S. B.

[24] These things being long in agitation, & messengers passing too and

againe aboute them, after all their hopes they were long delayed by many

rubs that fell in y^e way; for at y^e returne of these messengers into

England they found things farr otherwise then they expected. For y^e

Virginia Counsell was now so disturbed with factions and quarrels

amongst them selves, as no bussines could well goe forward. The which

may the better appear in one of the messengers letters as followeth.

To his loving freinds, &c.

I had thought long since to have write unto you, but could not effecte

y^t which I aimed at, neither can yet sett things as I wished; yet,

notwithstanding, I doubt not but M^r. B. hath writen to M^r. Robinson.

But I thinke my selfe bound also to doe something, least I be thought

to neglecte you. The maine hinderance of our proseedings in y^e

Virginia bussines, is the dissentions and factions, as they terme it,

amongs y^e Counsell & Company of Virginia; which are such, as that

ever since we came up no busines could by them be dispatched. The

occasion of this trouble amongst them is, for that a while since S^r.

Thomas Smith, repining at his many offices & troubls, wished y^e

Company of Virginia to ease him of his office in being Treasurer &

Gover^r. of y^e Virginia Company. Wereupon y^e Company tooke occasion

to dismisse him, and chose S^r. Edwin Sands Treasure^r & Gover^r of

y^e Company. He having 60. voyces, S^r. John Worstenholme 16. voices,

and Alderman Johnsone 24. But S^r. Thomas Smith, when he saw some

parte of his honour lost, was very angrie, & raised a faction to

cavill & contend aboute y^e election, and sought to taxe S^r. Edwin

with many things that might both disgrace him, and allso put him by

his office of Governour. In which contentions they yet stick, and are

not fit nor readie to intermedle in any bussines; and what issue

things will come to we are not yet certaine. It is most like S^r.

Edwin will carrie it away, and if he doe, things will goe well in

Virginia; if otherwise, they will goe ill enough allways. We hope in

some 2. or 3. Court days things will setle. Mean space I thinke to goe

downe into Kente, & come up againe aboute 14. days, or 3. weeks hence;

except either by these afforesaid contentions, or by y^e ille tidings

from Virginia, we be wholy discouraged, of which tidings I am now to

speake.

Captaine Argoll is come home this weeke (he upon notice of y^e intente

of y^e Counsell, came away before S^r. Georg Yeardley came ther, and

so ther is no small dissention). But his tidings are ill, though his

person be wellcome. He saith M^r. Blackwells shipe came not ther till

March, but going towards winter, they had still norwest winds, which

carried them to the southward beyond their course. And y^e m^r of y^e

ship & some 6. of y^e mariners dieing, it seemed they could not find

y^e bay, till after long seeking & beating aboute. M^r. Blackwell is

dead, & M^r. Maggner, y^e Captain; yea, ther are dead, he saith, 130.

persons, one & other in y^t ship; it is said ther was in all an 180.

persons in y^e ship, so as they were packed togeather like herings.

They had amongst them y^e fluxe, and allso wante of fresh water; so as

it is hear rather wondred at y^t so many are alive, then that so many

are dead. The marchants hear say it was M^r. Blackwells faulte to pack

so many in y^e ship; yea, & ther were great mutterings & repinings

amongst them, and upbraiding of M^r. Blackwell, for his dealing and

dispossing of them, when they saw how he had dispossed of them, & how

he insulted over them. Yea, y^e streets at Gravsend runge of their

extreame quarrelings, crying out one of another, Thou hast brought me

to this, and, I may thanke the for this. Heavie newes it is, and I

would be glad to heare how farr it will discourage. I see none hear

discouraged much, [25] but rather desire to larne to beware by other

mens harmes, and to amend that wherin they have failed. As we desire

to serve one another in love, so take heed of being inthraled by any

imperious persone, espetially if they be discerned to have an eye to

them selves. It doth often trouble me to thinke that in this bussines

we are all to learne and none to teach; but better so, then to depend

upon such teachers as M^r. Blackwell was. Such a strategeme he once

made for M^r. Johnson & his people at Emden, w^ch was their

subversion. But though he ther clenlily (yet unhonstly) plucked his

neck out of y^e collar, yet at last his foote is caught. Hear are no

letters come, y^e ship captain Argole came in is yet in y^e west

parts; all y^t we hear is but his report; it seemeth he came away

secretly. The ship y^t M^r. Blackwell went in will be hear shortly. It

is as M^r. Robinson once said; he thought we should hear no good of

them.

