I spent the morning at H.'s. He too attacked me about the Canal.

'Do entreat,' he said, 'your public men to overrule their ill-conditioned

colleague. I told you a year ago, the mischief that you were doing, but I

do not think that you believed me. You may find too late that I was

right.'

I repeated to him Ellice's opinion that the commerce of England would not

use the canal.

'I have heard that,' he said, 'from Ellice himself, but I differ from

him. I agree with him, indeed, that your sailing vessels will not use the

canal, but I believe that a few years hence you will have no purely

sailing vessels, except for the small coasting trade. Every large ship

will have a propeller; and with propellers, to be employed occasionally,

and sails for ordinary use, the Mediterranean and the Red Sea are very

manageable. I believe that the canal will be useful, and particularly

to you. But whatever be the real merits of the scheme, for God's sake let

it be tried. Do not treat us like children, and say, "We know better what

is good for you than you do yourselves. You shall not make your canal

because you would lose money by it."'

'What did you hear,' I said, 'about the Congress?'

'I heard,' he answered, 'that Clarendon was very good, and was the best,

and that Walewski was very bad, and was the worst.'

'Can you tell me,' I said, 'the real history of the Tripartite Treaty?'

'I can,' he answered. 'There was an old engagement between the three

Powers, entered into last spring, that if they succeeded in the war, they

would unite to force Russia to perform any conditions to which she might

submit.

'This engagement had been allowed to sleep; I will not say that it was

forgotten, but no one seemed disposed to revert to it. But after the

twenty-second Protocol, when Piedmont was allowed to threaten Austria,

and neither England nor France defended her, Buol got alarmed. He feared

that Austria might be left exposed to the vengeance of Russia on the

north and east, and to that of the Italian Liberals on the South. An

alliance with France and England, though only for a specified purpose, at

least would relieve Austria from the appearance of insulation. She would

be able to talk of the two greatest Powers in Europe as her allies, and

would thus acquire a moral force which might save her from attack. He

recalled, therefore, the old engagement to the recollection of Clarendon

and Louis Napoleon, and summoned them to fulfil it. I do not believe that

either of them was pleased. But the engagement was formal, and its

performance, though open to misconstruction, and intended by Austria to

be misconstrued, was attended by some advantages, though different ones,

to France and to England. So both your Government and ours complied.'

_Tuesday, May 20_.--The Tocquevilles and Rivet drank tea with us.

I mentioned to Tocqueville the subject of my conversations with Cousin

and H.

'I agree with Cousin,' he said. 'The attempt to turn our national

activity into speculation and commerce has often been made, but has never

had any permanent success. The men who make these sudden fortunes are not

happy, for they are always suspected of _friponnerie_, and the Government

to which they belong is suspected of _friponnerie_. Still less happy are

those who have attempted to make them, and have failed. And those who

have not been able even to make the attempt are envious and sulky. So

that the whole world becomes suspicious and dissatisfied.

'And even if it were universal, mere material prosperity is not enough

for us. Our Government must give us something more: must gratify our

ambition, or, at least, our vanity.'

'The Government,' said Rivet, 'has been making a desperate plunge in

order to escape from the accusation of _friponnerie_. It has denounced in

the "Moniteur" the _faiseurs_; it has dismissed a poor _aide-de-camp_ of

Jérôme's for doing what everybody has been doing ever since the _coup

d'état_. When Ponsard's comedy, which was known to be a furious satire on

the _agioteurs_, was first played, Louis Napoleon took the whole

orchestra and pit stalls, and filled them with people instructed to

applaud every allusion to the _faiseurs_. And he himself stood in his

box, his body almost out of it, clapping most energetically every attack

on them.'

'At the same time,' I said, 'has he not forced the Orleans Company and

the Lyons Company to buy the Grand Central at much more than its worth?

And was not that done in order to enable certain _faiseurs_ to realise

their gains?'

'He has forced the Orleans Company,' said Rivet, 'to buy up, or rather to

amalgamate the Grand Central; but I will not say at more than its value.

The amount to be paid is to depend on the comparative earnings of the

different lines, for two years before and two years after the purchase.'

'But,' I said, 'is it not true, first, that the Orleans Company was

unwilling to make the purchase? and, secondly, that thereupon the Grand

Central shares rose much in the market?'

