Mr. TAYLOR. It had to be some time between September and November 15,
because my wife and I separated after that. Anyway, at some point
during this period, I do remember going to an area in Oak Cliff and
looking for Lee. I don't think I found him--at least, not on the
occasion I remember. All I had was some vague directions that----
Mr. JENNER. From whom?
Mr. TAYLOR. Well, directly from my wife but indirectly I believe that
came to her from Mrs. De Mohrenschildt.
Mr. JENNER. Were you requested to seek to locate him?
Mr. TAYLOR. I don't know why I was trying to locate him. I don't
remember anything except I remember driving around one area one evening
looking for a residence of his on some vague directions. As I say, I
don't even remember if it was a residence of the whole family or just
of Lee.
I went back to this area within the last few weeks and located a
building that stuck--or I had a recollection of one building in this
area and I went back to the area and found it and gave that information
to Agent Yelchek of the FBI. I don't know what he----
Mr. JENNER. What location was that?
Mr. TAYLOR. I gave him the exact street address--but it seems to
me like it was--well, the name of the apartment building was the
Coz-I-Eight [spelling] C-o-z--I--E-i-g-h-t--apartments, and I think
they were located at 1404 North Beckley. But the address I could be off
on; but the name I do remember.
Mr. JENNER. What kind of a building was this?
Mr. TAYLOR. An apartment building.
Mr. JENNER. Brick?
Mr. TAYLOR. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. A more substantial-type thing than you had seen the Oswalds
occupy prior thereto?
Mr. TAYLOR. Repeat, please.
Mr. JENNER. Was this a building of a substantiality higher caliber than
the Elsbeth Street home, for example?
Mr. TAYLOR. Uh--I would say it was in the same class.
Mr. JENNER. Did the occasion arise in which Lee Oswald called you to
ask you to assist in moving him and Marina to an apartment in Dallas?
Mr. TAYLOR. I'm not sure how definitely that was--I'm not definitely
sure how that was instigated. I'm not sure. It was either Lee directly
or Mrs. De Mohrenschildt that asked for this assistance in moving.
Whichever it was, my wife and I got together with Lee, I believe, on a
Sunday afternoon.
Mr. JENNER. Did you pick him up or did he come to your home?
Mr. TAYLOR. I cannot remember.
Mr. JENNER. Did he have anything with him in the way of luggage?
Mr. TAYLOR. I believe he did.
Mr. JENNER. Describe it, please.
Mr. TAYLOR. I believe he had a paper bag of clothing, a rather large
one, and an old leather suitcase. And that he had these two containers
of personal belongings, and we went to Fort Worth and added Marina's to
this--Marina's belongings and the household furnishings, whatever they
were, and brought it all to the Elsbeth Street apartment.
Mr. JENNER. Now, did you pile all of this clothing and household
furniture, to the extent they had any, in the rear of your automobile,
and haul it back to Dallas? Or how did you do this?
Mr. TAYLOR. I rented a trailer in Fort Worth.
Mr. JENNER. Now, where did you rent that trailer? Where was the place
located from which you rented the trailer?
Mr. TAYLOR. I do not remember. I have even been to this place recently
again with Mr. Yelchek of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. And
we went over one evening and pinpointed the location of that service
station where I had rented a small covered trailer and----
Mr. JENNER. A small covered trailer?
Mr. TAYLOR. Yes; it was covered.
Mr. JENNER. And give me the location of the place you pinpointed with
Mr. Yelchek.
Mr. TAYLOR. I don't remember an address on the service station. It is a
mile or so north of Texas Christian University in Fort Worth.
Mr. JENNER. I see. Does University Drive sort of refresh your
recollection?
Mr. TAYLOR. It--uh--could be University; yeah. However, it was not
University Drive. It was another street which I just can't remember.
This service station was west of the South Freeway, as I say, about a
mile north of Texas Christian University.
Mr. JENNER. Uh-huh.
Mr. TAYLOR. I did originally think that it was on University but, upon
investigation of the--visual investigation, actually being there one
evening, why we did locate it and it was in another place.
Mr. JENNER. The place that you located when Mr. Yelchek accompanied
you was different from the one that you had remembered when you first
talked to the FBI?
Mr. TAYLOR. Yes; however, it, in my mind, is a positive identification.
There is no question about it.
Mr. JENNER. Your more recent one is?
Mr. TAYLOR. Yes; when Mr. Yelchek and I went. I was able to positively
identify the location. I might add, after having talked to him since
then, that the owner says that--or there is no record of the rental at
this location. There seems to be a set of duplicate books involved--one
for themselves and one for the National Trailer Co., whichever one it
was. A little fraud, or something, involved in that. We didn't get too
involved in it--just to know that there wasn't any record.
Mr. JENNER. Is the name J. H. Pendley familiar to you?
Mr. TAYLOR. No.
Mr. JENNER. Do you have your driver's license with you?
Mr. TAYLOR. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Would you look at it and tell me what the number of it is?
Mr. TAYLOR. 1606670. And that's my memory that's talking.
(Witness then takes the driver's license from billfold and hands to Mr.
Jenner.)
Mr. JENNER. 1606670.
(Hands license back to witness.)
Did the people from whom you rented the trailer take your driver's
license number on that occasion?
Mr. TAYLOR. I don't remember. It's common--in fact, it's normal
procedure to take the license number--driver's license and vehicle
license.
Mr. JENNER. How long have you had that number?
Mr. TAYLOR. It's permanent in the State of Texas.
Mr. JENNER. So you had it on this occasion--the same number?
Mr. TAYLOR. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. What's the practice in Texas in respect to license numbers?
Do you get a new one every year, or do you get a sticker--or what?
Mr. TAYLOR. Vehicle?
Mr. JENNER. Yes.
Mr. TAYLOR. They change from year to year.
Mr. JENNER. They change the number?
Mr. TAYLOR. Yes; they do.
Mr. JENNER. Do you, by any chance, remember your license number in 1962?
Mr. TAYLOR. No.
Mr. JENNER. Do you ever recall having a license number with the digit
letters "E" and "Y"?
Mr. TAYLOR. I would never have a license tag with that number.
Mr. JENNER. With those prefix letters?
Mr. TAYLOR. Yes; as long as I lived in Dallas.
Mr. JENNER. Why is that, sir?
Mr. TAYLOR. The "E" prefix--the prefixes beginning with "E" are for
Tarrant County, of which Fort Worth is a part.
Mr. JENNER. And you being in Dallas County, your initials are
what--your prefixes?
Mr. TAYLOR. In Dallas County they would be some of the "M" prefix, all
of the "N" and "P".
Mr. JENNER. "N" as in "Nancy," "P" as in "Paul"?