M^r. B. is not well at this time; whether he will come back to you or

goe into y^e north, I yet know not. For my selfe, I hope to see an end

of this bussines ere I come, though I am sorie to be thus from you; if

things had gone roundly forward, I should have been with you within

these 14. days. I pray God directe us, and give us that spirite which

is fitting for such a bussines. Thus having su[=m]arily pointed at

things w^ch M^r. Brewster (I thinke) hath more largly write of to M^r.

Robinson, I leave you to the Lords protection.

Yours in all readines, &c.

ROBART CUSHMAN.

London, May 8.

An^o: 1619.

A word or tow by way of digression touching this M^r. Blackwell; he was

an elder of y^e church at Amsterdam, a man well known of most of them.

He declined from y^e trueth w^th M^r. Johnson & y^e rest, and went with

him when y^ey parted assunder in y^t wofull maner, w^ch brought so great

dishonour to God, scandall to y^e trueth, & outward ruine to them selves

in this world. But I hope, notwithstanding, through y^e mercies of y^e

Lord, their souls are now at rest with him in y^e heavens, and y^t they

are arrived in y^e Haven of hapines; though some of their bodies were

thus buried in y^e terrable seas, and others sunke under y^e burthen of

bitter afflictions. He with some others had prepared for to goe to

Virginia. And he, with sundrie godly citizens, being at a private

me[=e]ing (I take it a fast) in London, being discovered, many of them

were apprehended, wherof M^r. Blackwell was one; but he so glosed w^th

y^e b[~p]s,[N] and either dissembled or flatly denyed y^e trueth which

formerly he had maintained; and not only so, but very unworthily

betrayed and accused another godly man who had escaped, that so he

might slip his own neck out of y^e collar, & to obtaine his owne

freedome brought others into bonds. Wherupon he so wone y^e b[~p]s

favour (but lost y^e Lord's) as he was not only dismiste, but in open

courte y^e arch-bishop gave him great applause and his sollemne blessing

to proseed in his vioage. But if such events follow y^e b[~p]s blessing,

happie are they y^t misse y^e same; it is much better to keepe a good

conscience and have y^e Lords blessing, whether in life or death.

But see how y^e man thus apprehended by M^r. Blackwells means, writs to

a freind of his.

Right dear friend & christian brother, _M^r. Carver_, I salute you &

yours in y^e Lord, &c. As for my owne presente condition, I doubt not

but you well understand it ere this by our brother Maistersone, who

should have tasted of y^e same cupp, had his place of residence & his

person been as well knowne as my selfe. Some what I have written to

_M^r. Cushman_ how y^e matter _still continues_. I have petitioned

_twise_ to M^r. Sherives, and _once_ to my Lord Cooke, and have used

such reasons to move them to pittie, that if they were not overruled

by some others, I suppose I should soone gaine my libertie; as that I

was a yonge man living by my [26] credite, indebted to diverse in our

citie, living at more then ordinarie charges in a close & tedious

prison; besids great rents abroad, all my bussines lying still, my

only servante lying lame in y^e countrie, my wife being also great

with child. And yet no answer till y^e lords of his majesties Counsell

gave consente. Howbeit, M^r. Blackwell, a man as deepe in this action

as I, was delivered at a cheaper rate, with a great deale less adoe;

yea, with an addition of y^e Arch[~p]: blessing. I am sorie for M^r.

Blackwels weaknes, I wish it may prove no worse. But yet he & some

others of them, _before their going_, were not sorie, but thought it

was for y^e best that I was nominated, not because y^e Lord sanctifies

evill to good, but that y^e action was good, yea for y^e best. One

reason I well remember he used was, because this trouble would

encrease y^e Virginia plantation, in that now people begane to be more

generally inclined to goe; and if he had not nomminated some such as

I, he had not bene free, being it was knowne that diverse citizens

besids them selves were ther. I expecte an answer shortly what they

intende conscerning me; I purpose to write to some others of you, by

whom you shall know the certaintie. Thus not haveing further at

present to acquaint you withall, co[=m]ending myselfe to your prairs,

I cease, & co[=m]itte you and us all to y^e Lord.

From my chamber in Wodstreete Compter.

Your freind, & brother in bonds,

SABIN STARESMORE.

Sept^r: 4. An^o: 1618.

But thus much by y^e way, which may be of instruction & good use.

