M. SONNINO: _Et italienne aussi_....

M. HOUSE: _Puisqu'est une question importante pour tous, je propose

l'addition de M. Clemenceau_.

M. BONAR LAW: _C'est deja dit dans notre lettre au Président Wilson,

qui la comuniquera à l'Allemagne. Il est inutile de la dire deux

fois_.

M. ORLANDO: _J'accepte en principe, quoiqu'il n'en ait pas été fait

mention dans les conditions de l'armistice avec l'Autriche_.

_L'addition "Réparations des dommages" est alors adoptée. M. Klotz

propose de mettre en tête de cette addition les mots: "Sous réserve

de toutes revendications et restaurations ultérieures de la part des

Alliés et des Etats-Unis." Il est ainsi décidé_.

If I were at liberty to publish the official report of the doings of

the Conference while the various peace treaties were being prepared,

as MM. Poincaré and Tardieu have published secret acts, it would be

seen that the proceedings were very much the same in every case.

Meanwhile we may confine ourselves to an examination of the report as

given by M. Tardieu.

The question of reparation of damages was not a condition of the

armistice. It had not been accepted. Clemenceau brings the question up

again solely in homage to French public opinion. The suggestion is to

write in simply the three words: _Reparation of damages_. It is true

that these three words determine a policy, and that there is no

mention of it in the claims of the Entente, in the fourteen points

of President Wilson, or in the armistice between Italy and

Austria-Hungary. In his fourteen points Wilson confined himself, in

the matter of damages, to the following claims: (1) Reconstruction

of Belgium, (2) Reconstruction of French territory invaded, (3)

Reparation for territory invaded in Serbia, Montenegro and Rumania.

There is no other claim or statement in the fourteen points. On the

other hand the pronouncement, "_Réparation des dommages_," included,

as in fact was afterwards included, any claim for damage by land or

sea.

The representatives of Belgium, Italy and Great Britain remark that it

is a condition of peace, not of armistice. But Clemenceau makes it

a question of regard and consideration for France. France would not

understand there being no mention of it; there was no desire to define

anything, only just to mention it, and in three simple words. "I ask

you," says Clemenceau, "to put yourselves into the spirit of the

people of France." At once the British representative notes the

necessity of a clear statement regarding reparations for losses at sea

through submarines and mines; and all, the Serbian, the Belgian and,

last of all, the Italian, at once call attention to their own damages.

Mr. House, not realizing the wide and serious nature of the claim,

says that it is an important question for all, while America had

already stated, in the words of the President of the Republic, that it

renounced all indemnity of any nature whatsoever.

So was established, quite incidentally, the principle of indemnity for

damages which gave the treaty a complete turn away from the spirit

of the pronouncements by the Entente and the United States. Equally

incidentally were established all the declarations in the treaty, the

purpose of which is not easy to understand except in so far as it is

seen in the economic results which may accrue.

Article 231 of the Treaty of Versailles states that the allied and

associated governments affirm, and Germany accepts, the responsibility

of Germany and her allies for causing all the loss and damage to which

the allied and associated governments and their peoples have been

subjected as a consequence of the War imposed on them by the

aggression of Germany and her allies.

Article 177 of the Treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye states in the

same way that the allied and associated governments affirm, and

Austria-Hungary accepts, the responsibility of Austria and her allies,

etc.

This article is common to all the treaties, and it would have no more

than historic and philosophic interest if it were not followed by

another article in which the allied and associated governments

recognize that the resources of Germany (and of Austria-Hungary, etc.)

are not adequate, after taking into account permanent diminutions of

such resources which will result from other provisions of the present

treaty, to make complete reparation for all such loss and damage.

The allied and associated governments, however, require, and Germany

undertakes, that she will make compensation for all damage done to the

civilian population of the allied and associated powers and to their

property during the period of the belligerency of each as an allied or

associated power against Germany by such aggression by land, by sea

and from the air, and in general all damage as defined in the treaty,

comprising many of the burdens of war (war pensions and compensations

to soldiers and their families, cost of assistance to families of

those mobilized during the War, etc.).

There is nothing more useless, indeed more stupid, than to take your

enemy by the throat after you have beaten him and force him to declare

that all the wrong was on his side. The declaration is of no use

whatever, either to the conqueror, because no importance can be

attributed to an admission extorted by force; or to the conquered,

because he knows that there is no moral significance in being forced

to state what one does not believe; or for third parties, because they

are well aware of the circumstances under which the declaration was

made. It is possible that President Wilson wanted to establish a moral

reason--I do not like to say a moral alibi--for accepting, as he was

constrained by necessity to accept, all those conditions which were

the negation of what he had solemnly laid down, the moral pledge of

his people, of the American democracy.

