Dr. CARRICO. Yes, sir; just where the tie----

Mr. DULLES. A little bit to the left.

Dr. CARRICO. To the right.

Mr. DULLES. Yes; to the right.

Dr. CARRICO. Yes. And this wound was fairly round, had no jagged edges,

no evidence of powder burns, and so forth.

Representative FORD. No evidence of powder burns?

Dr. CARRICO. So far as I know.

Representative FORD. In the front?

Dr. CARRICO. Yes.

Mr. SPECTER. Have you now described that wound as specifically as you

can based upon your observations at the time?

Dr. CARRICO. I believe so.

Mr. SPECTER. And your recollection at the time of those observations?

Dr. CARRICO. Yes; an even round wound.

Mr. DULLES. You felt this wound in the neck was not a fatal wound?

Dr. CARRICO. That is right.

Mr. SPECTER. That is, absent the head wound, would the President have

survived the wound which was present on his neck?

Dr. CARRICO. I think very likely he would have.

Mr. SPECTER. Based on your observations on the neck wound alone did

you have a sufficient basis to form an opinion as to whether it was an

entrance or an exit wound?

Dr. CARRICO. No, sir; we did not. Not having completely evaluated all

the wounds, traced out the course of the bullets, this wound would have

been compatible with either entrance or exit wound depending upon the

size, the velocity, the tissue structure and so forth.

Mr. SPECTER. Permit me to add some facts which I shall ask you to

assume as being true for purposes of having you express an opinion.

First of all, assume that the President was struck by a 6.5 mm.

copper-jacketed bullet from a rifle having a muzzle velocity of

approximately 2,000 feet per second at a time when the President was

approximately 160 to 250 feet from the weapon, with the President being

struck from the rear at a downward angle of approximately 45 degrees,

being struck on the upper right posterior thorax just above the upper

border of the scapula 14 centimeters from the tip of the right acromion

process and 14 centimeters below the tip of the right mastoid process.

Assume further that the missile passed through the body of the

President striking no bones, traversing the neck and sliding between

the large muscles in the posterior aspect of the President's body

through a fascia channel without violating the pleural cavity, but

bruising only the apex of the right pleural cavity and bruising the

most apical portion of the right lung, then causing a hematoma to the

right of the larynx which you have described, and creating a jagged

wound in the trachea, then exiting precisely at the point where you

observe the puncture wound to exist.

Now based on those facts was the appearance of the wound in your

opinion consistent with being an exit wound?

Dr. CARRICO. It certainly was. It could have been under the

circumstances.

Mr. SPECTER. And assuming that all the facts which I have given you to

be true, do you have an opinion with a reasonable degree of medical

certainty as to whether, in fact, the wound was an entrance wound or an

exit wound?

Dr. CARRICO. With those facts and the fact as I understand it no other

bullet was found this would be, this was, I believe, was an exit wound.

Mr. SPECTER. Were any bullets found in the President's body by the

doctors at Parkland?

Dr. CARRICO. No, sir.

Mr. SPECTER. Was the President's clothing ever examined by you, Dr.

Carrico?

Dr. CARRICO. No, sir; it was not.

Mr. SPECTER. What was the reason for no examination of the clothing?

Dr. CARRICO. Again in the emergency situation the nurses removed the

clothing after we had initially unbuttoned enough to get a look at

him, at his chest, and as the routine is set up, the nurses remove the

clothing and we just don't take time to look at it.

Mr. SPECTER. Was the President's body then ever turned over at any

point by you or any of the other doctors at Parkland?

Dr. CARRICO. No, sir.

Mr. SPECTER. Was President Kennedy lying on the emergency stretcher

from the time he was brought into trauma room one until the treatment

at Parkland Hospital was concluded?

Dr. CARRICO. Yes; he was.

Mr. SPECTER. At what time was that treatment concluded, to the best of

your recollection?

Dr. CARRICO. At about 1 o'clock.

Mr. SPECTER. At approximately what time did you leave the trauma room

where the President was brought?

Dr. CARRICO. I left right at one when we decided that he was dead.

Mr. SPECTER. And did the other doctors leave at the same time or did

any remain in the trauma room?

Dr. CARRICO. I left before some of the other doctors, I do not remember

specifically who was there. I believe Dr. Baxter was, Dr. Jenkins was

still there, I believe. And I think Dr. Perry was.

Mr. SPECTER. You have described a number of doctors in the course of

your testimony up to this point. Would you state what other doctors

were present during the time the President was treated, to the best of

your recollection?

Dr. CARRICO. Well, I have already mentioned Dr. Don Curtis, the surgery

resident; Martin White, an interne; Dr. Perry was there, Dr. Baxter,

Dr. McClelland, a member of the surgery staff; Dr. Ronald Jones,

chief surgery resident; Dr. Jenkins, chief of anesthesia; several

other physicians whose names I can't remember at the present. Admiral

Burkley, I believe was his name, the President's physician, was there

as soon as he got to the hospital.

Mr. SPECTER. What is your view, Dr. Carrico, as to how many bullets

struck the President?

Dr. CARRICO. At the time of the initial examination I really had no

view. In view of what we have been told by you, and the Commission, two

bullets would be my opinion.

Mr. SPECTER. Based on the additional facts which I have asked you to

assume----

Dr. CARRICO. Yes, sir.

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