HOUSE OF COMMONS, APRIL 12, 1741.

[DEBATE ON ADDRESSING THE KING.]

A copy of his majesty's speech being read, Mr. CLUTTERBUCK-BUCK rose,

and spoke as follows:--

Sir, the present confusion in Europe, the known designs of the French,

the numerous claims to the Austrian dominions, the armies which are

levied to support them, and the present inability of the queen of

Hungary to maintain those rights which descend to her from her

ancestors, and have been confirmed by all the solemnities of treaties,

evidently require an uncommon degree of attention in our consultations,

and of vigour in our proceedings.

Whatever may be the professions of the French, their real designs are

easily discovered, designs which they have carried on, either openly, or

in private, for near a century, and which it cannot be expected that

they will lay aside, when they are so near to success. Their view, sir,

in all their wars and treaties, alliances and intrigues, has been the

attainment of universal dominion, the destruction of the rights of

nature, and the subjection of all the rest of mankind; nor have we any

reason to imagine that they are not equally zealous for the promotion of

this pernicious scheme, while they pour troops into Germany, for the

assistance of their ally, as when they wasted kingdoms, laid cities in

ashes, and plunged millions into misery and want, without any other

motive than the glory of their king.

But the French are not the only nation at this time labouring for the

subversion of our common liberties. Our liberties, sir, are endangered

by those equally interested with ourselves in their preservation; for in

what degree soever any of the princes who are now endeavouring to divide

among themselves the dominions of Austria, may be pleased with the

acquisition of new territories, and an imaginary increase of influence

and power, it must be evident to all who are not dazzled by immediate

interest, that they are only fighting for France, and that by the

destruction of the Austrian family, they must in a short time fall

themselves.

It is well known, sir, though it is not always remembered, that

political as well as natural greatness is merely comparative, and that

he only is a powerful prince, who is more powerful than those with whom

he can have any cause of contention. That prince, therefore, who

imagines his power enlarged by a partition of territories, which gives

him some additional provinces, may be at last disappointed in his

expectations: for, if this partition gives to another prince already

greater than himself, an opportunity of increasing his strength in a

degree proportionate to his present superiority, the former will soon

find, that he has been labouring for nothing, and that his danger is

still the same.

Such, sir, is the case of the king of Prussia, who, when he has overrun

that part of Germany, to which he now lays claim, will only have

weakened the house of Austria, without strengthening himself.

He is at present secure in the possession of his dominions, because

neither the Austrians would suffer the French, nor the French permit the

Austrians to increase-their power by subduing him. Thus, while the

present equipoise of power is maintained, jealousy and caution would

always procure him an ally whenever he should be attacked; but when, by

his assistance, the Austrian family shall be ruined, who shall defend

him against the ambition of France?

While the liberties of mankind are thus equally endangered by folly and

ambition, attacked on one side, and neglected on the other, it is

necessary for those who foresee the calamity that threatens them, to

exert themselves in endeavours to avert it, and to retard the fatal

blow, till those who are now lulled by the contemplation of private

advantage, can be awakened into a just concern for the general happiness

of Europe, and be convinced that they themselves can only be secure by

uniting in the cause of liberty and justice.

For this reason, sir, our sovereign has asserted the Pragmatick

sanction, and promised to assist the queen of Hungary with the forces

which former treaties have entitled her to demand from him; for this

reason he has endeavoured to rouse the Dutch from their supineness, and

excite them to arm once more for the common safety, to intimidate, by

new augmentations, those powers whose ardour, perhaps, only subsists

upon the confidence that they shall not be resisted, and to animate, by

open declarations in favour of the house of Austria, those who probably

are only hindered from offering their assistance, by the fear of

standing alone against the armies of France.

That by this conduct he may expose his dominions on the continent to

invasions, ravages, and the other miseries of war, every one who knows

their situation must readily allow; nor can it be doubted by any man who

has heard of the power of the Prussians and French, that they may commit

great devastations with very little opposition, the forces of the

electorate not being sufficient to give them battle; for though the

fortified towns might hold out against them, that consideration will

very little alleviate the concern of those who consider the miseries of

a nation, whose enemies are in possession of all the open country, and

who from their ramparts see their harvest laid waste, and their villages

in flames. The fortifications contain the strength, but the field and

the trading towns comprise the riches of a people, and the country may

be ruined which is not subdued.

