Mr. STERN. Now of the 34 Texas cases in this 2-year period----

Mr. DULLES. Could I ask a question before you get on the Texas cases,

on this record, it indicates that about 6,000 cases were "received but

not investigated" it seems to me for the record it would be well to

have a little more on that as to why they weren't investigated, and so

forth.

I suppose in a great many cases, you couldn't find who it was. It was

an anonymous letter that came in. Would that be included?

Mr. BOUCK. Not for the cause of this, sir. I assume you are speaking of

this 7,337 cases.

Mr. DULLES. That is right.

Mr. BOUCK. In the bottom table.

Mr. DULLES. Of those 1,372 were received and investigated?

Mr. BOUCK. We receive a great deal of information on people that we do

not feel at that time intended to harm the President, but that would

bear watching. We aren't quite sure whether they will become worse in

the future, and this is----

Mr. DULLES. Is that among about the 6,000 cases I am referring to?

Mr. BOUCK. The 7,000.

Mr. DULLES. Well, there are 7,337 cases received, but not investigated.

Mr. BOUCK. These are two separate ones. The investigated cases are in

addition.

Mr. DULLES. This is in addition to that?

Mr. BOUCK. Yes.

Mr. DULLES. I see.

Mr. BOUCK. The 7,000 cases are cases that we received, we looked at,

and felt that we will file it and see if anything more happens on this,

but it doesn't warrant investigative attention until we get something

more alarming than we have.

Mr. DULLES. Who makes that judgment, is that made in your department?

Mr. BOUCK. That is made in my department by one of these five agents

that are listed in this document.

Mr. DULLES. Do you review their determination?

Mr. BOUCK. I do not review all of them. I review a percentage of their

determinations, and I am consulted on any that are borderline or that

are difficult.

Mr. STERN. Of the 34 Texas cases, almost half or 15 were reported by

Federal authorities. Is this typical of all information received by PRS

in the course of a year?

Mr. BOUCK. No, this would be typical of the investigated cases but not

typical of the entire quantity of cases received.

Mr. STERN. I see.

Representative FORD. Are the 34 listed here included in the 7,337 or

the 1,372?

Mr. BOUCK. 1,372.

Mr. STERN. Do you have a judgment, Mr. Bouck, as to the proportion of

cases coming to you from other agencies, Federal agencies, State and

local agencies, of the total number of cases you have?

Mr. BOUCK. About 90 percent of the cases generated would be other

than from agencies. The 10 percent that come from Federal and local

agencies, the majority of that come from Federal agencies. I wouldn't

know quite the percentage. But the majority of the 10 percent would be

Federal agencies.

Mr. STERN. And predominantly from any one agency?

Mr. BOUCK. Yes, predominantly from the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Mr. STERN. As to the 90 percent that is generated internally, as it

were, do you have an opinion as to how many of those arise because of

correspondence with the White House by the subject?

Mr. BOUCK. The great majority of them arise from telegrams, telephone

calls, unwelcome visitors, letters to the White House.

Mr. STERN. Unwelcome visitors at the White House?

Mr. BOUCK. Yes.

Mr. DULLES. Do you know how many cases within the 7,337 noted here,

which I understand is nationwide, were from Texas?

Mr. BOUCK. Yes. I believe we show that in the third paragraph, 115

cases were in Texas.

Mr. STERN. Yes.

Mr. BOUCK. In addition to the cases investigated. It is up in the third

paragraph from the top, right under the table, the second paragraph

under the table, sir; right where your finger is, the first line there.

Mr. DULLES. 115?

Mr. BOUCK. Yes.

Mr. DULLES. Did the name of Lee Harvey Oswald appear in your files at

any time prior to the 22d of November 1963?

Mr. BOUCK. No, sir; we had never heard of him in any context.

Mr. DULLES. His name doesn't appear at all?

Mr. BOUCK. Not as of that time. Prior to Dallas, it did not appear in

any fashion. We had no knowledge of the name.

Mr. DULLES. You had no report from the State Department or the FBI that

covered his trip to Russia or anything of that kind?

Mr. BOUCK. No, sir.

Mr. McCLOY. Or of the CIA?

Mr. BOUCK. No, sir.

Mr. STERN. Mr. Bouck, what kind of information do you look for, what

are the criteria you apply, in determining whether someone is a

potential danger to the President? What do you ask other agencies,

Federal, State, and local to be on the lookout for?

Mr. BOUCK. Our criteria is broad in general. It consists of desiring

any information that would indicate any degree of harm or potential

harm to the President, either at the present time or in the future.

Mr. STERN. Had you ever prior to Dallas had occasion to--for any part

of your activities--list criteria that you would apply in trying to

determine whether someone is a potential danger?

Mr. BOUCK. We had not had a formal written listing of criteria as such

except in this general form of desiring everything that might indicate

a possible source of harm to the safety of the President. We had some

internal breakdown of information for the processing of certain kinds

of material where the criteria were involved.

Mr. STERN. I didn't mean to restrict my question to criteria for

external sources, but those you used internally as well.

Mr. BOUCK. We had some internal, as well.

Mr. STERN. I show you now a one-page document entitled "The following

criteria are used as guides in determining whether White House mail

is to be accepted for PRS processing," which has been marked for

identification as Commission Exhibit No. 763. Can you identify that?

Mr. BOUCK. Yes, sir; this is a document that I helped draft some years

ago. It is a document I prepared for the Commission. It is a document

that was used up to and at the time of Dallas.

Mr. STERN. For what purpose?

Mr. BOUCK. For the purpose of screening White House mail. The White

House gives us a considerable quantity of mail, not all of which

we--it is desirable that we keep, and this is a guide to the agents in

determining what we should keep and what should go back to be answered

by the White House staff.

Mr. STERN. This guide is not used by the White House mailroom? This is

an internal guide for your own agents?

Mr. BOUCK. My own agents.

Mr. STERN. What instructions does the White House mailroom have as to

mail that is to be sent to you?

Mr. BOUCK. The White House mail has two general instructions: One,

we supply them with identification information on all existing cases

in which mail is concerned; that any further mail in those cases is

automatically referred to us.

Their criteria are the same as our other general criteria--that in

addition to these known cases we desire letters, telegrams, or any

other document they receive that in any way indicates any one may have

possible intention of harming the President.

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