CANTELUPE _picks up his papers, avoiding theoretical discussion._

CANTELUPE. Well now ... will you explain to me this project for endowing

Education with your surplus?

TREBELL. Putting Appropriation, the Buildings and the Representation

question on one side for the moment?

CANTELUPE. Candidly, I have yet to master your figures....

TREBELL. The roughest figures so far.

CANTELUPE. Still I have yet to master them on the first two points.

TREBELL. [_Firmly premising._] We agree that this is not diverting church

money to actually secular uses.

CANTELUPE. [_As he peeps from under his eyelids._] I can conceive that it

might not be. You know that we hold Education to be a Church function.

But....

TREBELL. Can you accept thoroughly now the secular solution for all Primary

Schools?

CANTELUPE. Haven't we always preferred it to the undenominational? Are there

to be facilities for _any_ of the teachers giving dogmatic instruction?

TREBELL. I note your emphasis on any. I think we can put the burden of that

decision on local authorities. Let us come to the question of Training

Colleges for your teachers. It's on that I want to make my bargain.

CANTELUPE. [_Alert and cautious._] You want to endow colleges?

TREBELL. Heavily.

CANTELUPE. Under public control?

TREBELL. Church colleges under Church control.

CANTELUPE. There'd be others?

TREBELL. To preserve the necessary balance in the schools.

CANTELUPE. Not founded with church money?

TREBELL. Think of the grants in aid that will be released. I must ask the

Treasury for a further lump sum and with that there may be sufficient for

secular colleges ... if you can agree with me upon the statutes of those

over which you'd otherwise have free control.

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