A REPLY TO THE REV. L. A. BANKS.

_Question_. Have you read the remarks made about you by the Rev.

Mr. Banks, and what do you think of what he said?

_Answer_. The reverend gentleman pays me a great compliment by

comparing me to a circus. Everybody enjoys the circus. They love

to see the acrobats, the walkers on the tight rope, the beautiful

girls on the horses, and they laugh at the wit of the clowns. They

are delighted with the jugglers, with the music of the band. They

drink the lemonade, eat the colored popcorn and laugh until they

nearly roll off their seats. Now the circus has a few animals so

that Christians can have an excuse for going. Think of the joy

the circus gives to the boys and girls. They look at the show

bills, see the men and women flying through the air, bursting

through paper hoops, the elephants standing on their heads, and

the clowns, in curious clothes, with hands on their knees and open

mouths, supposed to be filled with laughter.

All the boys and girls for many miles around know the blessed day.

They save their money, obey their parents, and when the circus

comes they are on hand. They see the procession and then they see

the show. They are all happy. No sermon ever pleased them as

much, and in comparison even the Sunday school is tame and dull.

To feel that I have given as much joy as the circus fills me with

pleasure. What chance would the Rev. Dr. Banks stand against a

circus?

The reverend gentleman has done me a great honor, and I tender him

my sincere thanks.

_Question_. Dr. Banks says that you write only one lecture a year,

while preachers write a brand new one every week--that if you did

that people would tire of you. What have you to say to that?

_Answer_. It may be that great artists paint only one picture a

year, and it may be that sign painters can do several jobs a day.

Still, I would not say that the sign painters were superior to the

artists. There is quite a difference between a sculptor and a

stone-cutter.

There are thousands of preachers and thousands and thousands of

sermons preached every year. Has any orthodox minister in the year

1898 given just one paragraph to literature? Has any orthodox

preacher uttered one great thought, clothed in perfect English that

thrilled the hearers like music--one great strophe that became one

of the treasures of memory?

I will make the question a little clearer. Has any orthodox

preacher, or any preacher in an orthodox pulpit uttered a paragraph

of what may be called sculptured speech since Henry Ward Beecher

died? I do not wonder that the sermons are poor. Their doctrines

have been discussed for centuries. There is little chance for

originality; they not only thresh old straw, but the thresh straw

that has been threshed a million times--straw in which there has

not been a grain of wheat for hundreds of years. No wonder that

they have nervous prostration. No wonder that they need vacations,

and no wonder that their congregations enjoy the vacations as keenly

as the ministers themselves. Better deliver a real good address

fifty-two times than fifty-two poor ones--just for the sake of

variety.

_Question_. Dr. Banks says that the tendency at present is not

toward Agnosticism, but toward Christianity. What is your opinion?

_Answer_. When I was a boy "Infidels" were very rare. A man who

denied the inspiration of the Bible was regarded as a monster.

Now there are in this country millions who regard the Bible as the

work of ignorant and superstitious men. A few years ago the Bible

was the standard. All scientific theories were tested by the Bible.

Now science is the standard and the Bible is tested by that.

Dr. Banks did not mention the names of the great scientists who

are or were Christians, but he probably thought of Laplace, Humboldt,

Haeckel, Huxley, Spencer, Tyndall, Darwin, Helmholtz and Draper.

When he spoke of Christian statesmen he likely thought of Jefferson,

Franklin, Washington, Paine and Lincoln--or he may have thought of

Pierce, Fillmore and Buchanan.

But, after all, there is no argument in names. A man is not

necessarily great because he holds office or wears a crown or talks

in a pulpit. Facts, reasons, are better than names. But it seems

to me that nothing can be plainer than that the church is losing

ground--that the people are discarding the creeds and that superstition

has passed the zenith of its power.

_Question_. Dr. Banks says that Christ did not mention the Western

Hemisphere because God does nothing for men that they can do for

themselves. What have you to say?

_Answer_. Christ said nothing about the Western Hemisphere because

he did not know that it existed. He did not know the shape of the

earth. He was not a scientist--never even hinted at any science--

never told anybody to investigate--to think. His idea was that

this life should be spent in preparing for the next. For all the

evils of this life, and the next, faith was his remedy.

I see from the report in the paper that Dr. Banks, after making

the remarks about me preached a sermon on "Herod the Villain in

the Drama of Christ." Who made Herod? Dr. Banks will answer that

God made him. Did God know what Herod would do? Yes. Did he know

that he would cause the children to be slaughtered in his vain

efforts to kill the infant Christ? Yes. Dr. Banks will say that

God is not responsible for Herod because he gave Herod freedom.

Did God know how Herod would use his freedom? Did he know that he

would become the villain in the drama of Christ? Yes. Who, then,

is really responsible for the acts of Herod?

If I could change a stone into a human being, and if I could give

this being freedom of will, and if I knew that if I made him he

would murder a man, and if with that knowledge I made him, and he

did commit a murder, who would be the real murderer?

Will Dr. Banks in his fifty-two sermons of next year show that his

God is not responsible for the crimes of Herod?

No doubt Dr. Banks is a good man, and no doubt he thinks that

liberty of thought leads to hell, and honestly believes that all

doubt comes from the Devil. I do not blame him. He thinks as he

must. He is a product of conditions.

He ought to be my friend because I am doing the best I can to

civilize his congregation.

--_The Plain Dealer_, Cleveland, Ohio, 1898.

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