Germany and the conquered countries have accepted the conditions

imposed on them with the reserve that they feel that they are not

bound by them, even morally, in the future. The future will pour

ridicule on this new form of treaty which endeavours to justify

excessive and absurd demands, which will have the effect of destroying

the enemy rather than of obtaining any sure benefit, by using a forced

declaration which has no value at all.

I have always detested German imperialism, and also the phases of

exaggerated nationalism which have grown up in every country after the

War and have been eliminated one after the other through the simple

fact of their being common to all countries, but only after having

brought the greatest possible harm to all the peoples, and I cannot

say that Germany and her allies were solely responsible for the War

which devastated Europe and threw a dark shadow over the life of the

whole world. That statement, which we all made during the War, was a

weapon to be used at the time; now that the War is over, it cannot be

looked on as a serious argument.

An honest and thorough examination of all the diplomatic documents,

all the agreements and relations of pre-war days, compels me to

declare solemnly that the responsibility for the War does not lie

solely on the defeated countries; that Germany may have desired

war and prepared for it under the influence of powerful industrial

interests, metallurgic, for instance, responsible for the extreme

views of newspapers and other publications, but still all the warring

countries have their share of responsibility in differing degree. It

cannot be said that there existed in Europe two groups with a moral

conception differing to the point of complete contrast; on one side,

Germany, Austria-Hungary, Turkey and Bulgaria, responsible for the

War, which they imposed by their aggression; on the other, all the

free and independent nations. By the side of England, France, Italy

and the United States there was Russia, which must bear, if not the

greatest, a very great responsibility for what happened. Nor is it

true that armament expenses in the ten years preceding the War were

greater in the Central Empires, or, to put it better, in the States

forming the Triple Alliance, than in the countries which later formed

the European Entente.

It is not true that only in the case of Germany were the war aims

imperialist, and that the Entente countries came in without desire of

conquest. Putting aside for the moment what one sees in the treaties

which have followed the War, it is worth while considering what would

have happened if Russia had won the War instead of being torn to

pieces before victory came. Russia would have had all the Poland of

the eighteenth century (with the apparent autonomy promised by the

Tsar), nearly all Turkey in Europe, Constantinople, and a great part

of Asia Minor. Russia, with already the greatest existing land empire

and at least half the population not Russian, would have gained

fresh territories with fresh non-Russian populations, putting the

Mediterranean peoples, and above all Italy, in a very difficult

situation indeed.

It cannot be said that in the ten years preceding the War Russia did

not do as much as Germany to bring unrest into Europe. It was on

account of Russia that the Serbian Government was a perpetual cause

of disturbance, a perpetual threat to Austria-Hungary. The unending

strife in the Balkans was caused by Russia in no less degree than

by Austria-Hungary, and all the great European nations shared, with

opposing views, in the policy of Eastern expansion.

The judgment of peoples and of events, given the uncertainty of policy

as expressed in parliament and newspapers, is variable to the last

degree. It will be enough to recall the varying judgment upon Serbia

during the last ten years in the Press of Great Britain, France and

Italy: the people of Serbia have been described as criminals and

heroes, assassins and martyrs. No one would have anything to do with

Serbia; later Serbia was raised to the skies.

The documents published by Kautsky in Germany and those revealed from

time to time by the Moscow Government prove that the preparation for

and conviction of war was not only on the part of the Central Empires,

but also, and in no less degree, on the part of the other States. One

point will always remain inexplicable: why Russia should have taken

the superlatively serious step of general mobilization, which could

not be and was not a simple measure of precaution. It is beyond doubt

that the Russian mobilization preceded even that of Austria. After

a close examination of events, after the bitter feeling of war had

passed, in his speech of December 23, 1920, Lloyd George said justly

that the War broke out without any Government having really desired

it; all, in one way or another, slithered into it, stumbling and

tripping.

There were three Monarchies in Europe, the Russian, German, and

Austro-Hungarian Empires, and the fact that they were divided into

two groups necessarily led to war. It was inevitable sooner or later.

Russia was the greatest danger, the greatest threat to Europe; what

happened had to happen under one form or another. The crazy giant was

under the charge of one man without intelligence and a band of men,

the men of the old regime, largely without scruples.