But at last, after all these things, and their long attendance, they had

a patent granted them, and confirmed under y^e Companies seale; but

these devissions and distractions had shaken of many of ther pretended

freinds, and disappointed them of much of their hoped for & proffered

means. By the advise of some freinds this pattente was not taken in y^e

name of any of their owne, but in y^e name of Mr. John Wincob (a

religious gentleman then belonging to y^e Countess of Lincoline), who

intended to goe with them. But God so disposed as he never went, nor

they ever made use of this patente, which had cost them so much labour

and charge, as by y^e sequell will appeare. This patente being sente

over for them to veiw & consider, as also the passages aboute y^e

propossitions between them & such marchants & freinds as should either

goe or adventure with them, and espetially with those[O] on whom y^ey

did cheefly depend for shipping and means, whose proffers had been

large, they were requested to fitt and prepare them selves with all

speed. A right emblime, it may be, of y^e uncertine things of this

world; y^t when men have toyld them selves for them, they vanish into

smoke.

The 6. Chap.

_Conscerning y^e agreements and artickles between them, and such

marchants & others as adventured moneys; with other things falling out

aboute making their provissions._

Upon y^e receite of these things by one of their messengers, they had a

sollemne meeting and a day of humilliation to seeke y^e Lord for his

direction; and their pastor tooke this texte, 1 _Sam_. 23. 3, 4. _And

David's men said unto him, see, we be afraid hear in Judah, how much

more if we come to Keilah against the host of the Phillistines? Then

David asked counsell of y^e Lord againe, &c._ From which texte he taught

many things very aptly, and befitting ther present occasion and

condition, strengthing them against their fears and perplexities, and

incouraging them in their resolutions. [27] After which they concluded

both what number and what persons should prepare them selves to goe with

y^e first; for all y^t were willing to have gone could not gett ready

for their other affairs in so shorte a time; neither if all could have

been ready, had ther been means to have trasported them alltogeather.

Those that staied being y^e greater number required y^e pastor to stay

with them; and indeede for other reasons he could not then well goe, and

so it was y^e more easilie yeelded unto. The other then desired y^e

elder, M^r. Brewster, to goe with them, which was also condescended

unto. It was also agreed on by mutuall consente and covenante, that

those that went should be an absolute church of them selves, as well as

those y^t staid; seing in such a dangrous vioage, and a removall to such

a distance, it might come to pass they should (for y^e body of them)

never meete againe in this world; yet with this proviso, that as any of

y^e rest came over to them, or of y^e other returned upon occasion, they

should be reputed as members without any further dismission or

testimoniall. It was allso promised to those y^t wente first, by y^e

body of y^e rest, that if y^e Lord gave them life, & me[=a]s, &

opportunitie, they would come to them as soone as they could.

Aboute this time, whilst they were perplexed with y^e proseedings of

y^e Virginia Company, & y^e ill news from thence aboute M^r. Blackwell &

his company, and making inquirey about y^e hiring & buying of shiping

for their vioage, some Dutchmen made them faire offers aboute goeing

with them. Also one M^r. Thomas Weston, a m^{r}chant of London, came to

Leyden aboute y^e same time, (who was well aquainted with some of them,

and a furtherer of them in their former proseedings,) haveing much

conferance w^th M^r. Robinson & other of y^e cheefe of them, perswaded

them to goe on (as it seems) & not to medle with y^e Dutch, or too much

to depend on the Virginia Company; for if that failed, if they came to

resolution, he and such marchants as were his freinds (togeather with

their owne means) would sett them forth; and they should make ready, and

neither feare wante of shipping nor money; for what they wanted should

be provided. And, not so much for him selfe as for y^e satisfing of such

frends as he should procure to adventure in this bussines, they were to

draw such articls of agreemente, and make such propossitions, as might

y^e better induce his freinds to venture. Upon which (after y^e formere

conclusion) articles were drawne & agreed unto, and were showne unto

him, and approved by him; and afterwards by their messenger (M^r. John

Carver) sent into England, who, togeather with Robart Cushman, were to

receive y^e moneys & make provissione both for shiping & other things

for y^e vioage; with this charge, not to exseede their co[=m]ission, but

to proseed according to y^e former articles. Also some were chossen to

doe y^e like for such things as were to be prepared there; so those that

weare to goe, prepared them selves with all speed, and sould of their

estats and (such as were able) put in their moneys into y^e commone

stock, which was disposed by those appointed, for y^e making of generall

provissions. Aboute this time also they had heard, both by M^r. Weston

and others, y^t sundrie Hon^bl: Lords had obtained a large grante from

y^e king, for y^e more northerly parts of that countrie, derived out of

y^e Virginia patente, and wholy secluded from their Govermente, and to

be called by another name, viz. New-England. Unto which M^r. Weston, and

y^e cheefe of them, begane to incline it was [28] best for them to goe,

as for other reasons, so cheefly for y^e hope of present profite to be

made by y^e fishing that was found in y^t countrie.

