Mr. JENNER. Give me the impression you have rather than speculate.
Mr. PIC. They couldn't get along with Mrs. Oswald.
Mr. JENNER. With your mother?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recall an incident, sergeant, when your mother went
to work in 1942, and she had a couple, a Mr. and Mrs. Roach taking care
of Lee who was then----
Mr. PIC. What was Roach's first name, sir?
Mr. JENNER. Thomas.
Mr. PIC. What street did he live on?
Mr. JENNER. 831 Pauline.
Mr. PIC. No, sir; I don't. The only one I could think of that may have
taken care of Lee was this milkman Bud and his wife.
Mr. JENNER. To help refresh your recollection, it is a fact that your
mother lived with Lee at 831 Pauline Street in 1942, and a couple
present there by the name of Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Roach, Thomas and Dora
Roach. They had been living on de Lessups Street in New Orleans, in the
800 block.
Mr. PIC. No, sir.
Mr. JENNER. And moved into 831 Pauline, or your mother moved into 831
Pauline Street with them. There was a whole question as to who was the
renter, whether it was the Roaches or your mother?
Mr. PIC. No, sir; this I don't recall at all.
Mr. JENNER. And it wasn't long after they were there that some
difficulty arose with respect to Lee and that ended that. It was about
6 weeks or a month, 2 months. But you have no recollection of that?
Mr. PIC. No, sir.
Mr. JENNER. All right. The question I asked you and which I keep
interrupting in was to give me your impressions of change, if any, with
the coming of the death of your stepfather, and you were in the course
of recounting that.
Mr. PIC. Well, it struck me or it strikes me that we became lower and
lower in the class structure.