CHAPTER III.

FORMATION OF THE JOINT COMMITTEE ON RECONSTRUCTION.

Lack of Excitement -- Cause -- The Resolution -- Dilatory

Motions -- Yeas and Nays -- Proposed Amendments in the

Senate -- Debate in the Senate -- Mr. Howard -- Mr. Anthony

-- Mr. Doolittle -- Mr. Fessenden -- Mr. Saulsbury -- Mr.

Hendricks -- Mr. Trumbull -- Mr. Guthrie -- Passage of the

Resolution in the Senate -- Yeas and Nays -- Remarks of Mr.

Stevens on the Amendments of the Senate -- Concurrence of

the House -- The Committee appointed.

Since it was known throughout the country that members-elect from

Tennessee and other States recently in rebellion would appear at

Washington on the opening of the Thirty-ninth Congress, and demand

recognition of their right to represent their constituents, all eyes

were turned to observe the action which would be taken on the subject.

It was anticipated that the question would be sprung at once, and that

a season of storm and excitement would ensue, unparalleled in the

political history of the nation. Since the American people are

exceedingly fond of excitements and sensations, the expectation of

trouble in Congress drew immense numbers to its galleries on the first

day of the session. Lovers of sensation were doomed to disappointment.

Correspondents and reporters for the press, who were prepared to

furnish for the newspapers descriptions of an opening of Congress

"dangerously boisterous," were compelled to describe it as

"exceptionally quiet."

The cause of this unexpected state of things was the fact that the

majority had previously come to the wise conclusion that it would not

be well to pass upon the admission of Southern members in open session

and amid the confusion of organization. As there was so much

difference of opinion concerning the _status_ of the communities

recently in rebellion, and such a variety of considerations must be

regarded in reaching wise conclusions, it was deemed advisable that

the whole subject should be calmly and deliberately investigated by a

select number of able and patriotic men from both Houses of Congress.

Accordingly, on the first day of the session, soon after the House was

organized, Mr. Thaddeus Stevens offered the following important

RESOLUTION:

"_Resolved_, by the Senate and House of Representatives in

Congress assembled, that a joint committee of fifteen

members shall be appointed, nine of whom shall be members of

the House, and six members of the Senate, who shall inquire

into the condition of the States which formed the so-called

Confederate States of America, and report whether they or

any of them are entitled to be represented in either House

of Congress, with leave to report at any time by bill or

otherwise; and until such report shall have been made, and

finally acted upon by Congress, no member shall be received

into either House from any of the said so-called Confederate

States; and all papers relating to the representation of the

said States shall be referred to the said committee without

debate."

To avoid the delay occasioned by a protracted debate, Mr. Stevens

called the previous question. The minority perceived the impossibility

of preventing the final passage of the resolution, yet deemed it their

duty to put it off as far as possible by their only available

means--"dilatory motions." They first objected to the introduction of

the resolution, under the rule that unanimous consent must be given to

permit a resolution to come before the House without notice given on a

previous day. To meet this difficulty, Mr. Stevens moved to suspend

the rules to enable him to introduce the resolution. On this motion

the yeas and nays were demanded. To suspend the rules under such

circumstances required a two-thirds' vote, which was given--one

hundred and twenty-nine voting for, and thirty-five against the

motion. The rules having been suspended, the resolution was regularly

before the House. A motion was then made to lay the resolution on the

table, and the yeas and nays demanded. Thirty-seven were in favor of

the motion, and one hundred and thirty-three against it. Before a call

for the previous question is available to cut off debate, it must, by

the rules of the House, be seconded by one-fifth of the members

present. This having been done, the vote was taken by yeas and nays on

the concurrent resolution submitted by Mr. Stevens. One hundred and

thirty-three voted in favor of the resolution, and thirty-six against

it, while thirteen were reported as "not voting." As this vote was on

an important measure, and is significant as marking with considerable

accuracy the political complexion of the House of Representatives, it

should be given in detail.

