TESTIMONY OF JOHN EDWARD PIC

The testimony of John Edward Pic was taken at 10:25 a.m., on May

15, 1964, at 200 Maryland Avenue NE., Washington, D.C., by Messrs.

John Hart Ely and Albert E. Jenner, Jr., assistant counsel of the

President's Commission.

Mr. JENNER. Sergeant Pic, do you swear in your testimony you are about

to give that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but

the truth?

Mr. PIC. Yes; I do.

Mr. JENNER. State your full name, please.

Mr. PIC. Staff Sergeant John Edward Pic, sir, U.S. Air Force.

Mr. JENNER. And that Pic is spelled P-i-c-?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.

Mr. JENNER. Give me your home address.

Mr. PIC. 7306 Westville, San Antonio, Tex.

Mr. JENNER. You are a married man?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.

Mr. JENNER. Give the full name of your wife including her married name,

children, if any, ages and names and where born.

Mr. PIC. My wife's maiden name is Margaret Dorothy Fuhrman. My eldest

is John Edward Pic, Jr., 14 May, 1952. My daughter, Janet Ann Pic, 18

October 1954; James Michael Pic, 22 February 1960.

Mr. JENNER. Your wife Margaret is--she was born where?

Mr. PIC. New York City, sir.

Mr. JENNER. Her parents are native Americans as well as she?

Mr. PIC. No, sir; they are not.

Mr. JENNER. What do you know of them?

Mr. PIC. Her father died; I never met the man while we were going

together. Her mother and father were separated. Her mother was born in

Hungary, I think. Her father was also, sir.

Mr. JENNER. What do you understand as to when they came to this country?

Mr. PIC. I have never inquired. It has probably been mentioned but I

have forgotten.

Mr. JENNER. Was it your impression they had been here a good many years?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; they have seven children. The eldest being in her

forties, I am pretty sure.

Mr. JENNER. I see. When you met your wife she was living with her

mother?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.

Mr. JENNER. Where?

Mr. PIC. 325 East 92d Street, New York City.

Mr. JENNER. And you were at that time in the service?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; U.S. Coast Guard, assigned to U.S. Coast Guard

Cutter _Rockaway_.

Mr. JENNER. How old is Mrs. Pic?

Mr. PIC. Thirty, sir. She turned 30 the 21st of December.

Mr. JENNER. Of 1963?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.

Mr. JENNER. She was born December 21, 1933?

Mr. PIC. It may be 22, sir; I never remember. I am giving sworn

testimony, I don't want to lie about my wife's birthday; it is either

the 21st or 22d, I am pretty sure it is the 21st.

Mr. JENNER. You are stationed where at present?

Mr. PIC. I am attached to Wilford Hall, USAF Hospital, Lackland Air

Force Base, San Antonio, Tex.

Mr. JENNER. Do you--what is your particular assignment?

Mr. PIC. I am NCOIC, Special Procedures Branch, Department of

Pathology, Wilford Hall Hospital. I have had this job since the 10th of

February this year, and my other ones, I had another job when I talked

to the Secret Service if you would be interested in that.

Mr. JENNER. How long have you been at Lackland?

Mr. PIC. I have been there since August 1962, sir.

Mr. JENNER. My information is you were born in New Orleans on January

17, 1932?

Mr. PIC. That is correct, sir.

Mr. JENNER. You entered the Coast Guard.

Mr. PIC. It was either 25 or 26 January 1950, sir.

Mr. JENNER. And you were then 18 years of age?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.

Mr. JENNER. And that was where?

Mr. PIC. I processed my enlistment in Fort Worth. I was sworn into the

Coast Guard in Dallas, Tex.

Mr. JENNER. I think it might be well if we had your service history

all in one spot so you go ahead and for my benefit speak a little more

slowly so I can absorb it.

Mr. PIC. All right, sir. Approximately 26 January 1950, enlisted in

Coast Guard in Dallas, Tex.; from January 1950 until May 1950, I was

in boot camp at U.S. Coast Guard Training Station, Cape May, N.J. In

May 1950 until January 1951, I was attached to U.S. Coast Guard cutter

_Rockaway_. January 1951 until approximately June 1951 was stationed at

U.S. Coast Guard Training Station, Groton, Conn. From June 1951 until

January 1952, I was stationed at U.S. Coast Guard Base, St. George,

Staten Island, N.Y. From January 1952 until April 1952, I was stationed

at U.S. Naval Training Station, Bainbridge, Md. April 1952 until

February 1953, I was stationed at U.S. Coast Guard PSU, which is Port

Security Unit, Ellis Island, N.Y. February 1953 until September 1953, I

was stationed aboard the U.S. Coast Guard cutter _Firebush_.

Mr. JENNER. Were you at sea?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; this was classified as sea duty. It was really a

buoy tender.

Mr. JENNER. In what area?

Mr. PIC. New York area, sir.

Mr. JENNER. Were you on ship all the time during that period?

Mr. PIC. We would go out a day, come back the next; back and forth.

Mr. JENNER. What I am really getting at is when you were ashore were

you home?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; I went home the minute I got off the ship.

Mr. JENNER. OK.

Mr. PIC. September 1953 until April 1954--these months I am pretty

sure, I am certain are OK.

Mr. JENNER. That is all right.

Mr. PIC. I was stationed at U.S. Naval Hospital, Portsmouth, Va.

My address when I lived there was, for 3 months we lived with my

sister-in-law in Norfolk.

Mr. JENNER. Name her, please.

Mr. PIC. Mrs. Emma Parrish, I believe.

Mr. JENNER. That was your wife's sister?

Mr. PIC. That is correct, sir. Then in January of 1954 we moved over to

Portsmouth, Va., 1234 Holliday Street.

April 1954 for about 2, 3 weeks, I was then stationed again at St.

George, Staten Island, and I received orders through the Coast Guard

cutter _Halfmoon_, and I was on the Coast Guard cutter _Halfmoon_ until

January 1956.

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