Mr. JENNER. You are a man--I will put it this way----

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I hope so.

Mr. JENNER. You like to have fun?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. There has been some suggestion that maybe you could be a

little more serious-minded?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. It certainly has been suggested.

Mr. JENNER. It has even been said you might grow up a little bit?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. But you are fun-loving?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; that is right. That I am. Well, I don't

believe, you know, in leading a life as if you were half dead. Might as

well enjoy it, your life, to the fullest extent.

Mr. JENNER. I am trying to paint a picture here, Mr. De Mohrenschildt,

of the milieu or background in Dallas when you first met the Oswalds,

what kind of a community it was.

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I understand.

Mr. JENNER. How you moved around in it, and what part you played in it,

and what part your wife played in it. I gather that the community of

which you speak, the people of Russian derivation, were close, you saw

a good deal of them?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; it is close because there are not many. It

is not like New York--although in New York I know also thousands of

Russians, and in Philadelphia, and so on, and so forth. But mainly

in Dallas there are only maybe, as you know, 30 families, maybe 25

families, all in all. So they are a little bit closer together. And a

very pleasant relationship--because they are all good people--and with

a few exceptions I think we all like each other, and used to get along

very well, until Oswald appeared on the horizon.

Mr. JENNER. All right. I want to get to that.

I want this to be as spontaneous on your part as possible, rather than

coming by any suggestion from me. Would you try and put in your own

words this Russian community as it was when Oswald and Marina came to

the Dallas area, Fort Worth, in June of 1962--without involving them

now. What was the milieu and the background of the situation?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, a purely social group, a little bit divided

by classes. You see what I mean?

Mr. JENNER. No; I don't.

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. There was a little differentiation in classes

there.

Mr. JENNER. Go ahead and tell us about it.

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. In other words, people with good education and

a little bit more money rather were together, and it is not so much a

question of money as a question of good education, and of background.

And Bouhe comes from an excellent family. This Gali Clark, of course,

comes from a No. 1 family of Russia. Paul Raigorodsky comes from an

excellent family, excellent education. Those were the people with whom

we were very close.

Mr. JENNER. Was there a man by the name of Zavoico?

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