Mr. CADIGAN. Oh, no; it is designed that way. Those little, you might
say, in effect, teeth, go into the paper and pull it through smoothly.
Mr. EISENBERG. If I went into Woolworths and bought a roll of gummed
tape, would it have those marks on it?
Mr. CADIGAN. No.
Mr. EISENBERG. Because it only gets the marks when you put it in the
dispensing machine that you have in commercial establishments?
Mr. CADIGAN. That is correct.
Mr. EISENBERG. Would it be common to have this type of dispensing
machine in a home, by the way?
Mr. CADIGAN. I doubt very much that you would find it in a home.
Mr. EISENBERG. Now, within a commercial establishment, are there more
than one type of dispensing machines?
Mr. CADIGAN. Oh, yes.
Mr. EISENBERG. Are there types that won't produce these lines at all?
Mr. CADIGAN. Yes. I might point out, too, that the number of lines
per inch will vary depending on the diameter of that wheel. In this
particular instance I found that there were 24-1/2 spaces, which would
be 25 lines per inch, on both.
Mr. EISENBERG. I believe that is 142, the bag you are handling, and
677, the sample?
Mr. CADIGAN. Yes; the markings on the manila tape in both 142 and 677
were the same. Now, at that time I also had----
Mr. DULLES. Could we get just before you continue there, would you
identify what 142 is and 677 is?
Mr. EISENBERG. 142 is an apparently homemade paper bag which was found
in the southeast corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD following the
assassination, and which, for the record, is a bag which may have
been used to carry this rifle, 139, which was used to commit the
assassination. 677 is a sample of paper and tape--and parenthetically,
tape was used in the construction of 142--677 is a sample of paper and
tape obtained from the Texas School Book Depository on November 22,
1963, that is, the very day of the assassination.
Mr. DULLES. Obtained by whom, by the FBI?
Mr. CADIGAN. This was obtained by the Dallas police.