The following are the names of those who voted "Yea:"

Messrs. Alley, Allison, Ames, Anderson, Baker, Baldwin,

Banks, Barker, Baxter, Beaman, Benjamin, Bidwell, Bingham,

Blow, Boutwell, Brandegee, Bromwell, Broomall, Buckland,

Bundy, Reader W. Clark, Sidney Clark, Cobb, Conkling, Cook,

Cullom, Culver, Darling, Davis, Dawes, Defrees, Delano,

Deming, Dixon, Donnelly, Driggs, Dumont, Eckley, Eggleston,

Eliot, Farnsworth, Ferry, Garfield, Grinnell, Griswold,

Hale, Abner C. Harding, Hart, Hayes, Henderson, Higby, Hill,

Holmes, Hooper, Hotchkiss, Asahel W. Hubbard, John H.

Hubbard, Chester D. Hubbard, Demas Hubbard, James R.

Hubbell, Hulburd, James Humphrey, Ingersoll, Jenckes,

Julian, Kasson, Kelley, Kelso, Ketchum, Kuykendall, Laflin,

Latham, George V. Lawrence, William Lawrence, Loan,

Longyear, Lynch, Marston, Marvin, McClurg, McIndoe, McKee,

McRuer, Mercur, Miller, Moorhead, Morrill, Morris, Moulton,

Myers, Newell, O'Neill, Orthe, Paine, Patterson, Perham,

Phelps, Pike, Pomeroy, Price, William H. Randall, Raymond,

Alexander H. Rice, John H. Rice, Rollins, Sawyer, Schenck,

Scofield, Shellabarger, Smith, Spaulding, Starr, Stevens,

Stilwell, Thayer, John L. Thomas, Trowbridge, Upson, Van

Aernam, Burt Van Horn, Robert Van Horn, Ward, Warner, Elihu

B. Washburne, Welker, Wentworth, Whaley, Williams, James F.

Wilson, Windom, and Woodbridge.

The following members voted "Nay:"

Messrs. Ancona, Bergen, Boyer, Brooks, Chanler, Dawson,

Denison, Eldridge, Finck, Glossbrenner, Goodyear, Grider,

Aaron Harding, Hogan, James M. Humphrey, Johnson, Kerr, Le

Blond, McCullough, Niblack, Nicholson, Noell, Radford,

Samuel J. Randall, Ritter, Rogers, Ross, Shanklin,

Sitgreaves, Strouse, Tabor, Taylor, Thornton, Trimble,

Winfield, and Wright.

The following are reported as "not voting:"

Messrs. Delos R. Ashley, James M. Ashley, Blaine, Farquhar,

Harris, Edwin N. Hubbell, Jones, Marshall, Plants, Rousseau,

Sloan, Francis Thomas, Voorhees, and William B. Washburn.

Thus the resolution passed the House. The immense size of this body

required that, by stringent rule, debate should have limitation, and

even sometimes be cut off altogether by the operation of previous

question. This arrangement enabled skillful and resolute leaders to

carry through this measure within an hour's time, whereas, in the

Senate, a body of less than one-third the size, it passed after a

delay of several days, and at the end of a discussion of considerable

length.

On the day following the passage of the resolution in the House of

Representatives, it was read in the Senate. Mr. Johnson, of Maryland,

objecting to its being considered on the day of its reception, under a

regulation of the Senate it was postponed.

After the lapse of a week, on Tuesday, December 12, the resolution was

taken up for consideration in the Senate. Mr. Anthony moved to amend

the enacting clause so as to change it from a joint resolution to a

concurrent resolution, since, under its original shape, it would

require the President's approval.

This amendment having been made, Mr. Anthony moved to further amend

the resolution by striking out all after the word "otherwise." The

following are the words proposed to be stricken out:

"And until such report shall have been made and finally

acted on by Congress, no member shall be received into

either house from any of the said so-called Confederate

States; and all papers relating to the representation of

said States shall be referred to the said committee without

debate."

Mr. Howard, of Michigan, preferred the resolution as it came from the

House of Representatives. "It contains within itself a pledge on the

part of the two houses, that until the report of this important

committee shall have been presented, we will not reädmit any of the

rebel States, either by the recognition of their Senators or their

Representatives. I think the country expects nothing less than this at

our hands. I think that portion of the loyal people of the United

States who have sacrificed so much of blood and treasure in the

prosecution of the war, and who secured to us the signal victory which

we have achieved over the rebellion, have a right to at least this

assurance at our hands, that neither house of Congress will recognize

as States any one of the rebel States until the event to which I have

alluded.

