Mr. JENNER. Now----

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't even know when they came.

Mr. JENNER. Had you heard anything about them at all, that he had been

in Russia?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Before?

Mr. JENNER. Before, and then had married her, and come back, he

attempted to defect?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; nothing at all--in spite that it was in some

press somewhere--I believe it was printed.

Mr. JENNER. But you didn't see it?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Never saw it. Never had no idea.

Mr. JENNER. Had there been any discussion among you people, any of

you--Bouhe, Clark, and Meller, Voshinins, Mamantov, Gravitis, Dymitruk,

Raigorodsky----

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is a character--Dymitruk was also imported

recently. I think after we were there.

Mr. JENNER. What do you mean imported?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I mean he arrived--I call him imported. He was

really a sad sack.

Mr. JENNER. He was the husband of Lydia Dymitruk?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. I will ask you about her.

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. But I know very little about them.

Mr. JENNER. It may be important to us that you don't. But the part I

want to emphasize here is--if it is the truth--I don't want to put any

words in your mouth--that you had no advance notice that either of

these people were coming, and you knew nothing whatsoever about them,

never heard anything?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Absolutely.

Mr. JENNER. And was that generally true of all these people?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. From what we know; yes. I don't think anybody

knew anything at all. All of a sudden they arrived on the horizon. And,

actually, who discovered them for the first time, I don't even know

that.

Mr. JENNER. All right.

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I cannot even tell. I would like to know,

myself, now, how it came about.

Mr. JENNER. They were brought to your attention?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. And your recollection is it was George Bouhe?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. My recollection is that he finally--we were

sort of ashamed of ourselves that we still didn't meet her, and we

still didn't do anything, you know, for that girl. So, finally--I don't

remember how, but either we drove, or whether they brought her to us

for the first time. That is how it happened.

Mr. JENNER. And this was in the late summer of 1962?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. And I told him, Bouhe, at that particular

time, we were financially not very well off, and I could not contribute

any money, but I had time and a car, and I could take the baby to the

clinic, and I could take her with her teeth, and anything of that sort

I would be glad to do.

Mr. JENNER. We might digress a moment. In the summer of 1962 you and

your husband were not as financially affluent as you had been?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, we were draining pretty well, because for

a year we didn't make any money, on our trip.

Mr. JENNER. I am not criticizing. All I am doing is seeking the facts.

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes, yes.

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