Mr. MOONEY. That is the three boxes that were there; yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Are they arranged as they were when you saw them?
Mr. MOONEY. I am not positive. As I remember right, there was one box
tilted off.
Mr. BALL. What were the boxes--did they have a label on them, two of
the boxes?
Mr. MOONEY. These do. I didn't notice the label at that time.
Mr. BALL. That is a picture of the window?
Mr. MOONEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Do I understand that you say that it appeared to you that the
top box was tilted?
Mr. MOONEY. The end of it was laying this way.
Mr. BALL. You say there was a crease in a box. Where was that crease?
Mr. MOONEY. This crease was right in this area of this box.
Mr. BALL. You mean over on the edge?
Mr. MOONEY. Yes, sir; on this far ledge here, where I am laying my
finger.
Mr. BALL. Did it go into the box?
Mr. MOONEY. Very slight crease, very slight.
Mr. BALL. Can you take this and point out about where the crease was on
509?
Now, was there anything you saw over in the corner?
Mr. MOONEY. No, sir; I didn't see anything over in the corner. I did
see this one partially eaten piece of fried chicken laying over to the
right. It looked like he was facing----
Mr. BALL. Tell us where you found it?
Mr. MOONEY. It would be laying over on the top of these other boxes.
This here is kind of blurred.
Mr. BALL. We will get to that in a moment. Now, I show you 510.
(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 510 for
identification.)
Mr. BALL. Is that the empty shells you found?
Mr. MOONEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Are they shown there?
Mr. MOONEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Now, will you take this and encircle the shells?
Mr. MOONEY. All right.
Mr. BALL. Put a fairly good sized circle around each shell. That is the
way they were when you saw them, is that right?
Mr. MOONEY. Yes, sir. I assume that this possibly could have been the
first shot.
Mr. BALL. You cannot speculate about that?
Mr. MOONEY. You cannot speculate about that.
Mr. BALL. Those were empty shells?
Mr. MOONEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. They were turned over to Captain Fritz?
Mr. MOONEY. Yes, sir; he was the first officer that picked them up, as
far as I know, because I stood there and watched him go over and pick
them up and look at them. As far as I could tell, I couldn't even tell
what caliber they were, because I didn't get down that close to them.
They were brass cartridges, brass shells.
Mr. BALL. Is this the position of the cartridges as shown on 510, as
you saw them?
Mr. MOONEY. Yes, sir. That is just about the way they were laying, to
the best of my knowledge. I do know there was--one was further away,
and these other two were relatively close together--on this particular
area. But these cartridges--this one and this one looks like they are
further apart than they actually was.
Mr. BALL. Which ones?
Mr. MOONEY. This one and this one.
Mr. BALL. Now, two cartridges were close together, is that right?
Mr. MOONEY. The one cartridge here, by the wall facing, is right. And
this one and this one, they were further away from this one.