'Both these facts,' answered Rivet, 'are true.'

'Do you believe,' I said to Tocqueville, 'H.'s history of the Tripartite

Treaty?'

'I do,' he answered. 'I do not think that at the time when it was made we

liked it. It suited you, who wish to preserve the _statu quo_ in Europe,

which keeps us your inferiors, or, at least, not your superiors. _You_

have nothing to gain by a change. We have. The _statu quo_ does not suit

us. The Tripartite Treaty is a sort of chain--not a heavy one, or a

strong one--but one which we should not have put on if we could have

avoided it.'

'Do you agree,' I asked Tocqueville, 'with Lafosse, Cousin, and H. as to

the effect in Paris of our opposition to the Suez Canal?'

'I agree,' he answered, 'in every word that they have said. There is

nothing that has done you so much mischief in France, and indeed in

Europe.

'I am no engineer; I should be sorry to pronounce a decided opinion as to

the feasibility or the utility of the canal; but your opposition makes us

believe that it is practicable.'

'Those among us,' I answered, 'who fear it, sometimes found their fear on

grounds unconnected with its practicability. They say that it is a

political, not a commercial, scheme. That the object is to give to French

engineers and French shareholders a strip of land separating Egypt from

Syria, and increasing the French interest in Egypt.'

'What is the value,' answered Tocqueville, 'of a strip of land in the

desert where no one can live? And why are the shareholders to be French?

The Greeks, the Syrians, the Dalmatians, the Italians, and the Sicilians

are the people who will use the canal, if anybody uses it. They will form

the bulk of the shareholders, if shareholders there are.

'My strong suspicion is, that if you had not opposed it, there never

would have been any shareholders, and that if you now withdraw your

opposition, and let the scheme go on until calls are made, the

subscribers, who are ready enough with their names as patriotic

manifestations against you as long as no money is to be paid, will

withdraw _en masse_ from an undertaking which, at the very best, is a

most hazardous one.

'As to our influence in Egypt, your journal shows that it is a pet

project of the Viceroy. He hopes to get money and fame from it. You

_imitate_ both his covetousness and his vanity, and throw him for support

upon us.'

_Paris, May_ 21--The Tocquevilles and Chrzanowski[1] drank tea with us.

We talked of the French iron floating batteries.

'I saw one at Cherbourg,' said Tocqueville, 'and talked much with her

commander. He was not in good spirits about his vessel, and feared some

great disaster. However, she did well at Kinburn.'

'She suffered little at Kinburn,' said Chrzanowski, 'because she ventured

little. She did not approach the batteries nearer than 600 metres. At

that distance there is little risk and little service. To knock down a

wall two metres thick from a distance of 600 metres would require at

least 300 blows. How far her own iron sides would have withstood at that

distance the fire of heavy guns I will not attempt to say, as I never saw

her. The best material to resist shot is lead. It contracts over the ball

and crushes it.'

'Kinburn, however,' said Tocqueville, 'surrendered to our floating

batteries.'

'Kinburn surrendered,' said Chrzanowski, 'because you landed 10,000 men,

and occupied the isthmus which connects Kinburn with the main land. The

garrison saw that they were invested, and had no hope of relief. They

were not Quixotic enough, or heroic enough, to prolong a hopeless

resistance. Scarcely any garrison does so.'

We talked of Malta; and I said that Malta was the only great

fortification which I had seen totally unprovided with earth-works.

'The stone,' said Chrzanowski, 'is soft and will not splinter.'

'I was struck,' I said, 'with the lightness of the armament; the largest

guns that I saw, except some recently placed in Fort St. Elmo, were

twenty-four pounders.'

'For land defence,' he answered, 'twenty-four pounders are serviceable

guns. They are manageable and act with great effect within the short

distance within which they are generally used. It is against ships that

large guns are wanted. A very large ball or shell is wasted on the

trenches, but may sink a ship. The great strength of the land defences of

Malta arises from the nature of the ground on which Valetta and Floriana

are built, indeed of which the whole island consists. It is a rock

generally bare or covered with only a few inches of earth. Approaches

could not be dug in it. It would be necessary to bring earth or sand in

ships, and to make the trenches with sand-bags or gabions.'

I asked him if he had read Louis Napoleon's orders to Canrobert,

published in Bazancourt's book?