Each country of Europe has its share of responsibility, Italy not

excluded. It is difficult to explain why Italy went to Tripoli in the

way in which she did in 1911, bringing about the Italo-Turkish war,

which brought about the two Balkan wars and the policy of adventure of

Serbia, which was the incident though not the cause of the European

War.

The Libyan adventure, considered now in the serene light of reason,

cannot be looked on as anything but an aberration. Libya is an immense

box of sand which never had any value, nor has it now. Tripolitania,

Cyrenaica and Fezzan cover more than one million one hundred

thousand square kilometres and have less than nine hundred thousand

inhabitants, of whom even now, after ten years, less than a third are

under the effective control of Italy. With the war and expenses of

occupation, Libya has cost Italy about seven milliard lire, and for a

long time yet it will be on the debit side in the life of the nation.

With the same number of milliards, most of which were spent before the

European War, Italy could have put in order and utilized her immense

patrimony of water-power and to-day would be free from anxiety about

the coal problem by which it is actually enslaved. The true policy

of the nation was to gain economic independence, not a barren waste.

Ignorant people spoke of Libya in Italy as a promised land; in one

official speech the King was even made to say that Libya could absorb

part of Italian emigration. That was just a phenomenon of madness,

for Libya has no value at all from the agricultural, commercial or

military point of view. It may pay its way one day, but only if all

expenses are cut down and the administrative system is completely

changed. It may be that, if only from a feeling of duty towards the

inhabitants, Italy cannot abandon Libya now that she has taken it, but

the question will always be asked why she did take it, why she took

it by violence when a series of concessions could have been obtained

without difficulty from the Turkish Government.

The Libyan enterprise, undertaken on an impulse, against the opinion

of Italy's allies, Austria and Germany, against the wish of England

and France, is a very serious political responsibility for Italy.

The European War was the consequence of a long series of movements,

aspirations, agitations. It cannot be denied, and it is recognized by

clear-thinking men like Lloyd George, that France and England too

have by their actions taken on themselves their part in the serious

responsibility. To say that in the past they had never thought of

war is to say a thing not true. And there is no doubt that all the

diplomatic documents published before and during the War show in

Russia, above all, a situation which inevitably would soon lead to

war. In the Balkans, especially in Serbia, Russia was pursuing a

cynical and shameless policy of corruption, nourishing and exciting

every ferment of revolt against Austria-Hungary. Russian policy in

Serbia was really criminal. Everyone in Germany was convinced that

Russia was preparing for war. The Tsar's pacificist ideas were of no

importance whatever. In absolute monarchies it is an illusion to think

that the sovereign, though apparently an autocrat, acts in accordance

with his own views. His views are almost invariably those of the

people round him; he does not even receive news in its true form, but

in the form given it by officials. Russia was an unwieldy giant who

had shown signs of madness long before the actual revolution. It

is impossible that a collective madness such as that which has had

possession of Russia for three years could be produced on the spur of

the moment; the regime of autocracy contained in itself the germs

of Bolshevism and violence. Bolshevism cannot properly be judged by

Western notions; it is not a revolutionary movement of the people; it

is, as I have said before, the religious fanaticism of the Eastern

Orthodox rising from the dead body of Tsarist despotism. Bolshevism,

centralizing and bureaucratic, follows the same lines as the imperial

policy of almost every Tsar.

Undoubtedly the greatest responsibility for the War lies on Germany.

If it has not to bear all the responsibility, as the treaties claim,

it has to bear the largest share; and the responsibility lies, rather

than on the shoulders of the Emperor and the quite ordinary men

who surrounded him, on those of the military caste and some great

industrial groups. The crazy writings of General von Bernhardi and

other scandalous publications of the same sort expressed, more than

just theoretical views, the real hopes and tendencies of the whole

military caste. It is true enough that there existed in Germany a real

democratic society under the control of the civil government, but

there was the military caste too, with privileges in social life and a

special position in the life of the State. This caste was educated in

the conception of violence as the means of power and grandeur. When a

country has allowed the military and social theories of General von

Bernhardi and the senselessly criminal pronouncements of the Emperor

William II to prevail for so many years, it has put the most

formidable weapons possible into the hands of its enemies. The people

who governed Germany for so long have no right to complain now of the

conditions in which their country is placed. But the great German

people, hardworking and persevering, has full right to look on such

conditions as the negation of justice. The head of a European State, a

man of the clearest view and calmest judgment, speaking to me of the

Emperor William, of whose character and intellect he thought very

little, expressed the view that the Emperor did not want war, but that

he would not avoid it when he had the chance.

