TESTIMONY OF GEORGE S. DE MOHRENSCHILDT RESUMED

The proceeding reconvened at 2 p.m.

Mr. JENNER. On the record.

Before we start on the next phase of your life, I would like to go back

a minute to your father.

You left there about 1931 or 1932?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; but I came back many times.

Mr. JENNER. You came back to see him?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; almost every summer vacation.

Mr. JENNER. Now, what happened to your father, with particular

reference to World War II?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. He was living in Wilno, the same town that I went

to school in, during the war, and I arranged for his visa to come to

the United States at the time.

Mr. JENNER. Now, is this at a time when you were in this country?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I was in this country, and I knew that--this

was before the outbreak of the war. I arranged for the visa to come to

America, and he did not take advantage of it.

Mr. JENNER. That invasion was in September of 1939.

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. 1939; yes.

Mr. JENNER. And you made these arrangements before September 1939?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Before September 1939. And instead of that, you

know, he did not take advantage of those arrangements. Maybe he was too

old, decided not to come to the United States. And then there was the

German invasion of Poland and the Russian invasion on the other, and he

happened to be in the Russian part of Poland, and naturally went into

hiding.

Mr. JENNER. Excuse me. You mean Russian part in the sense that the

Russians invaded Poland?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. To meet the Germans who were invading Poland from the other

side?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. So he then became engulfed by the Russians?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right. He became engulfed in advance of

the Russian Army and had to go into hiding because he had a sentence

of life exile to Siberia against him. And at that time the Germans and

the Russians were not at war yet, so the Russians and the Germans made

an agreement that all the people of German or Baltic or Swedish origin

could go to Germany, and they could declare themselves openly and go to

a special German commission set up for that effect in various towns.

Mr. JENNER. You say declare themselves openly. What do you mean by that?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Declare themselves that they they are willing to

go and live in Germany, instead of living in Russia.

Mr. JENNER. Declare allegiance to the German Government?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right--declare allegiance to the German

Government, and declare themselves Volkdeutsche, which means of

Germanic origin. Russia had many millions of people of that type, an

enormous German colony. So the Germans did it in order to get all those

Germans from the Volga Province into their own country. And all the

other people, like my father. And he declared himself willing to go to

Germany, and the Germans took him into Germany. He would rather be with

the Germans than with the Communists, and spent the rest of his life----

Mr. JENNER. Was your father still anti-Communist?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; very strongly anti-Communist----exceedingly

strongly anti-Communist, almost fanatically so. Naturally, he had the

sentence against him. And then he spent the rest of his life in Germany

and was killed at the end of the war in an air raid, as far as we

know--some air raid hit that place where he lived.

Mr. JENNER. Do you know what town it was?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; I don't know the town, but it is an old

castle in Oldenburg. It is near the Danish border. My brother is going

to go right now there to visit his tomb, because neither of us had the

time to go and see that place. But he is in Europe now, and he will go

and see the place where he was buried.

Eventually, we received some of his papers and documents and letters

through some German friends who stayed there with him.

Mr. JENNER. Now, I take it he was--we can at least fairly say that he

had sympathies, or was sympathetic with the German cause?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; I remember we exchanged letters with him

during the war through some friends in Argentina and in Japan, before

Japan got into the war. My father wrote me a letter in which he said,

"George, the Nazis are no good, and Germany is going to lose the war,

but I prefer to be in Germany than in Soviet Russia. At least I am free

and nobody is bothering me."

It was the policy of the Germans to protect the people who had some

positions in Czarist Russia. But he never became pro-Nazi. He was too

clear thinking for that. He liked the Germans all right, but he was not

pro-Nazi. But he hated Communism. That was his life's hatred.

Mr. JENNER. Now, we have you back in New York City--this is when we

went to lunch--around 1953--1952, 1953.

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. Your partnership with Mr. Hooker had terminated.

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No, no; still active. I think it was in

1952--because I was not married--we still had the partnership. I was

visiting Ed Hooker in New York at that particular time, and through him

I met my next wife, my last wife.

Mr. JENNER. All right. Now, who was she?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Wynne Sharples.

Mr. JENNER. She at that time was a student?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. She was just graduating from the medical school

at the College of Physicians and Surgeons, Columbia University. That

was her last year. And she was late in her studies. She was 28 or 29

years old at that time. So she had missed a couple of years, you see.

And we fell in love with each other and decided to get married.

Mr. JENNER. Tell me about the Sharples family.

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. The Sharples family is from Philadelphia,

Philadelphia Quakers. He is in the centrifugal processing business and

also in the oil business. And I had dealings with his nephew for many

years.

Mr. JENNER. What is his name?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Butler, Samuel Butler, Jr. He runs the oil end

of Mr. Sharples' operations. And they had a small interest in Rangely

Field. That is how I got acquainted with Mr. Butler.

So we knew about each other before--my wife's father, and so on and

so forth--and--the daughter asked his advice, whether she should

marry such an adventurous character like me, and the father said, all

right--obviously had sufficient good information from Butler about me.

Butler was my best man at the wedding.

Mr. JENNER. Best man at your wedding to Miss Sharples?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; Sam Butler.

There were several ushers. He was one of the ushers. I don't remember

who was the best man. My brother was the best man. He was one of

ushers. So we got married.

Mr. JENNER. Was the Sharples family wealthy?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Very wealthy.

Mr. JENNER. Socially prominent?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Socially prominent. But not too interested

in society, because they are Quakers, you know. But my wife is

interested----

Mr. JENNER. She has a nickname?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; Didi.

Mr. JENNER. Some of the people apparently--voluntarily--they know her

with that nickname--Didi.

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right. We got married, I think, after her

graduation immediately in the Unitarian Church in Chestnut Hills.

Mr. JENNER. What is that--a suburb of Philadelphia?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. A suburb of Philadelphia. And she moved to

Dallas, and I moved to Dallas, also, from Abilene, where I used to

live, so she could continue her work in the medical field, and to

take her residence in the hospital in Dallas. She was a resident

physician----

Mr. JENNER. In what hospital?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. In the Baylor Hospital.

Mr. JENNER. Baylor University?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. Was it university connected?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't remember. But it is Baylor Hospital, in

Dallas. It is not the same as Baylor University. It is called Baylor

Hospital.

Mr. JENNER. All right.

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. And she stayed there as a resident. I worked very

often in my office in Dallas, instead of Abilene, and continued my

partnership with Ed Hooker. But there developed a tremendous animosity

between Ed Hooker's wife and my wife, Didi.

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