"Sir, what is the present position and _status_ of the rebel States?

In my judgment they are simply conquered communities, subjugated by

the arms of the United States; communities in which the right of

self-government does not now exist. Why? Because they have been for

the last four years hostile, to the most surprising unanimity hostile,

to the authority of the United States, and have, during that period,

been waging a bloody war against that authority. They are simply

conquered communities, and we hold them, as we know well, as the world

knows to-day, not by their own free will and consent as members of the

Union, but solely by virtue of our military power, which is executed

to that effect throughout the length and breadth of the rebel States.

There is in those States no rightful authority, according to my view,

at this time, but that of the United States; and every political act,

every governmental act exercised within their limits, must necessarily

be exercised and performed under the sanction and by the will of the

conqueror.

"In short, sir, they are not to-day loyal States; their population are

not willing to-day, if we are rightly informed, to perform peaceably,

quietly, and efficiently the duties which pertain to the population of

a State in the Union and of the Union; and for one I can not consent

to recognize them, even indirectly, as entitled to be represented in

either house of Congress at this time. The time has not yet come, in

my judgment, to do this. I think that, under present circumstances, it

is due to the country that we should give them the assurance that we

will not thus hastily reädmit to seats in the legislative bodies here

the representatives of constituencies who are still hostile to the

authority of the United States. I think that such constituencies are

not entitled to be represented here."

Mr. Anthony, of Rhode Island, said: "The amendment was proposed from

no opposition to what I understand to be the purpose of the words

stricken out. That purpose I understand to be that both houses shall

act in concert in any measures which they may take for the

reconstruction of the States lately in rebellion. I think that that

object is eminently desirable, and not only that the two houses shall

act in concert, but that Congress shall act in concert with the

Executive; that all branches of the Government shall approach this

great question in a spirit of comprehensive patriotism, with

confidence in each other, with a conciliatory temper toward each

other, and that each branch of the Government will be ready, if

necessary, to concede something of their own views in order to meet

the views of those who are equally charged with the responsibility of

public affairs.

"The words proposed to be stricken out refer to the joint committee of

the two houses of Congress matters which the Constitution confides to

each house separately. Each house is made, by the Constitution, the

judge of the elections, returns, and qualifications of its own

members.

"There is one other reason why I move this amendment, and that is,

that the resolution provides that papers shall be referred to this

committee without debate. This is contrary to the practice of the

Senate. The House of Representatives has found it necessary, for the

orderly transaction of its business, to put limitations upon debate,

hence the previous question and the hour rule; but the Senate has

always resisted every proposition of this kind, and submitted to any

inconvenience rather than check free discussion. Senators around me,

who were here in the minority, felt that the right of debate was a

very precious one to them at that time, and, as it was not taken from

them, they are not disposed to take it from the minority now.

"The purpose of all that is stricken out can be effected by the

separate action of the two houses, if they shall so elect. The House

of Representatives, having passed this resolution by a great vote,

will undoubtedly adopt, in a separate resolution, what is here

stricken out; and, except so far as relates to the restriction upon

debate, I shall, if this amendment be adopted and the resolution

passed, offer a resolution substantially declaring it to be the

opinion of the Senate that, until this committee reports--presuming

that it will report in a reasonable time--no action should be taken

upon the representation of the States lately in rebellion."

Mr. Doolittle, of Wisconsin, said: "All of these great questions,

concerning reconstruction, pacification, and restoration of civil

government in the Southern States, representation in this body, or any

thing which concerns of Federal relations with the several States,

ought to be referred to the Committee on the Judiciary. Such has been

the practice of this Government from the beginning. Great questions of

constitutional law, questions concerning the relations of the Union to

the States and the States to the Union, and above all, and without any

exception, all questions relating to representation in this body, to

its membership, have always been referred to the Judiciary Committee.