As, therefore, sir, the electoral dominions of his majesty are now

endangered, not by any private dispute with the neighbouring princes,

but by his firmness in asserting the general rights of Europe; as the

consequences of his conduct, on this occasion, will be chiefly

beneficial to Britain, we ought surely to support him in the prosecution

of this design; a design which we cannot but approve, since our

ancestors have always carried it on without regard either to the danger

or the expense.

In conformity to this maxim of politicks, so clearly founded in equity,

and so often justified by the votes of the senate, has his majesty been

pleased to declare to us his resolution to adhere to his engagements,

and oppose all attempts that may be forming in favour of any unjust

pretensions to the prejudice of the house of Austria. 'Tis for this end

he desires the concurrence of his senate. I hope every gentleman in this

house will agree with me that we ought to declare our approbation of

these measures, in such terms as may show the world, that those who

shall dare to obstruct them, must resolve to incur the resentment of

this nation, and expose themselves to all the opposition which the

senate of Britain can send forth against them. We ought to pronounce

that the territories of Hanover will be considered, on this occasion, as

the dominions of Britain, and that any attack on one or the other will

be equally resented. I, therefore, move, that an humble address be

presented by this house to his majesty,

To return our thanks for his speech; to express our dutiful sense of his

majesty's just regard for the rights of the queen of Hungary, and for

maintaining the Pragmatick sanction; to declare our concurrence in the

prudent measures which his majesty is pursuing for the preservation of

the liberties and balance of power in Europe; to acknowledge his

majesty's wisdom and resolution, in not suffering himself to be diverted

from steadily persevering in his just purposes of fulfilling his

engagements with the house of Austria; also, further to assure his

majesty, that, in justice to and vindication of the honour and dignity

of the British crown, we will effectually stand by and support his

majesty against all insults and attacks, which any prince or power, in

resentment of the just measures which he has so wisely taken, shall make

upon any of his majesty's dominions, though not belonging to the crown

of Great Britain. And that in any future events, which might make it

necessary for him to enter into still larger expenses, this house will

enable him to contribute, in the most effectual manner, to the support

of the queen of Hungary, to the preventing, by all reasonable means, the

subversion of the house of Austria, and to the maintaining the

Pragmatick sanction and the liberties and balance of Europe.

Mr. FOX seconded the motion in this manner:--Sir, the expediency, if not

the necessity of the address now moved for, will, I believe, be readily

allowed by those who consider the just measures which are pursued by his

majesty, the end which is intended by them, and the powers by which they

are opposed.

How much it is our duty to support the house of Austria it is not

necessary to explain to any man who has heard the debates of this

assembly, or read the history of the last war. How much it is our duty

to support it, is evident, as soon as it is known by whom it is

attacked; by the ancient enemy of these nations, by the general

disturber of the universe, by the formidable oppressors of liberty,

exulting in new acquisitions, inflamed with the madness of universal

monarchy, and elated with an opportunity of subjecting Germany, by

exalting to the supreme power a prince who shall hold his authority only

by their permission.

The house of Austria, which has so often stood forth in defence of our

common rights, which has poured armies into the field, in confederacy

with Britain, to suppress the insolence of that family which nothing

could satisfy but boundless power, now demands the assistance which it

has so often afforded; that assistance is demanded from us by every

claim which the laws of society can enact, or the dictates of nature can

suggest, by treaties maturely considered, and solemnly confirmed, by the

ties of ancient friendship, and the obligations of common interest.

To violate the publick faith, and to neglect the observation of

treaties, is to sink ourselves below barbarity, to destroy that

confidence which unites mankind in society. To deny or evade our

stipulations, sir, is to commit a crime which every honest mind must

consider with abhorrence, and to establish a precedent which may be used

hereafter to our own destruction.

