Mr. CADIGAN. And so forth----

Mr. EISENBERG. I am not sure you understood a question I asked one or

two questions ago.

I just want to make clear here if the gun was not wrapped in a

cloth--let's assume hypothetically that the gun was not wrapped in

a cloth and was, also hypothetically, inserted into this paper bag.

Is there any absence of marks which would lead you to believe that

this hypothesis I just made couldn't be--that is, that it couldn't be

inserted, without a covering, into the paper bag without leaving more

markings than were present?

Mr. CADIGAN. No. The absence of markings to me wouldn't mean much. I

was looking for markings I could associate. The absence of marks, the

significance of them, I don't know.

Mr. EISENBERG. Now, getting back to the paper bag, 142, and the tape

thereon, just for a second, and the tape found on the, obtained from

the, TSBD on November 22, Exhibit 677, were the widths of the tapes the

same?

Mr. CADIGAN. Similar. They were not exactly the same; no.

Mr. EISENBERG. Can you explain that?

Mr. CADIGAN. Yes; the width of the tape on the paper sack, Exhibit 142,

I measured at 3 inches, and the width of the manila tape on Exhibit

677 obtained the night of November 22, I measured as 2.975. There is

twenty-five one-thousandths of an inch difference.

Mr. EISENBERG. Would that lead you to believe that they couldn't have

come from the same roll?

Mr. CADIGAN. No; certainly not.

Mr. EISENBERG. Not enough of a variation to lead to that conclusion?

Mr. CADIGAN. That is correct.

Mr. EISENBERG. How wide do these rolls come in your experience, in what

widths do they come?

Mr. CADIGAN. Normally they are supplied in, I believe, 1-, 1-1/2-, 2-,

2-1/2-, and 3-inch widths.

Mr. EISENBERG. So this was basically of a 3-inch width variety out of

several possible alternatives?

Mr. CADIGAN. Yes.

Mr. EISENBERG. Is there any other information you would like to give us

or any other testimony you would like to give us on the subject of the

origin of the paper in the 142 bag?

Mr. CADIGAN. Well, possibly the comparisons made of paper samples from

Jaggars Chiles-Stovall and from the William B. Riley Co.

Mr. EISENBERG. These are, you have mentioned two companies at which

Oswald was employed at one time?

Mr. CADIGAN. Yes.

Mr. EISENBERG. You obtained paper from these companies, did you?

Mr. CADIGAN. Yes, sir.

Mr. EISENBERG. And you matched them to see if they matched--you tested

them to see if they matched the paper in the bag 142, is that correct?

Mr. CADIGAN. Yes; that is correct.

Mr. EISENBERG. And your conclusion was what?

Mr. CADIGAN. That they were different.

Mr. EISENBERG. Yes. Anything else?

Mr. CADIGAN. That is about it.

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