Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. You know, he was very humble--with me he was
very humble. If somebody expressed an interest in him, he blossomed,
absolutely blossomed. If you asked him some questions about him, he was
just out of this world. That was more or less the reason that I think
he liked me very much.
Mr. JENNER. Yes; he did. It is so reported, and Marina has so said.
Well, that first visit didn't give you any opportunity to observe the
relations between Marina and Lee, I assume?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I already noticed then that the couple--that they
were not getting along, right away.
Mr. JENNER. What made you have that impression?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, there was a strained relationship there.
You could feel that. And, you know how it is--you can see that the
couple--that they are not very happy. You could feel that. And he was
not particularly nice with her. He didn't kiss her. It wasn't a loving
husband who would come home and smile and kiss his wife, and so on and
so forth. He was just indifferent with her. He was more interested in
talking to me than to her. That type of attitude.
Mr. JENNER. But you did notice throughout all your acquaintance with
him that he blossomed when you paid attention to him, let us say?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Exactly.
Mr. JENNER. You drew him into conversation or situations--especially
when you asked something about him?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; exactly. I think that is his main
characteristic. He wanted people to be interested in him, not in
Marina. And she remained quite often in the background.
Later on, even in conversation she would remain in the background, and
he would do the talking.
Mr. JENNER. Did he have an arrogant attitude?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; with me he has never been arrogant. Even when
we came to the incident, you know, when we took the baby away from him,
and Marina away from him later--you know that?
Mr. JENNER. I want to get that in sequence. But you did it yourself,
did you?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. My wife and I; yes.
Mr. JENNER. Now, why do you not just go along and tell me as things
develop. And how attitudes changed, and everything.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, then we started getting reports, you know,
from George Bouhe and the Clarks about them. We didn't see them very
often.
Mr. JENNER. Please, I don't want you to say you didn't see them very
often. Maybe you didn't.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. I want to know how this developed.