The truth is that Germany troubled itself very little about France.

Kinderlen Wächter, the most intelligent of the German Foreign

Ministers, and perhaps the one most opposed to the War, when he

outlined to me the situation as it was ten years ago, showed no

anxiety at all except in regard to Russia. Russia might make war, and

it was necessary to be ready or to see that it came about at a moment

when victory was certain if conditions did not change. Germany had no

reason at all for making war on France from the time that it had got

well ahead of that country in industry, commerce and navigation. It

is true that there were a certain number of unbalanced people in the

metal industry who talked complacently of French iron and stirred up

the yellow press, just as in France to-day there are many industrials

with their eyes fixed on German coal which they want to seize as far

as possible. But the intellectuals, the politicians, even military

circles, had no anxiety at all except with regard to Russia.

There were mistaken views in German policy, no doubt, but at the same

time there was real anxiety about her national existence. With a huge

population and limited resources, with few colonies, owing to her

late arrival in the competition for them, Germany looked on the

never-ceasing desire of Russia for Constantinople as the ruin of her

policy of expansion in the East.

And in actual fact there was but one way by which the three great

Empires, which in population and extension of territory dominated

the greater part of Europe, could avoid war, and that was to join in

alliance among themselves or at least not to enter other alliances.

The three great Empires divided themselves into two allied groups.

From that moment, given the fact that in each of them the military

caste held power, that the principal decisions lay in the hands of a

few men not responsible to parliament; given the fact that Russia,

faithful to her traditional policy, aimed to draw into her political

orbit all the Slav peoples right down to the Adriatic and the Aegean

and Austria, was leaning toward the creation of a third Slav monarchy

in the dual kingdom, it was inevitable that sooner or later the

violence, intrigue and corruption with which we are familiar should

culminate in open conflict. Bismarck always saw that putting Russia

and Germany up against each other meant war.

Peoples, like individuals, are far from representing with anything

approaching completeness such social conceptions as we call violence

and right, honesty and bad faith, justice and injustice; each people

has its different characteristics, but no one people represents good,

or another bad, no one represents brutality, or another civilization.

All these meaningless phrases were brought out during the War,

according to which, as was said by one of the Prime Ministers of the

Entente, the War was the decisive struggle between the forces of

autocracy and liberty, between the dark powers of evil and violence

and the radiant powers of good and right. To-day all this causes

nothing but a smile. Such things are just speechifying, and banal at

that. Perhaps they were a necessity of War-time which might well be

made use of; when you are fighting for your very life you use every

means you have; when you are in imminent danger you do not choose your

weapons, you use everything to hand. All the War propaganda against

the German Empires, recounting, sometimes exaggerating, all the crimes

of the enemy, claiming that all the guilt was on the side of Germany,

describing German atrocities as a habit, almost a characteristic of

the German people, deriding German culture as a species of liquid

in which were bred the microbes of moral madness--all this was

legitimate, perhaps necessary, during the War. The reply to the

asphyxiating gas of the enemy was not only the same gas, but a

propaganda calculated to do more damage, and which, in fact, did do as

much damage as tanks and blockade.

But, when war is over, nothing should be put into a peace treaty

except such things as will lead to a lasting peace, or the most

lasting peace compatible with our degree of civilization.

On January 22, 1917, President Wilson explained the reasons why he

made the proposal to put an end to the War; he said in the American

Senate that the greatest danger lay in a peace imposed by conquerors

after victory. At that time it was said that there must be neither

conquerors nor conquered. A peace imposed after victory would be the

cause of so much humiliation and such intolerable sacrifices for the

conquered side, it would be so severe, it would give rise to so much

bitter feeling that it would not be a lasting peace, but one founded

on shifting sand.

In the spring of 1919, just before the most serious decisions were to

be taken, Lloyd George put before the conference a memorandum entitled

"_Some considerations for the Peace Conference before they finally

draft their terms_."

With his marvellously quick insight, after having listened to the

speeches of which force was the leading motive (the tendency round him

was not to establish a lasting peace but to vivisect Germany), Lloyd

George saw that it was not a true peace that was being prepared.

On March 25, 1919, Lloyd George presented the following memorandum to

the conference:

I

When nations are exhausted by wars in which they have put forth all

their strength and which leave them tired, bleeding and broken, it is

not difficult to patch up a peace that may last until the generation

which experienced the horrors of the war has passed away. Pictures

of heroism and triumph only tempt those who know nothing of the

sufferings and terrors of war. It is therefore comparatively easy to

patch up a peace which will last for thirty years.

