Mr. MOONEY. But as to being positive of the exact distance----

Mr. BALL. You think that the cartridges are in the same position as

when you saw them in this picture 510?

Mr. MOONEY. As far as my knowledge, they are; pretty close to right.

Mr. BALL. Well, we will label these cartridges, the empty shells as

"A", "B", and "C."

Now, I didn't quite understand--did you say it was your memory that "A"

and "B" were not that close together?

Mr. MOONEY. Just from my memory, it seems that this cartridge ought to

have been over this way a little further.

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