Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I have a definite recollection of that. I do not
recall in exact words how it was said. But either one of them told me
that--that it was Marina who wanted to come to the States, and made him
go to the--back to the United States Embassy, and ask for his passport.
And I remember very distinctly what he told me, that he illegally
took a train from Minsk to Moscow, because being a foreigner, he was
not supposed to leave town without notifying the police. He did that
illegally, and went to Moscow, and presented himself at the United
States Embassy.
Mr. JENNER. Did it come to your attention, or did he ever say to you
that--even before he was married, that he had determined to return to
the United States, and had taken some steps to do so?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; I don't recall any of that.
Mr. JENNER. Your distinct recollection, however, is that she did tell
you that she desired to come to the United States, and she pressed him
to do so?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; and possibly he was disgusted by that time
also, because he was the fellow who needed attention, he was a new
fellow in Minsk, a new American, so they were all interested in him.
And then they lost interest in him eventually. So he became nothing
again. So he got disgusted with it. And Marina told him, "Let's go back
to the States, and you take me to the States." Now, what is not clear
to me--and I never inquired into it, because I was not particularly
interested--how she got the permission from the Soviet Government to
leave. That I don't know.
Mr. JENNER. You never discussed that with her?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Never discussed that. Somehow I was not
interested to ask her that question. I should have, possibly.
Mr. JENNER. Did you ever ask him about it?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Never asked him this question.