"There is nothing in the history of the Senate, there is nothing in

the constitution of this committee, which would send these great

constitutional questions for advisement and consideration to any other

committee than the Committee on the Judiciary. To place their

consideration in the hands of a committee which is beyond the control

of the Senate, is to distrust ourselves; and to vote to send their

consideration to any other committee, is equivalent to a vote of want

of confidence in the Judiciary Committee.

"I object to this resolution, because, upon these great questions

which are to go to the joint committee, the Senate does not stand upon

an equality with the House. This resolution provides that, of the

joint committee of fifteen, nine shall be appointed by the House of

Representatives, six only by the Senate, giving to the House portion

of the committee a majority of three. We all know that in joint

committees the members vote, not as the representatives of the two

houses, but _per capita_. The vote of a member of the committee from

the House weighs precisely the same as the vote of a member of the

committee from the Senate; so that, to all intents and purposes, if we

pass this concurrent resolution, which we can not repeal but by the

concurrence of the other house, we place the consideration of these

grave questions in the hands of a committee which we can not control,

and in which we have no equal voice.

"Under the Constitution, upon all subjects of legislation but one, the

two houses are equal and coördinate branches of Congress. That one

relates to their representation in the bodies, to their membership,

that which constitutes their existence, which is essential to their

life and their independence. That is confided to each house, and to

each house alone, to act for itself. It judges for itself upon the

elections, returns, and qualifications of its members. It judges, it

admits, it punishes, it expels. It can not share that responsibility

with any other department of the Government. It can no more share it

with the other house than it can share it with the Supreme Court or

with the President. It is a matter over which its jurisdiction is

exclusive of every other jurisdiction. It is a matter in which its

decisions, right or wrong, are absolute and without appeal. In my

opinion the Senate of the United States can not give to a committee

beyond its control this question of the representation in this body,

without a loss of its self-respect, its dignity, its independence;

without an abandonment of its constitutional duty and a surrender of

its constitutional powers.

"There is another provision in this resolution, as it stands, that we

shall refer every paper to the committee without debate. Yes, sir, the

Senate of the United States is to be led like a lamb to the slaughter,

bound hand and foot, shorn of its constitutional power, and gagged,

dumb; like the sheep brought to the block! Is this the condition to

which the Senator from Michigan proposes to reduce the Senate of the

United States by insisting upon such a provision as that contained in

the resolution as it comes from the House of Representatives?

"There is a still graver objection to this resolution as it stands.

The provision that 'until such report shall have been made and finally

acted on by Congress, no member shall be received into either house

from any of the so-called Confederate States,' is a provision which,

by law, excludes those eleven States from their representation in the

Union. Sir, pass that resolution as it stands, and let it receive the

signature of the President, and you have accomplished what the

rebellion could not accomplish, what the sacrifice of half a million

men could not accomplish in warring against this Government--you have

dissolved the Union by act of Congress. Sir, are we prepared to

sanction that? I trust never.

"The Senator from Michigan talks about the _status_ of these States.

He may very properly raise the question whether they have any

Legislatures that are capable of electing Senators to this body. That

is a question of fact to be considered; but as to whether they are

States, and States still within the Union, notwithstanding their civil

form of government has been overturned by the rebellion, and their

Legislatures have been disorganized, that they are still States in

this Union is the most sacred truth and the dearest truth to every

American heart, and it will be maintained by the American people

against all opposition, come from what quarter it may. Sir, the flag

that now floats on the top of this Capitol bears thirty-six stars.

Every star represents a State in this Union. I ask the Senator from

Michigan, does that flag, as it floats there, speak the nation's truth

to our people and to the world, or is it a hypocritical, flaunting

lie? That flag has been borne at the head of our conquering legions

through the whole South, planted at Vicksburg, planted at Columbia,

Savannah, Charleston, Sumter; the same old flag which came down before

the rebellion at Sumter was raised up again, and it still bore the

same glorious stars; 'not a star obscured,' not one.