But as in all bussineses y^e acting parte is most difficulte, espetially

wher y^e worke of many agents must concurr, so it was found in this; for

some of those y^t should have gone in England, fell of & would not goe;

other marchants & freinds y^t had offered to adventure their moneys

withdrew, and pretended many excuses. Some disliking they wente not to

Guiana; others againe would adventure nothing excepte they wente to

Virginia. Some againe (and those that were most relied on) fell in utter

dislike with Virginia, and would doe nothing if they wente thither. In

y^e midds of these distractions, they of Leyden, who had put of their

estats, and laid out their moneys, were brought into a greate streight,

fearing what issue these things would come too; but at length y^e

generalitie was swaid to this latter opinion.

But now another difficultie arose, for M^r. Weston and some other that

were for this course, either for their better advantage or rather for

y^e drawing on of others, as they pretended, would have some of those

conditions altered y^t were first agreed on at Leyden. To which y^e 2.

agents sent from Leyden (or at least one of them who is most charged

with it) did consente; seeing els y^t all was like to be dashte, & y^e

opportunitie lost, and y^t they which had put of their estats and paid

in their moneys were in hazard to be undon. They presumed to conclude

with y^e marchants on those termes, in some things contrary to their

order & co[=m]ission, and without giving them notice of y^e same; yea,

it was conceled least it should make any furder delay; which was y^e

cause afterward of much trouble & contention.

It will be meete I here inserte these conditions, which are as foloweth.

An^o: 1620. July 1.

1. The adventurers & planters doe agree, that every person that goeth

being aged 16. years & upward, be rated at 10^li., and ten pounds to

be accounted a single share.

2. That he that goeth in person, and furnisheth him selfe out with

10^li. either in money or other provissions, be accounted as haveing

20^li. in stock, and in y^e devission shall receive a double share.

3. The persons transported & y^e adventurers shall continue their

joynt stock & partnership togeather, y^e space of 7. years, (excepte

some unexpected impedimente doe cause y^e whole company to agree

otherwise,) during which time, all profits & benifits that are gott by

trade, traffick, trucking, working, fishing, or any other means of any

person or persons, remaine still in y^e co[=m]one stock untill y^e

division.

4. That at their co[=m]ing ther, they chose out such a number of fitt

persons, as may furnish their ships and boats for fishing upon y^e

sea; imploying the rest in their severall faculties upon y^e land; as

building houses, tilling, and planting y^e ground, & makeing shuch

co[=m]odities as shall be most usefull for y^e collonie.

5. That at y^e end of y^e 7. years, y^e capitall & profits, viz. the

houses, lands, goods and chatles, be equally devided betwixte y^e

adventurers, and planters; w^ch done, every man shall be free from

other of them of any debt or detrimente concerning this adventure.

[29] 6. Whosoever cometh to y^e colonie herafter, or putteth any into

y^e stock, shall at the ende of y^e 7. years be alowed proportionably

to y^e time of his so doing.

7. He that shall carie his wife & children, or servants, shall be

alowed for everie person now aged 16. years & upward, a single share

in y^e devision, or if he provid them necessaries, a duble share, or

if they be between 10. year old and 16., then 2. of them to be reconed

for a person, both in tr[=a]sportation and devision.

8. That such children as now goe, & are under y^e age of ten years,

have noe other shar in y^e devision, but 50. acers of unmanured land.

9. That such persons as die before y^e 7. years be expired, their

executors to have their parte or sharr at y^e devision, proportionably

to y^e time of their life in y^e collonie.

10. That all such persons as are of this collonie, are to have their

meate, drink, apparell, and all provissions out of y^e co[=m]on stock

& goods of y^e said collonie.

