Mr. JENNER. The next one relating to the Oswalds.
Mrs. PAINE. Right, is on May 10 going over to the 11th where in New
Orleans and it means these were the days we were going to New Orleans.
Mr. JENNER. And you have testified about that entry and that event?
Mrs. PAINE. I have.
Mr. JENNER. Any other entries on the May calendar relating to the
Oswalds?
Mrs. PAINE. No.
Mr. JENNER. All right; now drop down to June, please.
Mrs. PAINE. No entries relating to the Oswalds in June.
Mr. JENNER. Turn the page and go to the calendar for July.
Mrs. PAINE. I see an entry on July 17 which says, "Marina birthday."
This was written either before or after I did know in the spring that
her birthday was in July. I am not certain I have got it down on the
right date, and that is all.
Mr. JENNER. Drop down then to the calendar for August. Are there any
entries relating to the Oswalds on that date?
Mrs. PAINE. No.
Mr. JENNER. Turn the page. We have now reached the calendar for
September. Are there any entries relating to the Oswalds?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Would you identify them, please?
Mrs. PAINE. On September 23 there is an entry, "A.M. left N.O." meaning
New Orleans.
Mr. JENNER. That is an entry of your having departed from New Orleans
to go back to----
Mrs. PAINE. And this was written shortly after that event.
Mr. JENNER. To go back to Texas?
Mrs. PAINE. On the 24th is written, "Home arrived 1:30 p.m., from N.O."
meaning New Orleans.
Mr. JENNER. When was that entry made?
Mrs. PAINE. These were both made after our arrival back.
Mr. JENNER. But shortly afterwards?
Mrs. PAINE. Very shortly.
Mr. JENNER. Did you say you had a luncheon engagement?
Mrs. PAINE. No.
Mr. JENNER. Would you like to suspend, and we have lunch and then come
back?
Mrs. PAINE. Sure.
Mr. JENNER. It is now 1 o'clock. We will be back at 2.
Could you finish this calendar?
Mrs. PAINE. We have finished September. We are up to October 1963.
There is an entry on Friday the 4th that says, "Gave blood" and that
has been referred to in testimony previously.
Mr. JENNER. That was in connection with Marina's entry into Parkland
Hospital for the birth of her child?
Mrs. PAINE. That is correct. Crossed out on the 7th of October is "Lee
birthday?" On the 18th of October appears an entry "Lee birthday."
Mr. JENNER. You had it in the wrong place initially?
Mrs. PAINE. That is right.
Mr. JENNER. And then you put it in the right place eventually?
Mrs. PAINE. That is right.
Mr. JENNER. Is that correct?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Then on the 11th there is a notation "Marina appointment PMH" Parkland
Memorial Hospital, "8 a.m." This was our first appointment as I recall,
when we applied for care. There is an entry on October 15, "Work L
start." This was a mistaken entry and it is crossed out, written down
after he called to say he had received work, he didn't actually start
working until the 16th, and I have written on the 16th, "Lee work
start," and also "HOS" for hospital, and "10:30 a.m." That would be
Parkland. I would be certain it was.
Mr. JENNER. Were those entries made contemporaneously with the
occurrence of the events they seek to record?
Mrs. PAINE. All except the corrected, "Lee work start," which was made
after the assassination, when I realized he didn't start work on the
same day that he received the acceptance.
Mr. JENNER. How soon after the assassination did you make that
corrected entry?
Mrs. PAINE. Quite soon I'd say. I was being asked each day by many
people when did he start to work, and when I put together the necessary
sequence of events of having been at coffee at my neighbors, following
by his applying, following by his starting, it had to be on the 16th
that he had started. Then on the 20th of October is a notation, one
word in Russian which says "she was born." It is followed by "10:41
p.m., 6 pounds 15 ounces."
Mr. JENNER. And that refers to Marina's child Rachel?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
On October 22 is a notation, "Baby come home noon" or "came home". That
means exactly what it says.
Mr. JENNER. And was it entered contemporaneously with the event?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes; it was.
Mr. JENNER. The entry of the baby's birth, was that entered
contemporaneously with the event?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes; right after.
Mr. JENNER. Let me say at this moment this calendar, you employed it
sometimes as a diary entry, sometimes as prospective appointments, and
sometimes to record past events after they had occurred?
Mrs. PAINE. That is right.
On the 29th of October appears the entry, "Dal" short for Dallas
"Junie" she had a clinic appointment.
Mr. JENNER. That is the child of Lee Harvey, Lee and Marina Oswald?
Mrs. PAINE. The older daughter.
Mr. JENNER. Now, you have turned the page to the calendar for November.
Mrs. PAINE. That is right. You asked me at some time during my
testimony was I away during the weekend for any length of time other
than to go to the grocery store. I had forgotten but I see here a
doctor appointment, "Dr. Liebes," on Saturday would have been made the
day before, meaning the child is sick, or that morning, and it means
that I was away for an hour and 15 minutes or an hour and a half.
Mr. JENNER. What day is this?
Mrs. PAINE. On Saturday, the 2d of November.
Mr. JENNER. This is the weekend as to which you had some difficulty
recalling whether Lee actually visited your home?
Mrs. PAINE. Beginning Friday or beginning Saturday, or possibly he
wasn't out.
Mr. JENNER. You recall that the FBI interviewed you on Friday, November
1.
Mrs. PAINE. That is right.
Mr. JENNER. And do you have an entry to that effect?
Mrs. PAINE. No, I did not mark that down.
Mr. JENNER. Is it your recollection that Lee, if he didn't visit or
come to your home on the 1st, that he did come on the 2d?
Mrs. PAINE. I have no clear recollection.
Then there is an entry on November 6, "9:30 dental clinic Marina", it
means exactly that. We took her to a dental clinic to get dental care.
Mr. JENNER. And that was probably an entry made in advance to remind
you that she had a dental appointment?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
There is an entry on November 11, "Veterans Day." I have already
referred to the fact that I was away from 9 or so in the morning until
about 2 in the afternoon and this was a day that Lee was at home or at
the Fifth Street address at my home.
Mr. JENNER. What date is this?
Mrs. PAINE. Veterans Day, the 11th. It was a Monday.
Mr. JENNER. It is a Monday. And he was at home?
Mrs. PAINE. He was at home that day, and I was away from about 9 in the
morning.
Mr. JENNER. Excuse me so we don't get the record confused as to what
home means.
He was at your home?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes. There is an entry on the 14th of November, "8 a.m.
June Oswald." This I recall to be a reference to taking her to a TB
clinic. There was a slight suspicion that she might have been exposed
to TB, but this is followed by an entry on the 21st, "Checked TB test"
and at that time it was clearly negative. She did not have tuberculosis.
In the same connection, there is an entry on the 18th of November,
"1 o'clock TB children's clinic", abbreviation of children's, and I
would judge we didn't go all of those times. One of those probably was
changed.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recall that it was but one TB examination visit?
Mrs. PAINE. There were two visits. We went and they scratched the skin
to apply the test. Then you go back to have it read. And she also had
X-rays taken.
Mr. JENNER. Could those double entries indicate that?
Mrs. PAINE. Well, there were three entries. She only went twice.
Mr. JENNER. I see. Is it possible you might have gone three times?
Mrs. PAINE. It is possible.
Mr. JENNER. All right.
Have you identified all three entries now?
Mrs. PAINE. I have.
There is an entry on the 20th of November, "Marina 10 a.m. dental
clinic" which is the second dental clinic reference.