'I have,' he answered. 'They show a depth of ignorance and a depth of

conceit, compared to which even Thiers is modest and skilful. Canrobert

is not a great general, but he is not a man to whom a civilian, who

never saw a shot fired, ought to give lectures on what he calls "the

great principles" or "the absolute principles of war." He seems to have

taken the correspondence between Napoleon and Joseph for his model,

forgetting that Canrobert is to him what Napoleon was to Joseph. Then he

applies his principles as absurdly as he enunciates them. Thus he orders

Canrobert to send a fleet carrying 25,000 men to the breach at Aboutcha,

to land 3,000 of them, to send them three leagues up the country, and not

to land any more, until those first sent have established themselves

beyond the defile of Agen. Of course those 3,000 men would be useless if

the enemy were _not_ in force, or destroyed if they _were_ in force. To

send on a small body and not to support them is the grossest of faults.

It is the fault which you committed at the Redan, when the men who had

got on to the works were left by you for an hour unsupported, instead of

reinforcements being poured in after them as quickly as they could be

sent.

'In fact,' he continued, 'the horrible and mutual blunders of that

campaign arose from its being managed by the two Emperors from Paris and

from St. Petersburg, Nicholas and Alexander were our best friends. Louis

Napoleon was our worst enemy.

'There is nothing which ought to be so much left to the discretion of

those on the spot as war. Even a commander-in-chief actually present in a

field of battle can do little after the action, if it be really a great

one, has once begun.

'If we suppose 80,000 men to be engaged on each side, each line will

extend at least three miles. Supposing the general to be in the centre,

it will take an _aide-de-camp_ ten minutes to gallop to him from one of

the wings, and ten minutes to gallop back. But in twenty minutes all may

be altered.'

[Footnote 1: 'Chrzanowski has passed thirty years fighting against or for

the Russians. He began military life in 1811 as a sous lieutenant of

artillery in the Polish corps which was attached to the French army. With

that army he served during the march to Moscow, and the retreat. At the

peace, what remained of his corps became a part of the army of the

kingdom of Poland. He had attained the rank of major in that army when

the insurrection on the accession of Nicholas broke out. About one

hundred officers belonging to the staff of the properly Russian army were

implicated, or supposed to be implicated, in that insurrection, and were

dismissed, and their places were supplied from the army of the kingdom of

Poland. Among those so transferred to the Russian army was Chrzanowski.

He was attached to the staff of Wittgenstein, and afterwards of Marshal

Diebitsch, in the Turkish campaigns of 1828 and 1829. In 1830 he took

part with his countrymen in the insurrection against the Muscovites, and

quitted Poland when it was finally absorbed in the Russian Empire. A few

years after a quarrel was brewing between England and Russia. Muscovite

agents were stirring up Persia and Affghanistan against us, and it was

thought that we might have to oppose them on the shores of the Black Sea.

Chrzanowski was attached to the British Embassy at Constantinople and was

employed for some years in ascertaining what assistance Turkey, both in

Europe and in Asia, could afford to us. In 1849 he was selected by

Charles Albert to command the army of the kingdom of Sardinia.

'That army was constituted on the Prussian system, which makes every man

serve, and no man a soldier. It was, in fact, a militia. The men were

enlisted for only fourteen months, at the end of that time they were sent

home, and were recalled when they were wanted, having forgotten their

military training and acquired the habits of cottiers and artisans. They

had scarcely any officers, or even _sous_ officers, that knew anything of

their business. The drill sergeants required to be drilled. The generals,

and indeed the greater part of the officers, were divided into hostile

factions--Absolutists, Rouges, Constitutional Liberals, and even

Austrians--for at that time, in the exaggerated terror occasioned by the

revolutions of 1848, Austria and Russia were looked up to by the greater

part of the noblesse of the Continent as the supporters of order against

Mazzini, Kossuth, Ledru Rollin, and Palmerston. The Absolutists and the

Austrians made common cause, whereas the Rouges or Mazzinists were

bitterest against the Constitutional Liberals. Such an army, even if

there had been no treason, could not have withstood a disciplined enemy.

When it fell a victim to its own defects, and to the treachery of

Ramorino, Chrzanowski retired to Paris.'--(_Extracted from Mr. Senior's

article in the 'North British Review.'_)

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