To forsake an ancient ally only because we can receive no immediate

advantage from his friendship, or because it may be in some degree

dangerous to adhere to him; to forsake him when he most wants our good

offices, when he is distressed by his enemies, and deserted by others

from whom he had reason to hope for kinder treatment, is the most

despicable, the most hateful degree of cowardice and treachery.

The obligations of interest, sir, it is not often needful to enforce,

but it may be observed on this occasion, that a single year of neglect

may never be retrieved. We may, sir, now be able to support those whom,

when once dispossessed, it will not be in our power to restore; and that

if we suffer the house of Austria to be overborne, our posterity,

through every generation, may have reason to curse our injudicious

parsimony, our fatal inactivity, and our perfidious cowardice.

With what views the king of Prussia concurs in the French measures, or

upon what principles of policy he promises to himself any security in

the enjoyment of his new dominions, it is not easy to conjecture; but as

it is easy to discover, that whatever he may propose to himself, his

conduct evidently tends to the ruin of Europe, so he may, in my opinion,

justly be opposed, if he cannot be diverted or made easy.

Nor can we, sir, if this opposition should incite him, or any other

power, to an invasion of his majesty's foreign dominions, refuse them

our protection and assistance: for as they suffer for the cause which we

are engaged to support, and suffer only by our measures, we are at

least, as allies, obliged by the laws of equity and the general compacts

of mankind, to arm in their defence; and what may be claimed by the

common right of allies, we shall surely not deny them, only because they

are more closely united to us, because they own the same monarch with

ourselves.

Mr. PULTENEY spoke to the following purpose:--Sir, with what eagerness

the French snatch every opportunity of increasing their influence,

extending their dominions, and oppressing their neighbours, the

experience of many years has convinced all Europe; and it is evident

that unless some power be preserved in a degree of strength nearly equal

to theirs, their schemes, pernicious as they are, cannot be defeated.

That the only power from which this opposition can be hoped, is the

house of Austria, a very superficial view of this part of the globe,

will sufficiently demonstrate; of this we were long since so strongly

convinced, that we employed all our forces and all our politicks to

aggrandize this house. We endeavoured not only to support it in all its

hereditary rights, but to invest it with new sovereignties, and extend

its authority over new dominions.

Why we afterwards varied in our councils and our measures, I have long

inquired without any satisfaction, having never, sir, with the utmost

application, been able to discover the motives to the memorable treaty

of Hanover, by which we stipulated to destroy the fabrick that we had

been so long and so laboriously endeavouring to erect; by which we

abandoned that alliance which we had so diligently cultivated, which we

had preferred to peace, plenty, and riches, and for which we had

cheerfully supported a tedious, a bloody, and an expensive war.

This conduct, sir, raises a greater degree of admiration, as the authors

of it had exhausted all their eloquence in censuring the treaty of

Utrecht, and had endeavoured to expose those who transacted it to the

general hatred of the nation; as they always expressed in the strongest

terms their dread and detestation of the French; as they animated all

their harangues, and stunned their opponents with declarations of their

zeal for the liberties of Europe.

By what impulse or what infatuation, these asserters of liberty, these

enemies of France, these guardians of the balance of power, were on the

sudden prevailed on to declare in favour of the power whom they had so

long thought it their chief interest and highest honour to oppose, must

be discovered by sagacity superiour to mine. But after such perplexity

of councils and such fluctuation of conduct, it is necessary to inquire

more particularly what are the present intentions of the ministry, what

alliances have been formed, and what conditions are required to be

fulfilled.

If we are obliged only to supply the queen of Hungary with twelve

thousand men, we have already performed our engagements; if we have

promised any pecuniary assistance, the sum which we have stipulated to

furnish ought to be declared; for I suppose, at least, our engagements

have some limits, and that we are not to exert all the force of the

nation, to fight as if fire and sword were at our gates, or an invader

were landing armies upon our coasts.