The cheefe & principall differences betwene these & the former

conditions, stood in those 2. points; that y^e houses, & lands improved,

espetialy gardens & home lotts should remaine undevided wholy to y^e

planters at y^e 7. years end. 2^ly, y^t they should have had 2. days in

a weeke for their owne private imploymente, for y^e more comforte of

them selves and their families, espetialy such as had families. But

because letters are by some wise men counted y^e best parte of

histories, I shall shew their greevances hereaboute by their owne

letters, in which y^e passages of things will be more truly discerned.

_A letter of M^r. Robinsons to John Carver._

June 14. 1620. N. Stile.

My dear freind & brother, whom with yours I alwaise remember in my

best affection, and whose wellfare I shall never cease to co[=m]end to

God by my best & most earnest praires. You doe throwly understand by

our generall letters y^e estate of things hear, which indeed is very

pitifull; espetialy by wante of shiping, and not seeing means lickly,

much less certaine, of having it provided; though withall ther be

great want of money & means to doe needfull things. M^r. Pickering,

you know before this, will not defray a peny hear; though Robart

Cushman presumed of I know not how many 100^li. from him, & I know

not whom. Yet it seems strange y^t we should be put to him to receive

both his & his partners adventer, and yet M^r. Weston write unto him,

y^t in regard of it, he hath drawne upon him a 100^li. more. But ther

is in this some misterie, as indeed it seems ther is in y^e whole

course. Besids, wheras diverse are to pay in some parts of their

moneys yet behinde, they refuse to doe it, till they see shiping

provided, or a course taken for it. Neither doe I thinke is ther a man

hear would pay any thing, if he had againe his money in his purse. You

know right well we depended on M^r. Weston alone, and upon such means

as he would procure for this commone bussines; and when we had in hand

another course with y^e Dutchmen, broke it of at his motion, and upon

y^e conditions by him shortly after propounded. He did this in his

love I know, but things appeare not answerable from him hitherto. That

he should have first have put in his moneys, is thought by many to

have been but fitt, but y^t I can well excuse, he being a marchante

and haveing use of it to his benefite; wheras others, if it had been

in their hands, would have consumed it. [30] But y^t he should not but

have had either shipping ready before this time, or at least certaine

means, and course, and y^e same knowne to us for it, or have taken

other order otherwise, cannot in my conscience be excused. I have

heard y^t when he hath been moved in the bussines, he hath put it of

from him selfe, and referred it to y^e others;[P] and would come to

Georg Morton, & enquire news of him aboute things, as if he had scarce

been some accessarie unto it. Wether he hath failed of some helps from

others which he expected, and so be not well able to goe through with

things, or whether he hath feared least you should be ready too soone

& so encrease y^e charge of shiping above y^t is meete, or whether he

have thought by withhoulding to put us upon straits, thinking y^t

therby M^r. Brewer and M^r. Pickering would be drawne by importunitie

to doe more, or what other misterie is in it, we know not; but sure we

are y^t things are not answerable to such an occasion. M^r. Weston

maks himselfe mery with our endeavors about buying a ship, but we have

done nothing in this but with good reason, as I am perswaded, nor yet

that I know in any thing els, save in those tow; y^e one, that we

imployed Robart Cushman, who is known (though a good man, & of

spetiall abilities in his kind, yet) most unfitt to deale for other

men, by reason of his singularitie, and too great indifferancie for

any conditions, and for (to speak truly) that[Q] we have had nothing

from him but termes & presumptions. The other, y^t we have so much

relyed, by implicite faith as it were, upon generalities, without

seeing y^e perticuler course & means for so waghtie an affaire set

down unto us. For shiping, M^r. Weston, it should seeme, is set upon

hireing, which yet I wish he may presently effecte; but I see litle

hope of help from hence if so it be. Of M^r. Brewer you know what to

expecte. I doe not thinke M^r. Pickering will ingage, excepte in y^e

course of buying, in former letters specified. Aboute y^e conditions,

you have our reasons for our judgments of what is agreed. And let this

spetially be borne in minde, y^t the greatest parte of y^e Collonie is

like to be imployed constantly, not upon dressing ther perticuler land

& building houses, but upon fishing, trading, &c. So as y^e land &

house will be but a trifell for advantage to y^e adventurers, and yet

the devission of it a great discouragmente to y^e planters, who would

with singuler care make it comfortable with borowed houres from their

sleep. The same consideration of co[=m]one imploymente constantly by

the most is a good reason not to have y^e 2. daies in a weeke denyed

y^e few planters for private use, which yet is subordinate to

co[=m]one good. Consider also how much unfite that you & your liks

must serve a new prentishipe of 7. years, and not a daies freedome

from taske. Send me word what persons are to goe, who of usefull

faculties, & how many, & perticulerly of every thing. I know you wante

not a minde. I am sorie you have not been at London all this while,

but y^e provissions could not wante you. Time will suffer me to write

no more; fare you & yours well allways in y^e Lord, in whom I rest.

