Mr. JENNER. Its significance is that it took you out of the home.
Mrs. PAINE. That is its significance, yes. That is the only reason it
is related. There is also a penciled note at the bottom of the month
that says, "Planned Parent," arrow up, arrow down, meaning this week or
next visit the Planned Parenthood Clinic, with Marina, for Marina.
This brings us to December.
Mr. JENNER. Excuse me, that elicits a little curiosity on my part.
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Or interest, rather, not just bare curiosity, pertinent
curiosity, should I put it that way. What was the purpose of that
visit? I am acquainted with planned parenthood society. What was the
purpose of the visit? Was she concerned about having more children?
Mrs. PAINE. That is exactly it.
Mr. JENNER. Would you relate that and your conversations with her on
that score?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes. I might go back and say that in March when she first
mentioned to me she was expecting a child and we talked about birth
control, at that time I also said in March that I would be glad to go
with her after the birth of the baby to the Planned Parenthood Clinic
to get advice and necessary help, so that she could prevent further
conceptions if she wished to.
Mr. JENNER. Was she concerned about the ability, for example, I am just
casting about for a reason to stimulate your recollection, the ability
of Lee to support a family of additional children, a larger family?
Mrs. PAINE. I recall her commenting, and this most likely in the fall,
that Lee had said to her, have as many children as she wanted, but her
own feeling was that it is difficult to raise two, and especially as
they didn't have a great deal of money, that two would be a good size
family. We also discussed the differing attitudes between Americans and
Russians on what is a large family. Two is considered quite a large
family, two or three in Russia, where both parents normally work, and
it is difficult to support a very large family.
Mr. JENNER. And did you keep the appointment with Planned Parenthood?
Mrs. PAINE. No.
Mr. JENNER. Did you ever attend with her a Planned Parenthood meeting
or session, visit?
Mrs. PAINE. Her husband was killed before it was time to go.
Mr. JENNER. That is, Lee Oswald was?
Mrs. PAINE. One had to wait until at least 6 weeks after the birth of
the baby before going, or 5 or 6 weeks.
Mr. JENNER. Go ahead.
Mrs. PAINE. I go on to December.
There are two notations, both written down in advance of this time,
and both notes indicating when to go to a clinic, and neither of these
appointments was kept.
There is a notation on the 3d of December, "Vine Clinic, Bay 12 noon."
The Vine Street Clinic was a well baby clinic in Dallas.
Mr. JENNER. What do you mean "well baby"?
Mrs. PAINE. That is a clinic where any mother can bring children for
inoculations, or preventive health measures. I think I have already
mentioned a previous notation about the Vine Clinic on November 5. I
might have skipped that.
Mr. JENNER. I think you did.