BERNE,

_August 19, 1820._

The day we set out from Pregny we breakfasted at Coppet; from some

misunderstanding M. de Staël had not expected us and had breakfasted,

but as he is remarkably well-bred, easy, and obliging in his manners he

was not _put out_, and while our breakfast was preparing he showed us

the house. All the rooms once inhabited by Madame de Staël we could not

think of as common rooms--they have a classical power over the mind, and

this was much heightened by the strong attachment and respect for her

memory shown in every word and look, and _silence_ by her son and by her

friend, Miss Randall. He is correcting for the press _Les dix Années

d'Exil._ M. de Staël after breakfast took us a delightful walk through

the grounds, which he is improving with good taste and judgment. He told

me that his mother never gave any work to the public in the form in

which she originally composed it; she changed the arrangement and

expression of her thoughts with such facility, and was so little

attached to her own first views of the subject that often a work was

completely remodelled by her while passing through the press. Her father

disliked to see her make any formal preparation for writing when she was

young, so that she used to write often on the corner of the

chimney-piece, or on a pasteboard held in her hand, and always in the

room with others, for her father could not bear her to be out of the

room--and this habit of writing without preparation she preserved ever

afterwards.

M. de Staël told me of a curious interview he had with Buonaparte when

he was enraged with his mother, who had published remarks on his

government--concluding with "Eh! bien vous avez raison aussi. Je conçois

qu'un fils doit toujours faire la defense de sa mère, mais enfin, si

Monsieur veut écrire des libelles, il faut aller en Angleterre. Ou bien,

s'il cherche la gloire, c'est en Angleterre qu'il faut aller. C'est

l'Angleterre, ou la France--il n'y a que ces deux pays en Europe--dans

le monde."

Before any one else at Paris, Miss Randall told me, had the _MS. de

Sainte-Hélène_, a copy had been sent to the Duke of Wellington, who lent

it to Madame de Staël; she began to read it eagerly, and when she had

read about half, she stopped and exclaimed, "Where is Benjamin Constant?

we will wait for him." When he came, she began to give him an account of

what they had been reading; he listened with the indifference of a

person who had already seen the book, and when she urged him to read up

to them, he said he would go on where they were. When it was criticised,

he defended it, or writhed under it as if the attack was personal. When

accused of being the author, he denied it with vehemence, and Miss

Randall said to him, "If you had simply denied it I might have believed

you, but when you come to swearing, I am sure that you are the author."

M. de Staël called his little brother, Alphonse Rocca, to introduce him

to us; he is a pleasing, gentle-looking, ivory-pale boy with dark-blue

eyes, not the least like Madame de Staël. M. de Staël speaks English

perfectly, and with the air of an Englishman of fashion. After our walk

he proposed our going on the lake--and we rowed for about an hour. The

deep, deep blue of the water, and the varying colours as the sun shone

and the shadows of the clouds appeared on it were beautiful. When we

returned and went to rest in M. de Staël's cabinet, Dumont, who had

quoted from Voltaire's "Ode on the Lake of Geneva," read it to us. Read

it and tell me where you think it ought to begin.

We slept at Morges on Tuesday, and arrived late and tired at Yverdun.

Next morning we went to see Pestalozzi's establishment; he recognised me

and I him; he is, tell my mother, the same wild-looking man he was, with

the addition of seventeen years. The whole superintendence of the school

is now in the hands of his masters; he just shows a visitor into the

room, and reappears as you are going away with a look that pleads

irresistibly for an obole of praise.

While we were in the school, and while I was stretching my poor little

comprehension to the utmost to follow the master of mathematics, I saw

enter a benevolent-looking man with an open forehead and a clear, kind

eye. He was obviously an Englishman, and from his manner of standing I

thought he was a captain in the navy. My attention was called away, and

I was intent upon an account of a school for deaf and dumb, which I was

interested in on account of William Beaufort, when a lady desired to be

introduced to me; she said she had been talking to Mrs. Moilliet, taking

her for Miss Edgeworth--she was "the wife of Captain Hillyar, Captain

Beaufort's friend." What a revolution in all our ideas! We almost ran to

Captain Hillyar, my benevolent--looking Englishman, and most cordially

did he receive us, and insisted upon our all coming to dine with him.

When I presented Fanny and Harriet to him as Captain Beaufort's nieces

he did look so pleased, and all the way home he was praising Captain

Beaufort with such delight to himself. "But I never write to the fellow,

faith! I'll tell you the truth; I can't bring myself to sit down and

write to him, he is such a superior being; I can't do it; what can I

have to say worth his reading? Why, look at his letters, one page of

them contains more sense than I could write in a volume."

At dinner, turning to Fanny and Harriet, he drank "Uncle Francis's

health;" and when we took leave he shook us by the hand at the carriage

door. "You know we sailors can never take leave without a hearty shake

of the hand. It comes from the heart, and I hope will go to it."

From Yverdun our evening drive by the lake of Neufchatel was beautiful,

and mounting gradually we came late at night to Paienne, and next day to

Fribourg, at the dirtiest of inns, as if kept by chance, and such a

mixture of smells of onions, grease, dirt, and dunghill! But, never

mind! I would bear all that, and more, to see and hear Père Gèrard. But

this I keep for Lovell, as I shall tell him all about Pestalozzi,

Fellenburg, and Père Gèrard's schools. You shall not even know who Père

Gèrard is.

So we go on to Berne. The moment we entered this canton we perceived the

superior cultivation of the land, the comfort of the cottagers, and

their fresh-coloured, honest, jolly, independent, hard-working

appearance. Trees of superb growth, beech and fir, beautifully mixed,

grew on the sides of the mountains. On the road here we had the finest

lightning I ever saw flashing from the horizon. Berne is chiefly built

of a whitish stone, like Bath stone, and has flagged walks arched over,

like Chester. A clear rivulet runs through the middle of each street:

there are delightful public walks. On Sunday we saw the peasants in

their holiday costume, very pretty, etc.

I have kept to the last that M. de Staël and Miss Randall spoke in the

most gratifying terms of praise of my father's life.

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