What is difficult, however, is to draw up a peace which will not

provoke a fresh struggle when those who have had practical experience

of what war means have passed away. History has proved that a

peace which has been hailed by a victorious nation as a triumph of

diplomatic skill and statesmanship, even of moderation, in the long

run has proved itself to be short-sighted and charged with danger to

the victor. The peace of 1871 was believed by Germany to ensure not

only her security but her permanent supremacy. The facts have shown

exactly the contrary. France itself has demonstrated that those who

say you can make Germany so feeble that she will never be able to hit

back are utterly wrong. Year by year France became numerically weaker

in comparison with her victorious neighbour, but in reality she became

ever more powerful. She kept watch on Europe; she made alliance with

those whom Germany had wronged or menaced; she never ceased to warn

the world of its danger, and ultimately she was able to secure the

overthrow of the far mightier power which had trampled so brutally

upon her. You may strip Germany of her colonies, reduce her armaments

to a mere police force and her navy to that of a fifth-rate power; all

the same, in the end, if she feels that she has been unjustly treated

in the peace of 1919, she will find means of exacting retribution from

her conquerors. The impression, the deep impression, made upon the

human heart by four years of unexampled slaughter will disappear with

the hearts upon which it has been marked by the terrible sword of the

Great War. The maintenance of peace will then depend upon there

being no causes of exasperation constantly stirring up the spirit of

patriotism, of justice or of fair play to achieve redress. Our terms

may be severe, they may be stern and even ruthless, but at the same

time they can be so just that the country on which they are imposed

will feel in its heart that it has no right to complain. But

injustice, arrogance, displayed in the hour of triumph, will never be

forgotten nor forgiven.

For these reasons I am, therefore, strongly averse to transferring

more Germans from German rule to the rule of some other nation than

can possibly be helped. I cannot conceive any greater cause of future

war than that the German people, who have certainly proved themselves

one of the most vigorous and powerful races in the world, should be

surrounded by a number of small states, many of them consisting of

people who have never previously set up a stable government for

themselves, but each of them containing large masses of Germans

clamouring for reunion with their native land. The proposal of the

Polish Commission that we should place 2,100,000 Germans under the

control of a people of a different religion and which has never proved

its capacity for stable self-government throughout its history, must,

in my judgment, lead sooner or later to a new war in the East of

Europe. What I have said about the Germans is equally true about the

Magyars. There will never be peace in South-Eastern Europe if every

little state now coming into being is to have a large Magyar Irredenta

within its borders.

I would therefore take as a guiding principle of the peace that as

far as is humanly possible the different races should be allocated

to their motherlands, and that this human criterion should have

precedence over considerations of strategy or economics or

communications, which can usually be adjusted by other means.

Secondly, I would say that the duration for the payments of reparation

ought to disappear if possible with the generation which made the war.

But there is a consideration in favour of a long-sighted peace which

influences me even more than the desire to leave no causes justifying

a fresh outbreak thirty years hence. There is one element in the

present condition of nations which differentiates it from the

situation as it was in 1815. In the Napoleonic Wars the countries were

equally exhausted, but the revolutionary spirit had spent its force

in the country of its birth, and Germany had satisfied the legitimate

popular demands for the time being by a series of economic changes

which were inspired by courage, foresight and high statesmanship. Even

in Russia the Tsar had effected great reforms which were probably

at that time even too advanced for the half-savage population. The

situation is very different now. The revolution is still in its

infancy. The extreme figures of the Terror are still in command in

Russia. The whole of Europe is filled with the spirit of revolution.

There is a deep sense not only of discontent, but of anger and revolt

among the workmen against pre-war conditions. The whole existing

order, in its political, social and economic aspects is questioned by

the masses of the population from one end of Europe to the other. In

some countries, like Germany and Russia, the unrest takes the form of

open rebellion, in others, like France, Great Britain and Italy, it

takes the shape of strikes and of general disinclination to settle

down to work, symptoms which are just as much concerned with the

desire for political and social change as with wage demands.

Much of this unrest is healthy. We shall never make a lasting peace by

attempting to restore the conditions of 1914. But there is a danger

that we may throw the masses of the population throughout Europe into

the arms of the extremists, whose only idea for regenerating mankind

is to destroy utterly the whole existing fabric of society. These

men have triumphed in Russia. They have done so at a terrible price.

