

category you have been talking about?

Mr. BOUCK. Yes, sir.

Mr. STERN. I think we might illustrate that, Mr. McCloy, by a series of

abstracts of cases that Mr. Bouck has prepared. I show you Commission

Exhibit No. 766 for identification.

Mr. BOUCK. Yes.

Mr. STERN. And would you describe that and summarize very briefly the

cases involved there which I think are intended to typify, are they

not----

Mr. BOUCK. Yes; I prepared this and the thought was that the Commission

might be interested in a couple of examples of how the PRS function has

been helpful in protection, and so three cases have been presented in

this paper.

Mr. STERN. Mr. Bouck, have you anything you would like to add, any

clarification, any amplification of the matters we have discussed this

morning?

Mr. BOUCK. I don't believe so. I think Mr. McCloy's summary probably

exceeds anything I could give, and I think it is quite good and

reflects, I believe, what we were trying to get at here.

Mr. STERN. Have you reviewed the memoranda and other exhibits that

you have identified this morning and do you have any corrections or

additions to make to those?

Mr. BOUCK. No, sir; I think they are accurate.

Mr. STERN. Mr. Chairman, I would like to request the admission of all

the exhibits that Mr. Bouck has identified for us this morning. I have

no further questions.

Mr. McCLOY. They may be admitted.

(The documents referred to, previously marked as Commission Exhibit

Nos. 760 through 766, were received in evidence.)

Mr. McCLOY. I have one more question I would like to ask you. In the

light of what you know now about the whole episode, have you come to

any conclusions as to how you ought to operate in the future other than

you did in the Dallas situation?

Mr. BOUCK. As Mr. Carswell has mentioned, of course, a great deal

of study is being conducted. I think there are a number of other

things that can be done. Great problems arise as to human rights and

constitutional rights and costs and resources and just sheer--dealing

with just sheer volumes of millions of people, and I do not feel I

would want to give final judgment as to whether we should do these

things until we have completed all of these studies, but perhaps there

will be some that will----

Mr. McCLOY. Do you at this stage have any definite ideas about any

steps that ought to be taken for the added protection of the President?

Mr. BOUCK. Well, I have quite a lot of them which are incorporated in

this study. I have been, and as I understand it, the Commission perhaps

will have the benefit of that but I have been very heavily involved

in many, many ways in this study, and as to the final conclusions, of

course, I think maybe it goes all the way to the Congress to decide the

practicality of some of this.

Mr. McCLOY. I am sure it does.

Mr. BOUCK. I just don't quite feel in a position to say that I would

want to recommend most of these things without reservation at this

time. If I might, without presuming to evade your question, if we could

delay that a little bit until we have completed this rather massive

look that we are now taking.

Mr. McCLOY. Very well. Thank you very much for your cooperation, and

very much obliged to you and the Treasury Department for helping us.

Mr. BOUCK. Thank you, sir.

Mr. McCLOY. To achieve our--perform our duties.

Thank you.

We will adjourn until 2 o'clock.

(Whereupon, at 1 p.m., the President's Commission recessed.)

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