I have, sir, from my earliest years been zealous for the defence and

exaltation of the house of Austria, and shall be very far from proposing

that any danger or distress should influence us to desert it; but I do

not easily discover by what means we shall be able to afford any

efficacious assistance: for the power of Britain consists chiefly in

naval armaments, which can be of very little use to the queen of

Hungary, and I know not any state that will easily consent to unite with

us on this occasion.

If there be, sir, any states remaining in Europe which the French can

neither intimidate nor bribe, we ought studiously to solicit and

diligently to cultivate their friendship; but whether any, except the

Moscovites, are now independent, or sufficiently confident of their own

strength to engage in such a hazardous alliance, may be justly doubted.

The late grand alliance, sir, was supported at the expense of this

nation alone; nor was it required from the other confederates to exhaust

the treasure of their country in the common cause. I hope the debt which

that war has entailed upon us will instruct us to be more frugal in our

future engagements, and to stipulate only what we may perform without

involving the nation in misery, which victories and triumphs cannot

compensate.

The necessity, sir, of publick economy obliges me to insist, that before

any money shall be granted, an account be laid before the senate, in

particular terms, of the uses to which it is to be applied. To ask for

supplies in general terms, is to demand the power of squandering the

publick money at pleasure, and to claim, in softer language, nothing

less than despotick authority.

It has not been uncommon for money, granted by the senate, to be spent

without producing any of those effects which were expected from it,

without assisting our allies, or humbling our enemies; and, therefore,

there is reason for suspecting that money has sometimes been asked for

one use and applied to another.

If our concurrence, sir, is necessary to increase his majesty's

influence on the continent, to animate the friends of the house of

Austria, or to repress the disturbers of the publick tranquillity, I

shall willingly unite with the most zealous advocates for the

administration in any vote of approbation or assistance, not contrary to

the act of settlement, that important and well-concerted act, by which

the present family was advanced to the throne, and by which it is

provided, that Britain shall never be involved in war for the

enlargement or protection of the dominions of Hanover, dominions from

which we never expected nor received any benefit, and for which,

therefore, nothing ought to be either suffered or hazarded.

If it should be again necessary to form a confederacy, and to unite the

powers of Europe against the house of Bourbon, that ambitious, that

restless family, by which the repose of the world is almost every day

interrupted, which is incessantly labouring against the happiness of

human nature, and seeking every hour an opportunity of new

encroachments, I declare, sir, that I shall not only, with the greatest

cheerfulness, bear my share of the publick expense, but endeavour to

reconcile others to their part of the calamities of war. This, sir, I

have advanced in confidence, that sufficient care shall be taken, that

in any new alliance we shall be parties, not principals; that the

expense of war, as the advantage of victory, shall be common; and that

those who shall unite with us will be our allies, not our mercenaries.

Mr. WALPOLE then spoke, to the following purpose:--Sir, it is not

without reason that the honourable gentleman desires to be informed of

the stipulations contained in the treaty by which we have engaged to

support the Pragmatick sanction; for I find that he either never knew

them or has forgotten them; and, therefore, those reasonings which he

has formed upon them fall to the ground.

We are obliged, sir, by this treaty, to supply the house of Austria with

twelve thousand men, and the Dutch, who were engaged in it by our

example, have promised a supply of five thousand. This force, joined to

those armies which the large dominions of that family enable them to

raise, were conceived sufficient to repel any enemy by whom their rights

should be invaded.

But because in affairs of such importance nothing is to be left to

hazard, because the preservation of the equipoise of power, on which the

liberties of almost all mankind, who can call themselves free, must be

acknowledged to depend, ought to be rather certain, than barely

probable; it is stipulated farther, both by the French and ourselves,

that if the supplies, specified in the first article, shall appear

insufficient, we shall unite our whole force in the defence of our ally,

and struggle, once more, for independence, with ardour proportioned to

the importance of our cause.