"These people have been disorganized in their civil governments in

consequence of the war; the rebels overturned civil government in the

first place, and we entered with our armies and captured the

rebellion; but did that destroy the States? Not at all. We entered the

States to save them, not to destroy them. The guarantee of the

Constitution is a guarantee to the States, and to every one of the

States, and the obligation that rests upon us is to guarantee to South

Carolina a republican form of government as a State in this Union, and

not as a Territory. No State nor the people of any State had any power

to withdraw from the Union. They could not do it peacefully; they

undertook to do it by arms. We crushed the attempt; we trampled their

armies under our feet; we captured the rebellion; the States are ours;

and we entered them to save, and not to destroy.

"The Constitution of the United States requires the President, from

time to time, to give to Congress information of the state of the

Union. Who has any right to presume that the President will not

furnish the information which his constitutional duty requires? He has

at his control all the agencies which are necessary. There is the able

Cabinet who surround him, with all the officers appointed under them:

the post-masters under the Post-office Department, the treasury agents

under the Treasury Department, and almost two hundred thousand men

under the control of the War Department, in every part of this

'disaffected' region, who can bring to the President information from

every quarter of all the transactions that exist there. That the

President of the United States will be sustained, in the views which

he takes in his message, by the people of this country, is as certain

as the revolutions of the earth; and it is our duty to act

harmoniously with him, to sustain him, to hold up his hands, to

strengthen his heart, to speak to him words of faith, friendship, and

courage.

"I know that in all these Southern States there are a thousand things

to give us pain, sometimes alarm, but notwithstanding the bad

appearance which from time to time presents itself in the midst of

that boiling caldron of passion and excitement which the war has left

still raging there, the real progress which we have made has been most

wonderful. I am one of those who look forward with hope, for I believe

God reigns and rules in the affairs of mankind. I look beyond the

excitement of the hour and all the outbreaking passion which sometimes

shows itself in the South, which leads them to make enactments in

their Legislatures which are disgraceful to themselves, and can never

be sanctioned by the people of this country, and also in spite of all

the excitement of the North, I behold the future full of confidence

and hope. We have only to come up like men, and stand as the real

friends of the country and the Administration, and give to the policy

of the President a fair and substantial trial, and all will be well."

Mr. Fessenden, of Maine, then remarked: "When this resolution was

first promulgated in the newspapers as having been agreed upon, I

approved it because I sympathized with its object and purpose. I did

not examine it particularly; but, looking simply at what it was

designed for, it met my approbation simply for this reason: that this

question of the reädmission of these Confederate States, so called,

and all the questions connected with that subject, I conceived to be

of infinite importance, requiring calm and serious consideration, and

I believe that the appointment of a committee, carefully selected by

the two houses, to take that subject into consideration, was not only

wise in itself, but an imperative duty resting upon the

representatives of the people in the two branches of Congress. For

myself, I was not prepared to act upon that question at once. I am not

one of those who pin their faith upon any body, however eminent in

position, or conceive themselves obliged, on a question of great

national importance, to follow out any body's opinions simply because

he is in a position to make those opinions, perhaps, somewhat more

imperative than any other citizen of the republic. Talk about the

Administration! Sir, we are a part of the Administration, and a very

important part of it. I have no idea of abandoning the prerogatives,

the rights, and the duties of my position in favor of any body,

however that person or any number of persons may desire it. In saying

this, I am not about to express an opinion upon the subject any

further than I have expressed it, and that is, that in questions of

such infinite importance as this, involving the integrity and welfare

of the republic in all future time, we are solemnly bound, and our

constituents will demand of us that we examine them with care and

fidelity, and act on our own convictions and not upon the convictions

of others.

"I do not agree with the honorable Senator from Wisconsin, that by

passing a simple resolution raising a committee of our own body, and

referring to it certain papers, if we conclude to do so, we are

infringing upon the rights of any body or making an intimation with

regard to any policy that the President may have seen fit to adopt and

recommend to the country. Sir, I trust there are no such things as

exclusive friends of the President among us, or gentlemen who desire

to be so considered. I have as much respect for the President of the

United States probably as any man. I acted with him long, and I might

express the favorable opinions which I entertain of him here, if they

would not be out of place and in bad taste in this body. That I am

disposed and ready to support him to the best of my ability, as every

gentleman around me is, in good faith and with kind feeling in all

that he may desire that is consistent with my views of duty to the

country, giving him credit for intentions as good as mine, and with

ability far greater, I am ready to asseverate.