Yours to use,

JOHN ROBINSON.

_An other letter from sundrie of them at y^e same time._

[31] To their loving freinds John Carver and Robart Cushman, these,

&c.

Good bretheren, after salutations, &c. We received diverse letters at

y^e coming of M^r. Nash & our pilott, which is a great incouragmente

unto us, and for whom we hop after times will minister occasion of

praising God; and indeed had you not sente him, many would have been

ready to fainte and goe backe. Partly in respecte of y^e new

conditions which have bene taken up by you, which all men are against,

and partly in regard of our owne inabillitie to doe any one of those

many waightie bussineses you referr to us here. For y^e former wherof,

wheras Robart Cushman desirs reasons for our dislike, promising

therupon to alter y^e same, or els saing we should thinke he hath no

brains, we desire him to exercise them therin, refering him to our

pastors former reasons, and them to y^e censure of y^e godly wise. But

our desires are that you will not entangle your selvs and us in any

such unreasonable courses as those are, viz. y^t the marchants should

have y^e halfe of mens houses and lands at y^e dividente; and that

persons should be deprived of y^e 2. days in a weeke agreed upon, yea

every momente of time for their owne perticuler; by reason wherof we

cannot conceive why any should carie servants for their own help and

comfort; for that we can require no more of them then all men one of

another. This we have only by relation from M^r. Nash, & not from any

writing of your owne, & therfore hope you have not proceeded farr in

so great a thing without us. But requiring you not to exseed the

bounds of your co[=m]ission, which was to proceed upon y^e things or

conditions agred upon and expressed in writing (at your going over

about it), we leave it, not without marveling, that you^r selfe, as

you write, knowing how smale a thing troubleth our consultations, and

how few, as you fear, understands the busnes aright, should trouble us

with such matters as these are, &c.

Salute M^r. Weston from us, in whom we hope we are not deceived; we

pray you make known our estate unto him, and if you thinke good shew

him our letters, at least tell him (y^t under God) we much relie upon

him & put our confidence in him; and, as your selves well know, that

if he had not been an adventurer with us, we had not taken it in hand;

presuming that if he had not seene means to accomplish it, he would

not have begune it; so we hope in our extremitie he will so farr help

us as our expectation be no way made frustrate concerning him. Since

therfore, good brethren, we have plainly opened y^e state of things

with us in this matter, you will, &c. Thus beseeching y^e Allmightie,

who is allsufficiente to raise us out of this depth of dificulties, to

assiste us herein; raising such means by his providence and fatherly

care for us, his pore children & servants, as we may with comforte

behould y^e hand of our God for good towards us in this our bussines,

which we undertake in his name & fear, we take leave & remaine

Your perplexed, yet hopfull

bretheren,

S. F.

E. W.

W. B.

J. A.[R]

June 10. New Stille,

An^o: 1620.

_A letter of Robart Cushmans to them._

Brethern, I understand by letters & passagess y^t have come to me,

that ther are great discontents, & dislike of my proceedings amongst

you. Sorie I am to hear it, yet contente to beare it, as not doubting

but y^t partly by writing, and more principally by word when we shall

come togeather, I shall satisfie any reasonable man. I have been

perswaded [32] by some, espetialy this bearer, to come and clear

things unto you; but as things now stand I ca[=n]ot be absente one

day, excepte I should hazard all y^e viage. Neither conceive I any

great good would come of it. Take then, brethern, this as a step to

give you contente. First, for your dislike of y^e alteration of one

clause in y^e conditions, if you conceive it right, ther can be no

blame lye on me at all. For y^e articles first brought over by John

Carver were never seene of any of y^e adventurers hear, excepte M^r.

Weston, neither did any of them like them because of that clause; nor

M^r. Weston him selfe, after he had well considered it. But as at y^e

first ther was 500^li. withdrawne by S^r. Georg Farrer and his brother

upon that dislike, so all y^e rest would have withdrawne (M^r. Weston

excepted) if we had not altered y^t clause. Now whilst we at Leyden

conclude upon points, as we did, we reckoned without our host, which

was not my falte. Besids, I shewed you by a letter y^e equitie of y^t

condition, & our inconveniences, which might be sett against all M^r.