By these stipulations, sir, no engagements have been formed that can be

imagined to have been prohibited by the act of settlement, by which it

is provided, that the house of Hanover shall not plunge this nation into

a war, for the sake of their foreign dominions, without the consent of

the senate; for this war is by no means entered upon for the particular

security of Hanover, but for the general advantage of Europe, to repress

the ambition of the French, and to preserve ourselves and our posterity

from the most abject dependence upon a nation exasperated against us by

long opposition, and hereditary hatred.

Nor is the act of settlement only preserved unviolated by the reasons of

the present alliance, but by the regular concurrence of the senate which

his majesty has desired, notwithstanding his indubitable right of making

peace and war by his own authority. I cannot, therefore, imagine upon

what pretence it can be urged, that the law, which requires that no war

shall be made on account of the Hanoverian dominions without the consent

of the senate, is violated, when it is evident that the war is made upon

other motives, and the concurrence of the senate is solemnly desired.

But such is the malevolence with which the conduct of the administration

is examined, that no degree of integrity or vigilance can secure it from

censure. When, in the present question, truth and reason are evidently

on their side, past transactions are recalled to memory, and those

measures are treated with the utmost degree of contempt and ridicule, of

which the greatest part of the audience have probably forgotten the

reasons, and of which the authors of them do not always stand up in the

defence, because they are weary of repeating arguments to those who

listen with a resolution never to be convinced.

How well, sir, those by whom the ministry is opposed, have succeeded in

hardening their minds against the force of reason, is evident from their

constant custom of appealing from the senate to the people, and

publishing, in pamphlets, those arguments which they have found

themselves, in this assembly, unable to support; a practice which

discovers rather an obstinate resolution to obstruct the government,

than zeal for the prosperity of their country, and which, to speak of it

in the softest terms, seems to be suggested more by the desire of

popularity than the love of truth.

Mr. SANDYS spoke to the effect following:--Sir, notwithstanding the

confidence with which this motion has been offered and defended,

notwithstanding the specious appearance of respect to his majesty, by

which it is recommended, I am not ashamed to declare, that it appears to

me inconsistent with the trust reposed in us by our constituents, who

owe their allegiance to the king of Britain, and not to the elector of

Hanover.

It will be urged, sir, by the people, whom we sit here to represent,

that they are already embarrassed with debts, contracted in a late war,

from which, after the expense of many millions, and the destruction of

prodigious multitudes, they receive no advantage; and that they are now

loaded with taxes for the support of another, of which they perceive no

prospect of a very happy or honourable conclusion, of either security or

profit, either conquests or reprisals; and that they are, therefore, by

no means willing to see themselves involved in any new confederacy, by

which they may entail on their posterity the same calamities, and oblige

themselves to hazard their fortunes and their happiness in defence of

distant countries, of which many of them have scarcely heard, and from

which no return of assistance is expected.

Mr. WALPOLE spoke again, to this purpose:--Sir, though it is not

necessary to refute every calumny that malice may invent, or credulity

admit, or to answer those of whom it may reasonably be conceived that

they do not credit their own accusations, I will yet rise, once more, in

vindication of the treaty of Hanover, to show with how little reason it

is censured, to repress the levity of insult, and the pride of

unreasonable triumph.

The treaty of Hanover, sir, how long soever it has been ridiculed, and

with whatever contempt those by whom it was negotiated have been

treated, was wise and just. It was just, because no injury was intended

to any power, no invasion was planned, no partition of dominions

stipulated, nothing but our own security desired. It was wise, because

it produced the end proposed by it, and established that security which

the Austrians and Spaniards were endeavouring to destroy.

The emperour of Germany, sir, had then entered into a secret treaty of

alliance with Spain, by which nothing less was designed than the total

destruction of our liberties, the diminution of our commerce, the

alienation of our dominions, and the subversion of our constitution. We

were to have been expelled from Gibraltar, and totally excluded from the

Mediterranean, the pretender was to have been exalted to the throne, and

a new religion, with the slavery that always accompanies it, to have

been introduced amongst us, and Ostend was to have been made a port, and

to have shared the poor remains of our commerce to foreign nations.