"But, sir, I do not agree with the doctrine, and I desire to enter my

dissent to it now and here, that, because a certain line of policy has

been adopted by one branch of the Government, or certain views are

entertained by one branch of the Government, therefore, for that

reason alone and none other, that is to be tried, even if it is

against my judgment; and I do not say that it is or is not. That is a

question to be considered. I have a great respect, not for myself,

perhaps, but for the position which I hold as a Senator of the United

States; and no measure of Government, no policy of the President, or

of the head of a department, shall pass me while I am a Senator, if I

know it, until I have examined it and given my assent to it; not on

account of the source from which it emanates, but on account of its

own intrinsic merits, and because I believe it will result in the good

of my country. That is my duty as a Senator, and I fear no

misconstruction at home on this subject or any other.

"Now, therefore, sir, I hope that, laying aside all these matters,

which are entirely foreign, we shall act upon this resolution simply

as a matter of business. No one has a right to complain of it that we

raise a committee for certain purposes of our own when we judge it to

be necessary. It is an imputation upon nobody; it is an insult to

nobody; it is not any thing which any sensible man could ever find

fault with, or be disposed to do so. It is our judgment, our

deliberate judgment, our friendly judgment--a course of action adopted

from regard to the good of the community, and that good of the

community comprehends the good of every individual in it."

Mr. Saulsbury, of Delaware, said: "This resolution is very

objectionable to my mind. It is for the appointment of a committee of

the two houses to determine and to report upon what? The right of

representation of eleven States in this body. What determines the

rights of those States to representation here? Is it the views of the

members of the House of Representatives? Do we stand in need of any

light, however bright it may be, that may come from that distinguished

quarter? Are we going to ask them to illuminate us by wisdom, and

report the fact to us whether those States are entitled to

representation on this floor?

"Mr. President, on the first day of your assemblage after the battle

of Manassas, you and they declared, by joint resolution, that the

object for which the war was waged was for no purpose of conquest or

subjugation, but it was to preserve the union of the States, and to

maintain the rights, dignity, and equality of the several States

unimpaired. While that war was being waged there was no action, either

of this house or of the House of Representatives, declaring that, when

it was over, the existence of those States should be ignored, or their

right to representation in Congress denied. Throughout the whole

contest the battle-cry was 'the preservation of the Union' and 'the

Union of the States.' If there was a voice then raised that those

States had ceased to have an existence in this body, it was so feeble

as to be passed by and totally disregarded.

"Sir, suppose this committee should report that those States are not

entitled to representation in this body, are you bound by their

action? Is there not a higher law, the supreme law of the land, which

says if they be States that they shall each be entitled to two

Senators on this floor? And shall a report of a joint committee of the

two houses override and overrule the fundamental law of the land? Sir,

it is dangerous as a precedent, and I protest against it as an humble

member of this body. If they be not States, then the object avowed for

which the war was waged was false."

Mr. Hendricks, of Indiana, said: "I shall vote against this resolution

because it refers to a joint committee a subject which, according to

my judgment, belongs exclusively to the Senate. I know that the

resolution no longer provides in express terms that the Senate,

pending the continuance of the investigation of this committee, will

not consider the question of credentials from these States, but in

effect it amounts to that. The question is to be referred to the

committee, and according to usage, and it would seem to be the very

purpose of reference that the body shall not consider the subject

while the question is before them. I could not vote for a resolution

that refers to a joint committee a subject that this body alone can

decide. If there are credentials presented here, this body must decide

the question whether the person presenting the credentials is entitled

to a seat; and how can this body be influenced by any committee other

than a committee that it shall raise itself?"