Rob: inconveniences, that without y^e alteration of y^t clause, we

could neither have means to gett thither, nor supplie wherby to

subsiste when we were ther. Yet notwithstanding all those reasons,

which were not mine, but other mens wiser then my selfe, without

answer to any one of them, here cometh over many quirimonies, and

complaints against me, of lording it over my brethern, and making

conditions fitter for theeves & bondslaves then honest men, and that

of my owne head I did what I list. And at last a paper of reasons,

framed against y^t clause in y^e conditions, which as y^ey were

delivered me open, so my answer is open to you all. And first, as they

are no other but inconveniences, such as a man might frame 20. as

great on y^e other side, and yet prove nor disprove nothing by them,

so they misse & mistake both y^e very ground of y^e article and nature

of y^e project. For, first, it is said, that if ther had been no

divission of houses & lands, it had been better for y^e poore. True,

and y^t showeth y^e inequalitie of y^e condition; we should more

respecte him y^t ventureth both his money and his person, then him y^t

ventureth but his person only.

2. Consider wheraboute we are, not giveing almes, but furnishing a

store house; no one shall be porer then another for 7. years, and if

any be rich, none can be pore. At y^e least, we must not in such

bussines crie, Pore, pore, mercie, mercie. Charitie hath it life in

wraks, not in venturs; you are by this most in a hopefull pitie of

makeing, therfore complaine not before you have need.

3. This will hinder y^e building of good and faire houses, contrarie

to y^e advise of pollitiks. A. So we would have it; our purpose is to

build for y^e presente such houses as, if need be, we may with litle

greefe set a fire, and rune away by the lighte; our riches shall not

be in pompe, but in strenght; if God send us riches, we will imploye

them to provid more men, ships, munition, &c. You may see it amongst

the best pollitiks, that a co[=m]onwele is readier to ebe then to

flow, when once fine houses and gay cloaths come up.

4. The Gove^t may prevente excess in building. A. But if it be on all

men beforehand resolved on, to build mean houses, y^e Gove^r laboure

is spared.

5. All men are not of one condition. A. If by condition you mean

wealth, you are mistaken; if you mean by condition, qualities, then I

say he that is not contente his neighbour shall have as good a house,

fare, means, &c. as him selfe, is not of a good qualitie. 2^ly. Such

retired persons, as have aneie only to them selves, are fitter to

come wher catching is, then closing; and are fitter to live alone,

then in any societie, either civill or religious.

6. It will be of litle value, scarce worth 5^li. A. True, it may be

not worth halfe 5^li. [33] If then so smale a thing will content them,

why strive we thus aboute it, and give them occasion to suspecte us to

be worldly & covetous? I will not say what I have heard since these

complaints came first over.

7. Our freinds with us y^t adventure mind not their owne profite, as

did y^e old adventurers. A. Then they are better then we, who for a

litle matter of profite are readie to draw back, and it is more

apparente brethern looke too it, that make profite your maine end;

repente of this, els goe not least you be like Jonas to Tarshis. 2^ly.

Though some of them mind not their profite, yet others doe mind it;

and why not as well as we? venturs are made by all sorts of men, and

we must labour to give them all contente, if we can.

8. It will break y^e course of co[=m]unitie, as may be showed by many

reasons. A. That is but said, and I say againe, it will best foster

comunion, as may be showed by many reasons.

9. Great profite is like to be made by trucking, fishing, &c. A. As it

is better for them, so for us; for halfe is ours, besids our living

still upon it, and if such profite in y^t way come, our labour shall

be y^e less on y^e land, and our houses and lands must & will be of

less value.

10. Our hazard is greater then theirs. A. True, but doe they put us

upon it? doe they urge or egg us? hath not y^e motion & resolution

been always in our selves? doe they any more then in seeing us

resolute if we had means, help us to means upon equall termes &

conditions? If we will not goe, they are content to keep their moneys.

Thus I have pointed at a way to loose those knots, which I hope you

will consider seriously, and let me have no more stirre about them.

Now furder, I hear a noise of slavish conditions by me made; but

surly this is all that I have altered, and reasons I have sent you. If

you mean it of y^e 2. days in a week for perticuler, as some

insinuate, you are deceived; you may have 3. days in a week for me if

you will. And when I have spoken to y^e adventurers of times of

working, they have said they hope we are men of discretion &

conscience, and so fitte to be trusted our selves with that. But

indeed y^e ground of our proceedings at Leyden was mistaken, and so

here is nothing but tottering every day, &c.