Hundreds and thousands of the population have perished. The railways,

the roads, the towns, the whole structural organization of Russia has

been almost destroyed, but somehow or other they seem to have managed

to keep their hold upon the masses of the Russian people, and what is

much more significant, they have succeeded in creating a large army

which is apparently well directed and well disciplined, and is, as to

a great part of it, prepared to die for its ideals. In another year

Russia, inspired by a new enthusiasm, may have recovered from her

passion for peace and have at her command the only army eager to

fight, because it is the only army that believes that it has any cause

to fight for.

The greatest danger that I see in the present situation is that

Germany may throw in her lot with Bolshevism and place her resources,

her brains, her vast organizing power at the disposal of the

revolutionary fanatics whose dream it is to conquer the world for

Bolshevism by force of arms. This danger is no mere chimera. The

present government in Germany is weak; its authority is challenged; it

lingers merely because there is no alternative but the Spartacists,

and Germany is not ready for Spartacism, as yet. But the argument

which the Spartacists are using with great effect at this very time is

that they alone can save Germany from the intolerable conditions which

have been bequeathed her by the War. They offer to free the German

people from indebtedness to the Allies and indebtedness to their own

richer classes. They offer them complete control of their own affairs

and the prospect of a new heaven and earth. It is true that the price

will be heavy. There will be two or three years of anarchy, perhaps

of bloodshed, but at the end the land will remain, the people will

remain, the greater part of the houses and the factories will remain,

and the railways and the roads will remain, and Germany, having thrown

off her burdens, will be able to make a fresh start.

If Germany goes over to the Spartacists it is inevitable that she

should throw in her lot with the Russian Bolshevists. Once that

happens all Eastern Europe will be swept into the orbit of the

Bolshevik revolution, and within a year we may witness the spectacle

of nearly three hundred million people organized into a vast red army

under German instructors and German generals, equipped with German

cannon and German machine guns and prepared for a renewal of the

attack on Western Europe. This is a prospect which no one can face

with equanimity. Yet the news which came from Hungary yesterday shows

only too clearly that this danger is no fantasy. And what are the

reasons alleged for this decision? They are mainly the belief that

large numbers of Magyars are to be handed over to the control of

others. If we are wise, we shall offer to Germany a peace, which,

while just, will be preferable for all sensible men to the alternative

of Bolshevism. I would therefore put it in the forefront of the peace

that once she accepts our terms, especially reparation, we will open

to her the raw materials and markets of the world on equal terms with

ourselves, and will do everything possible to enable the German people

to get upon their legs again. We cannot both cripple her and expect

her to pay.

Finally, we must offer terms which a responsible government in Germany

can expect to be able to carry out. If we present terms to Germany

which are unjust, or excessively onerous, no responsible government

will sign them; certainly the present weak administration will not.

If it did, I am told that it would be swept away within twenty-four

hours. Yet if we can find nobody in Germany who will put his hand to

a peace treaty, what will be the position? A large army of occupation

for an indefinite period is out of the question. Germany would not

mind it. A very large number of people in that country would welcome

it, as it would be the only hope of preserving the existing order of

things. The objection would not come from Germany, but from our own

countries. Neither the British Empire nor America would agree to

occupy Germany. France by itself could not bear the burden of

occupation. We should therefore be driven back on the policy of

blockading the country. That would inevitably mean Spartacism from the

Urals to the Rhine, with its inevitable consequence of a huge red army

attempting to cross the Rhine. As a matter of fact, I am doubtful

whether public opinion would allow us deliberately to starve Germany.

If the only difference between Germany and ourselves were between

onerous terms and moderate terms, I very much doubt if public opinion

would tolerate the deliberate condemnation of millions of women and

children to death by starvation. If so, the Allies would have incurred

the moral defeat of having attempted to impose terms on Germany which

Germany had successfully resisted.

From every point of view, therefore, it seems to me that we ought

to endeavour to draw up a peace settlement as if we were impartial

arbiters, forgetful of the passions of the war. This settlement ought

to have three ends in view.

First of all it must do justice to the Allies, by taking into account

Germany's responsibility for the origin of the War, and for the way in

which it was fought.

Secondly, it must be a settlement which a responsible German

government can sign in the belief that it can fulfil the obligations

it incurs.

Thirdly, it must be a settlement which will contain in itself no

provocations for future wars, and which will constitute an alternative

to Bolshevism, because it will commend itself to all reasonable

opinion as a fair settlement of the European problem.

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