Mr. Trumbull, of Illinois, then followed: "If I understood the

resolution as the Senator from Indiana does, I should certainly vote

with him; but I do not so understand it. It is simply a resolution

that a joint committee be raised to inquire into the condition of the

States which formed the so-called Confederate States of America, and

to report whether they or any of them are entitled to be represented

in either House of Congress, with leave to report at any time by bill

or otherwise. It is true, as the Senator says, that after having

raised this committee, the Senate will not be likely to take action in

regard to the admission of the Senators from any of these States until

the committee shall have had a reasonable time at least to act and

report; but it is very desirable that we should have joint action upon

this subject. It would produce a very awkward and undesirable state of

things if the House of Representatives were to admit members from one

of the lately rebellious States, and the Senate were to refuse to

receive Senators from the same State.

"We all know that the State organizations in certain States of the

Union have been usurped and overthrown. This is a fact of which we

must officially take notice. There was a time when the Senator from

Indiana, as well as myself, would not have thought of receiving a

Senator from the Legislature, or what purported to be the Legislature,

of South Carolina. When the people of that State, by their

Representatives, undertook to withdraw from the Union and set up an

independent government in that State, in hostility to the Union, when

the body acting as a Legislature there was avowedly acting against

this Government, neither he nor I would have received Representatives

from it. That was a usurpation which, by force of arms, we have put

down. Now the question arises, Has a State government since been

inaugurated there entitled to representation? Is not that a fair

subject of inquiry? Ought we not to be satisfied upon that point? We

do not make such an inquiry in reference to members that come from

States which have never undertaken to deny their allegiance to the

Government of the United States. Having once been admitted as States,

they continue so until by some positive act they throw off their

allegiance, and assume an attitude of hostility to the Government, and

make war upon it; and while in that condition, I know we should all

object that they, of course, could not be represented in the Congress

of the United States. Now, is it not a proper subject for inquiry to

ascertain whether they have assumed a position in harmony with the

Government? and is it not proper that that inquiry should be made the

subject of joint action?"

Mr. Guthrie, of Kentucky, wished to ask the friends of this resolution

if it was contemplated that this committee should take evidence, and

report that evidence to the two houses. "If," said he, "they are only

to take what is open to every member of the Senate, the fact that the

rebellion has been suppressed; the fact that the President of the

United States has appointed officers to collect the taxes, and, in

some instances, judges and other officers; that he has sent the

post-office into all the States; that there have been found enough

individuals loyal to the country to accept the offices; the fact that

the President has issued his proclamation to all these States,

appointing Provisional Governors; that they have all elected

conventions; that the conventions have rescinded the ordinances of

secession; that most of them have amended their constitutions and

abolished slavery, and the Legislatures of some of them have passed

the amendment to the Constitution on the subject of slavery--if they

are only to take these facts, which are open and clear to us all, I

can see no necessity for such a committee. My principal objection to

the resolution is, that this committee can give us no information

which we do not now possess, coupled with the fact that the loyal

conservative men of the United States, North, South, East, and West,

do most earnestly desire that we shall so act that there shall be no

longer a doubt that we are the United States of America, in full

accord and harmony with each other.

"I know it has been said that the President had no authority to do

these things. I read the Constitution and the laws of this country

differently. He is to 'take care that the laws be faithfully

executed;' he is to suppress insurrection and rebellion. The power is

put in his hands, and I do not see why, when he marches into a rebel

State, he has not authority to put down a rebel government and put up

a government that is friendly to the United States, and in accordance

with it. I do not see why he can not do that while the war goes on,

and I do not see why he may not do it after the war is over. The

people in those States lie at the mercy of the nation. I see no

usurpation in what he has done, and if the work is well done, I, for

one, am ready to accept it. Are we to send out a commission to see

what the men whom he has appointed have done? It is said that they are

not to be relied on; that they have been guilty of treason, and we

will not trust them. I hope that no such ideas will prevail here. I

think this will be a cold shock to the warm feelings of the nation for

restoration, for equal privileges and equal rights. They were in

insurrection. We have suppressed that insurrection. They are now

States of the Union; and if they come here according to the laws of

the States, they are entitled, in my judgment, to representation, and

we have no right to refuse it. They are in a minority, and they would

be in a minority even if they meant now what they felt when they

raised their arms against the Government; but they do not, and of

those whom they will send here to represent them, nineteen out of

twenty will be just as loyal as any of us--even some of those who took

up arms against us.

