There is also in pencil----

Mr. JENNER. Its significance is that it took you out of the home.

Mrs. PAINE. That is its significance, yes. That is the only reason it

is related. There is also a penciled note at the bottom of the month

that says, "Planned Parent," arrow up, arrow down, meaning this week or

next visit the Planned Parenthood Clinic, with Marina, for Marina.

This brings us to December.

Mr. JENNER. Excuse me, that elicits a little curiosity on my part.

Mrs. PAINE. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. Or interest, rather, not just bare curiosity, pertinent

curiosity, should I put it that way. What was the purpose of that

visit? I am acquainted with planned parenthood society. What was the

purpose of the visit? Was she concerned about having more children?

Mrs. PAINE. That is exactly it.

Mr. JENNER. Would you relate that and your conversations with her on

that score?

Mrs. PAINE. Yes. I might go back and say that in March when she first

mentioned to me she was expecting a child and we talked about birth

control, at that time I also said in March that I would be glad to go

with her after the birth of the baby to the Planned Parenthood Clinic

to get advice and necessary help, so that she could prevent further

conceptions if she wished to.

Mr. JENNER. Was she concerned about the ability, for example, I am just

casting about for a reason to stimulate your recollection, the ability

of Lee to support a family of additional children, a larger family?

Mrs. PAINE. I recall her commenting, and this most likely in the fall,

that Lee had said to her, have as many children as she wanted, but her

own feeling was that it is difficult to raise two, and especially as

they didn't have a great deal of money, that two would be a good size

family. We also discussed the differing attitudes between Americans and

Russians on what is a large family. Two is considered quite a large

family, two or three in Russia, where both parents normally work, and

it is difficult to support a very large family.

Mr. JENNER. And did you keep the appointment with Planned Parenthood?

Mrs. PAINE. No.

Mr. JENNER. Did you ever attend with her a Planned Parenthood meeting

or session, visit?

Mrs. PAINE. Her husband was killed before it was time to go.

Mr. JENNER. That is, Lee Oswald was?

Mrs. PAINE. One had to wait until at least 6 weeks after the birth of

the baby before going, or 5 or 6 weeks.

Mr. JENNER. Go ahead.

Mrs. PAINE. I go on to December.

There are two notations, both written down in advance of this time,

and both notes indicating when to go to a clinic, and neither of these

appointments was kept.

There is a notation on the 3d of December, "Vine Clinic, Bay 12 noon."

The Vine Street Clinic was a well baby clinic in Dallas.

Mr. JENNER. What do you mean "well baby"?

Mrs. PAINE. That is a clinic where any mother can bring children for

inoculations, or preventive health measures. I think I have already

mentioned a previous notation about the Vine Clinic on November 5. I

might have skipped that.

Mr. JENNER. I think you did.

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