"Well, just the same problem--the hospitalization and the doctors."
I said to her that in United States we have, when you work with a
company, you have insurance. You pay just a little every month and then
if you go to the hospital, the insurance company will pay.
Mr. JENNER. Yes.
Mrs. DYMITRUK. That's how I explain to her.
"Well, in Russia, when a baby is born in Russia--my baby was born in
Russia, and they took care and when I come home from the hospital there
was a nurse for 8 days in my room who took care of the baby--and why is
it not in United States like this?"
I said to her, "Well, you just can't compare two countries--Russia and
United States." I said, "I am longer here and I can explain so you will
understand."
Mr. JENNER. And did you explain to her?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. I explained about this hospitalization what we have here.
Mr. JENNER. Uh-huh.
Mrs. DYMITRUK. "Well," she said, "it's still too expensive. If you have
to go doctor, you pay the visit."
I said, "You can go to the hospital--to the Parkland Hospital and it
cost you nothing because they don't charge you anything."
Mr. JENNER. Yes.
Mrs. DYMITRUK. "If you have your own doctor, for example, if you go to
doctor, then you pay $10 or $5 or something like that." I said, "Why,
that's nothing."
"Well, I can't afford it."
I said, "Well, that's why I'm taking you to hospital--to Parkland
Hospital--to see the doctor and you don't have to pay anything."
That was the only--what she complained about.
Mr. JENNER. But otherwise she thought well of the United States?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. She liked it.
Mr. JENNER. She wanted to stay?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. She want to stay; yes.
Mr. JENNER. In any event, she did not want to go back to Russia?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. No.
Mr. JENNER. But she told you that her husband did want to return to
Russia?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. With her?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Do you remember specifically now?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes; I remember. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. You have a firm recollection that it was that he wanted to
go back with her?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. With her. And she said, "I don't want to go. If he want
to go, he can go by himself. I stay here."
Mr. JENNER. Now, did she say anything, during the course of this time
you were with her, about her husband's attitude toward the United
States?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. She told me that he was unhappy and that he was very
disappointed; that he would lose jobs just because that he was in
Russia and the people find out that he was in Russia, so he's on the
street.
Mr. JENNER. Uh-huh.
Mrs. DYMITRUK. And that's why he was always so upset.
Mr. JENNER. I see. All right.
Now, Mrs. Dymitruk, does anything occur to you now to which you would
like to call my attention and, through me, the Commission, that you
think for any possible reason might be helpful to us in this important
investigation?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. Well, in my opinion, naturally, everyone American who
goes from United States to Russia, let them there. Don't bring them
back. That's the only thing that I can say. It's no reason to leave
United States and change your nationality or something. Because I have
experience myself. I lived in Russia for 15 years and, in my childhood,
I knew too much about the life in Russia. And I can't see any reason
that American want to go to Russia and to accept Russian life--I mean
the Communists. I can't see that.
Mr. JENNER. You have a personal aversion to communism?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. And it's your viewpoint that if any American goes to Russia
with the intention of living there that we ought to leave them there?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. That's right.
Mr. JENNER. And not encourage him to return to the United States?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. Not encourage--or if he ask to come back, just let him
stay there.
Mr. JENNER. Uh-huh. All right.
Anything else?
Mrs. DYMITRUK. Let's see--Uh--one thing that I'm just always wonder
about Marina and her husband--that she knew--if she knew that her
husband tried to kill General Walker. I think she was responsible, in
that case, to tell the Government or somebody in Government that her
husband tried to do this.