"I really hope to see some one move a modification of the test oath,

so that those who have repented of their disloyalty may not be

excluded, for I really believe that a great many of those who took up

arms honestly and wished to carry out the doctrines of secession, and

who have succumbed under the force of our arms and the great force of

public opinion, can be trusted a great deal more than those who did

not fight at all.

"To conclude, gentlemen, I see no great harm in this resolution except

the procrastination that will result from it, and that will give us

nothing but what we have before us."

The question being taken, the resolution, as amended, passed the

Senate, thirty-three voting in the affirmative and eleven in the

negative. The following are the names of those who voted for the

resolution:

Messrs. Anthony, Brown, Chandler, Clark, Conness, Creswell,

Fessenden, Foot, Foster, Grimes, Harris, Howard, Howe, Lane

of Indiana, Lane of Kansas, Morgan, Morrill, Norton, Nye,

Poland, Pomeroy, Ramsey, Sherman, Sprague, Stewart, Sumner,

Trumbull, Van Winkle, Wade, Willey, Williams, Wilson, and

Yates.

The following Senators voted against the resolution:

Messrs. Buckalew, Cowan, Dixon, Doolittle, Guthrie,

Hendricks, Johnson, Riddle, Saulsbury, Stockton, and Wright.

Five Senators were absent: Messrs. Cragin, Davis, Henderson,

McDougall, and Nesmith.

On the day succeeding the adoption of the concurrent resolution by the

Senate, the amendments of that body came before the House of

Representatives. Mr. Thaddeus Stevens moved that the House concur in

the amendments of the Senate. He said: "The Senate took what to them

appeared to be the proper view of their prerogatives, and, though they

did not seem to differ with us as to the main object, the mode of

getting at it with them was essential, and they very properly put the

resolution in the shape they considered right. They have changed the

form of the resolution so as not to require the assent of the

President; and they have also considered that each house should

determine for itself as to the reference of papers, by its own action

at the time. To this I see no objection, and, while moving to concur,

I will say now, that when it is in order I shall move, or some other

gentleman will move when his State is called, a resolution precisely

similar, or very nearly similar, to the provision which the Senate has

stricken out, only applicable to the House alone."

The House then concurred in the amendments of the Senate, so the

resolution passed in the following form:

"_Resolved_, by the House of Representatives (the Senate

concurring), That a joint committee of fifteen members shall

be appointed, nine of whom shall be members of the House,

and six members of the Senate, who shall inquire into the

condition of the States which formed the so-called

Confederate States of America, and report whether they, or

any of them, are entitled to be represented in either house

of Congress, with leave to report at any time, by bill or

otherwise."

A resolution subsequently passed the House, "That all papers offered

relative to the representation of the late so-called Confederate

States of America, shall be referred to the joint committee of fifteen

without debate, and no members shall be admitted from either of said

so-called States until Congress shall declare such States entitled to

representation."

On the fourteenth of December the Speaker announced the names of the

committee on the part of the House. They were: Thaddeus Stevens, Elihu

B. Washburn, Justin S. Morrill, Henry Grider, John A. Bingham, Roscoe

Conkling, George S. Boutwell, Henry T. Blow, and Andrew J. Rogers.

On the twenty-first of December the following gentlemen were announced

as members of the committee on the part of the Senate: William Pitt

Fessenden, James W. Grimes, Ira Harris, Jacob M. Howard, Reverdy

Johnson, and George H. Williams.

Thus, before the adjournment of Congress for the holidays, the Joint

Committee of Fifteen on Reconstruction had been appointed and

empowered to proceed with investigations of the utmost importance to

the country. Hated by the late insurgents of the South, who expected

little leniency at its hands; opposed by politicians at the North, who

viewed it as an obstacle in the way of their designs, and even

misrepresented by the President himself, who stigmatized it as a

"Central Directory," this committee went forward in the discharge of

its important duties, without fear or favor, having a marked influence

upon the doings of Congress and the destinies of the country.

Meanwhile other important measures were enlisting the attention of

Congress, and were proceeding, by the slow but steady steps of

parliamentary progress, to their final consummation.

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