TESTIMONY OF JOSEPH D. NICOL

Mr. DULLES. Mr. Nicol, I am presiding at the request of the Chief

Justice.

Will you kindly raise your right hand. Do you swear the testimony you

will give before this Commission is the truth, the whole truth, and

nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. NICOL. I do.

Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Nicol, would you state your name and position?

Mr. NICOL. Joseph D. Nicol, Superintendent of the Bureau of Criminal

Identification and Investigation for the State of Illinois.

Mr. EISENBERG. Could you briefly describe your qualifications in the

field of firearms investigation?

Mr. NICOL. I began studying this field in 1941 in the Chicago Police

Crime Laboratory under Charles Wilson, remained there as a firearms

technician for approximately 9 years, and then moved to Pittsburgh,

where I directed and set up the Pittsburgh and Allegheny County Crime

Laboratory, also working in the field of ballistics.

Then I went to Miami, Fla., and set up the Dade County Crime Laboratory

and worked there for 5 years. I went to Michigan State and taught for 4

and now I am back in Illinois, in Springfield, as Superintendent of the

Bureau.

Mr. EISENBERG. Could you tell us approximately how many bullets and

cartridge cases you have examined to identify them or attempt to

identify them to suspect weapons?

Mr. NICOL. This would number in the thousands, I do not have an exact

figure, but our caseload in Chicago is approximately 4,000 guns

annually, of which we would make approximately between 10 and a dozen

comparisons, so the comparisons that would be conducted by myself or

those under my direct supervision would be approximately 50,000 a year.

Now this is just a rough figure.

Mr. EISENBERG. Do you have any publications or lectures?

Mr. NICOL. I have one minor publication in the field of firearms. Most

of my publication work has been with the "Journal of Criminology" in

the area, of the technical note and abstract section.

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