Mr. JENNER. Was he mild-mannered, or----

Mr. TAYLOR. He tended to be, in temperament, a little hot; but there

was a very definite limit to it--even suggesting some inner cowardness.

Mr. JENNER. Did you ever have occasion to observe Marina when she had

any black and blue marks on her person?

Mr. TAYLOR. [Pausing before reply.] No.

Mr. JENNER. Did he ever mention the Kennedys or the Connallys?

Mr. TAYLOR. No.

Mr. JENNER. Did he ever mention the administration of either of them or

their policies?

Mr. TAYLOR. Uh--no; I'm not even sure that Connally was in office at

that time.

Mr. JENNER. Well, he was Secretary of the Navy.

Mr. TAYLOR. That's right. I was thinking of him as Governor.

I never heard Lee take exception to Government officials; take

exception to Government policies--definitely----

Mr. JENNER. We all do this sometimes but never to the human being that

might formulate them. Just to the policy itself. Did he ever mention

Jack Ruby or Jack Rubenstein in your presence?

Mr. TAYLOR. No.

Mr. JENNER. Was he a drinking man?

Mr. TAYLOR. No.

Mr. JENNER. Give me as best you can now recall--did you ever loan him

any money or give him any money?

Mr. TAYLOR. No.

Mr. JENNER. But you did things for him. You made expenditures in their

behalf?

Mr. TAYLOR. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. Did you ever pay for any of the dental care administered to

Marina?

Mr. TAYLOR. No. To my knowledge, that expense was borne by the county.

Mr. JENNER. At least, you never assumed any of it?

Mr. TAYLOR. No.

Mr. JENNER. Have you now told us all of the occasions in which you

either expended funds in their behalf or for them or accorded them help

in your home, or otherwise were charitable to them?

Mr. TAYLOR. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. Were you aware that he was employed here in Dallas by

Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall?

Mr. TAYLOR. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. You ever pick him up there?

Mr. TAYLOR. No.

Mr. JENNER. What did you ever observe with respect to his cleanliness,

his personal habits in that respect?

Mr. TAYLOR. That his clothes, generally, appeared to have been worn

several days, and it was always in question as to when he had taken his

last bath. He was not a clean person, either in clothing or personally.

Mr. JENNER. Was there any contrast in that respect between himself and

Marina?

Mr. TAYLOR. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. She was fastidious, was she?

Mr. TAYLOR. Yes; very much so. And the same thing applied to her

treatment of the child. It never had a damp diaper on if she knew about

it. It just had to be damp--it didn't have to be wet.

Mr. JENNER. Did you ever see him dressed up in the sense that you and I

are dressed now--in a business coat?

Mr. TAYLOR. No. To my knowledge, he did not own any clothing that would

be acceptable in what we would call business circles, say.

Mr. JENNER. Did you ever see him with a tie on?

Mr. TAYLOR. No.

Mr. JENNER. Give me your judgment as to the relationship between Lee

Oswald and George De Mohrenschildt.

Mr. TAYLOR. Uh--it's difficult to assess their relationship because

there probably was more to it than I ever saw. But what little of it I

saw, they were quite in opposition to each other--such as the lessons

in English for Marina. But I certainly think that they must have been

closer than they appeared or the De Mohrenschildts wouldn't have been

so active in seeing that they got along well.

Mr. JENNER. Do you have any opinion as to whether George De

Mohrenschildt exercised any influence over Oswald?

Mr. TAYLOR. Yes; there seemed to be a great deal of influence there.

It would be my guess that De Mohrenschildt encouraged him to move to

Dallas, and he suggested a number of things to Lee--such as where to

look for jobs. And it seems like whatever his suggestions were, Lee

grabbed them and took them--whether it was what time to go to bed or

where to stay or to let Marina stay with us while he stayed at the YMCA.

Mr. JENNER. And he tended to follow De Mohrenschildt's suggestions?

Mr. TAYLOR. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. I want to finish with the Oswalds before I get to the De

Mohrenschildts.

(Looking through papers.)

Tell me, chronologically, about the De Mohrenschildts and your

relationships with them and who these various De Mohrenschildts are?

Mr. TAYLOR. In other words, I will go back time-wise and bring you up.

Mr. JENNER. Yes.

Mr. TAYLOR. He was born in Russia, I believe in Georgia. This is, of

course, all what I had been told for a while here. He was born in

Russia and I believe he went to the----

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