This unjust, this malicious confederacy, was then opposed with the

utmost vehemence by the imperial general, whose courage and military

capacity are celebrated throughout the world, and whose political

abilities and knowledge of the affairs of Europe, were equal to his

knowledge of war. He urged, with great force, that such a confederacy

would disunite the empire for ever from the maritime powers, by which it

had been supported, and which were engaged by one common interest in the

promotion of its prosperity: but his remonstrances availed nothing, and

the alliance was concluded.

When our ancient allies, who had been so often succoured with our

treasure, and defended by our arms, had entered into such engagements;

when it was stipulated not only to impoverish but enslave us; not only

to weaken us abroad, but to deprive us of every domestick comfort; when

a scheme was formed that would have spread misery over the whole nation,

and have extended its consequences to the lowest orders of the

community, it was surely necessary to frustrate it by some alliance, and

with whom could we then unite, but with France?

This is not the only fact on which gentlemen have ventured to speak with

great freedom without sufficient information; the conduct of our allies

in the late war has been no less misrepresented than that of our

ministers in their negotiations. They have been charged with imposing

upon us the whole expense of the confederacy, when it may be proved,

beyond controversy, that the annual charge of the Dutch was five

millions.

Nor did they, sir, only contribute annually thus largely to the common

cause, but when we forsook the alliance, and shamefully abandoned the

advantages we had gained, they received our mercenaries into their own

pay, and expended nine millions in a single year.

Of the truth of these assertions it is easy to produce incontestable

evidence, which, however, cannot be necessary to any man who reflects,

that from one of the most wealthy nations in the world, the Dutch, with

all their commerce, and all their parsimony, are reduced to penury and

distress; for who can tell by what means they have sunk into their

present low condition, if they suffered nothing by the late war?

How this gentleman, sir, has been deceived, and to whose insinuations

his errours are to be imputed, I am at no loss to discover. I hope he

will, by this confutation, be warned against implicit credulity, and

remember with what caution that man is to be trusted, whose pernicious

counsels have endangered his country.

Mr. VYNER spoke thus:--Sir, it is, in my opinion, an incontestable

maxim, that no measures are eligible, which are unjust; and that,

therefore, before any resolutions are formed, we ought to examine not

what motives may be suggested by expedience, but what arguments may be

advanced by equity on one part or the other.

If I do not mistake the true intent of the address now proposed, we are

invited to declare that we will oppose the king of Prussia in his

attempts upon Silesia, a declaration in which I know not how any man can

concur, who knows not the nature of his claim, and the laws of the

empire. It ought, therefore, sir, to have been the first endeavour of

those by whom this address has been so zealously promoted, to show that

his claim, so publickly explained, so firmly urged, and so strongly

supported, is without foundation in justice or in reason, and is only

one of those imaginary titles, which ambition may always find to the

dominions of another.

But no attempt has been yet made towards the discussion of this

important question, and, therefore, I know not how any man can call upon

us to oppose the king of Prussia, when his claim may probably be just,

and, by consequence, such as, if it were necessary for us to engage in

the affairs of those distant countries, we ought to join with him in

asserting.

Lord GAGE spoke next, in substance as follows:--Sir, as no member of

this assembly can feel a greater degree of zeal for his majesty's honour

than myself; none shall more readily concur in any expression of duty or

adherence to him.

But I have been always taught that allegiance to my prince is consistent

with fidelity to my country, that the interest of the king and the

people of great Britain is the same; and that he only is a true subject

of the crown, who is a steady promoter of the happiness of the nation:

For this reason I think it necessary to declare, that Hanover is always

to be considered as a sovereignty separate from that of Britain, and as

a country with laws and interests distinct from ours; and that it is the

duty of the representatives of this nation, to take care that interests

so different may never be confounded, and that Britain may incur no

expense of which Hanover alone can enjoy the advantage.

If the elector of Hanover should be engaged in war with any of the

neighbouring sovereigns, who should be enabled, by a victory, to enter

into the country, and carry the terrours of war through all his

territories, it would by no means be necessary for this nation to

interpose; for the elector of Hanover might lose his dominions without

any disadvantage or dishonour to the king or people of Britain.

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