Mr. BELIN. Would the shirt be lighter than Exhibit 150 or about the
same color or darker or would Exhibit 150 look anything like the shirt
you thought he was wearing, if you know?
Mr. SCOGGINS. No, I don't, so I couldn't answer that.
Mr. BELIN. And you say you don't know, or you think this is different
than what he was wearing?
Mr. SCOGGINS. I couldn't say about the shirt.
Mr. BELIN. All right.
Mr. SCOGGINS. I just couldn't.
Mr. BELIN. Mr. Scoggins, when you were in Dallas the other day and they
took these pictures, they also tried to take a picture through your car
windows toward the place where the car of Officer Tippit was parked, is
that correct?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember where the car of Officer Tippit was parked
on November 22d?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Well, it was parked approximately between the first and
second houses and across the driveway between the houses, pretty well
across the driveway.
Mr. BELIN. Was it parked across a driveway?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes, sir. As well as I remember, it was.
Mr. BELIN. Handing you what has been marked Exhibit 522, which purports
to be a picture taken of a squad car, and I don't know if you can see
through the window a little driveway----
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Does that appear to be the driveway in front of which the
squad car was parked?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Does that appear to be the two houses between which the
driveway ran?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes. This would be the two houses--and the other one I
didn't know.
Mr. BELIN. We have a magnifying glass here, and I believe with it we
might be able to see the number on that house. Can you see the number
over the doorway of that house?
Mr. SCOGGINS. 404.
Mr. BELIN. That would be which street?
Mr. SCOGGINS. That would be on East 10th, on the south side.
Mr. BELIN. This appears to be, or does not appear to be, the position
of the car on November 22?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes; that appears to be the approximate position; I would
say it was.
Mr. BELIN. Now, handing you what has been marked Exhibit 532, do you
remember when this picture was taken?
Mr. SCOGGINS. I remember the day. I don't remember the date of it.
Mr. BELIN. But you remember it was taken?
Mr. SCOGGINS. I remember it was taken.
Mr. BELIN. Sometime in March of this year?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. You saw the photographer point the camera through the window?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Is this about the view that you had toward the police car on
November 22d?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. As you were eating your lunch?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. And it appears that you can see through one of the windows
there the police car, is that correct?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Was the police car at the time Exhibit 532 was taken, was it
in the approximate same position that the car of Officer Tippit was on
November 22?
Mr. SCOGGINS. I would think so, yes.
Mr. BELIN. Well, you saw the police car there?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Was it parked about in front of that driveway?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes; I would say in the same area. You know, it may not
be on the same inch.
Mr. BELIN. Within a foot or two?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. I wonder if you would take Exhibit 523 and see if there is
any number on Exhibit 523 which corresponds to the position of the man
who was walking along East 10th Street, or wherever he was when you
first saw him.
Mr. SCOGGINS. Approximately where 16 is.
Mr. BELIN. Yes; you are pointing to the position where the arrow is in
number 16?
Mr. BALL. Mr. Belin, he didn't see him walking.
Mr. SCOGGINS. I saw him there.
Mr. BELIN. I used the word "walking." Pardon me. When you first saw him
he was on point 16. Where did you see him when you next saw him, where
did you see him when he moved?
Mr. SCOGGINS. When I next saw him he was in the process of running up
10th Street.
Mr. BELIN. You next saw him after the shooting then?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes; I did.
Mr. BELIN. About where was he on 10th Street when you next saw him?
Mr. SCOGGINS. He was on the sidewalk when I saw him, about, I would
say, about--I am trying to figure out now--about number 21 or back a
little piece from 21.
Mr. BELIN. Here is the squad car and 21 would be just east of the squad
car?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. All right. You saw him there?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. What was he doing when you saw him in the area of 21 in
Exhibit 523?