As for them of Amsterdam I had thought they would as soone have gone

to Rome as with us; for our libertie is to them as ratts bane, and

their riggour as bad to us as y^e Spanish Inquision. If any practise

of mine discourage them, let them yet draw back; I will undertake they

shall have their money againe presently paid hear. Or if the company

thinke me to be y^e Jonas, let them cast me of before we goe; I shall

be content to stay with good will, having but the cloaths on my back;

only let us have quietnes, and no more of these clamors; full litle

did I expecte these things which are now come to pass, &c.

Yours,

R. CUSHMAN.

But whether this letter of his ever came to their hands at Leyden I well

know not; I rather thinke it was staied by M^r. Carver & kept by him,

forgiving offence. But this which follows was ther received; both which

I thought pertenent to recite.

_Another of his to y^e aforesaid, June_ 11. 1620.[S]

Salutations, &c. I received your l[~e]r. yesterday, by John Turner,

with another y^e same day from Amsterdam by M^r. W. savouring of y^e

place whenc it came. And indeed the many discouragements I find her,

togeather with y^e demurrs and retirings ther, had made me to say, I

would give up my accounts to John Carver, & at his comeing aquainte

him fully with all courses, and so leave it quite, with only y^e pore

cloaths on my back. But gathering up my selfe by further

consideration, [34] I resolved yet to make one triall more, and to

aquainte M^r. Weston with y^e fainted state of our bussines; and

though he hath been much discontented at some thing amongst us of

late, which hath made him often say, that save for his promise, he

would not meadle at all with y^e bussines any more, yet considering

how farr we were plunged into maters, & how it stood both on our

credits & undoing, at y^e last he gathered up him selfe a litle more,

& coming to me 2. hours after, he tould me he would not yet leave it.

And so advising togeather we resolved to hire a ship, and have tooke

liking of one till Monday, about 60. laste, for a greater we cannot

gett, excepte it be tow great; but a fine ship it is. And seeing our

neer freinds ther are so streite lased, we hope to assure her without

troubling them any further; and if y^e ship fale too small, it fitteth

well y^t such as stumble at strawes allready, may rest them ther a

while, least worse blocks come in y^e way ere 7. years be ended. If

you had beaten this bussines so throuly a month agoe, and write to us

as now you doe, we could thus have done much more conveniently. But it

is as it is; I hope our freinds ther, if they be quitted of the ship

hire, will be indusced to venture y^e more. All y^t I now require is

y^t salt and netts may ther be boughte, and for all y^e rest we will

here provid it; yet if that will not be, let them but stand for it a

month or tow, and we will take order to pay it all. Let M^r.

_Reinholds_ tarie ther, and bring y^e ship to Southampton. We have

hired another pilote here, one M^r. _Clarke_, who went last year to

Virginia with a ship of kine.

You shall here distinctly by John Turner, who I thinke shall come

hence on Tewsday night. I had thought to have come with him, to have

answerd to my complaints; but I shal lerne to pass litle for their

censurs; and if I had more minde to goe & dispute & expostulate with

them, then I have care of this waightie bussines, I were like them who

live by clamours & jangling. But neither my mind nor my body is at

libertie to doe much, for I am fettered with bussines, and had rather

study to be quiet, then to make answer to their exceptions. If men be

set on it, let them beat y^e eair; I hope such as are my sinceire

freinds will not thinke but I can give some reason of my actions. But

of your mistaking aboute y^e mater, & other things tending to this

bussines, I shall nexte informe you more distinctly. Mean space

entreate our freinds not to be too bussie in answering matters, before

they know them. If I doe such things as I ca[=n]ot give reasons for,

it is like you have sett a foole aboute your bussines, and so turne

y^e reproofe to your selves, & send an other, and let me come againe

to my Combes. But setting a side my naturall infirmities, I refuse not

to have my cause judged, both of God, & all indifferent men; and when

we come togeather I shall give accounte of my actions hear. The Lord,

who judgeth justly without respect of persons, see into y^e equitie of

my cause, and give us quiet, peacable, and patient minds, in all these

turmoiles, and sanctifie unto us all crosses whatsoever. And so I take

my leave of you all, in all love & affection.

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