Mrs. PAINE. Or later.
Mr. JENNER. Of the interview?
Mrs. PAINE. At least between that time and the time he came again, but
I have been impressed with what I have now concluded was a mistaken
impression I have which effected my behavior; namely, that the FBI
was in possession of a great deal of information, or so I thought,
and certainly would find it very easy to find out where Lee Oswald
was living. I really didn't believe they didn't know or needed to
find out from me. This is a feeling stemming from my understanding of
the difficulties they faced working in a free society. I would behave
quite differently now, but I have learned a lot from this particular
experience.
Mr. JENNER. Now was there a subsequent interview?
Mrs. PAINE. There was an interview a few days later, yes, interview to
the extent that he came to the door, walked in the door. We didn't as
much as sit down. But he asked again about an address. I had none. I
did say that I expected----
Mr. JENNER. An address as to where Lee resided?
Mrs. PAINE. In town where he resided. I did say that I expected that
when Marina moved into an apartment with Lee again, as we all thought
would occur, that I would be in contact with her, and that I would be
perfectly willing to give him information as to that address when I had
such, but that my contact was with her and therefore through that way I
would have the address.
Mr. JENNER. Were you again interviewed by telephone or otherwise by any
FBI agent prior to November 22, 1963.
Mrs. PAINE. I have mentioned two times.
Mr. JENNER. Yes.
Mrs. PAINE. And that was all.
Mr. JENNER. That was all. So up to the time of the assassination, the
only interviews with the FBI to your knowledge were on the first?
Mrs. PAINE. That is right.
Mr. JENNER. You will recall your testimony yesterday, Mrs. Paine, of
the incident in which a telephone call was made by you at the request
of Marina using the telephone number that has been left with you by
Lee Oswald, and your inability to locate him, in fact the person who
answered the telephone stated that there was no Lee Oswald living
there. Do you recall your testimony on that score?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Did you report that to the FBI?
Mrs. PAINE. No; I did not.
Mr. JENNER. You also recall your testimony with respect to the draft of
the proposed letter which I think is before you, and that is Commission
exhibit number?
Mrs. PAINE. 130.
Mr. JENNER. Did you call the FBI and advise them of that incident?
Mrs. PAINE. No; I did not.
Mr. JENNER. And without seeking to have you repeat your testimony, were
your reasons for not doing so the same as the one that you gave when I
asked you whether you had given Agent Hosty the telephone number?
Mrs. PAINE. No; not identical. Certainly I didn't think that they had
any information of such a letter, whereas I did think they knew where
he lived or could easily find out, and of course they could also come
to the house and see him at my house as he came on weekends.
Mr. JENNER. You did say to the FBI?
Mrs. PAINE. I did.
Mr. JENNER. That he would be at your home on weekends.
Mrs. PAINE. And I judged by the fact they didn't come that this was
not someone they were terribly worried about talking to immediately.
Both this letter, and the telephone conversation really, the one that
followed it, where Marina reported to me that he was using a different
name, were something new and different in the situation that made me
feel this was a man I hadn't accurately perceived before.
I have said my impression in reading the letter was--I have said
something similar to this--that of a small boy wanting to get in good
with the boys, trying to use words that he thought would please. I
didn't know to whom he addressed himself, but it struck me as something
out of Pravda in his terminology. And I knew, as I have testified, that
several of the statements in it were flatly false, and I wondered about
the rest, and then when I heard that he was using a different name,
that again was indication of a great disregard for truth on the part of
Lee Oswald.
Mr. JENNER. Now what time of day did the interview on November 1 take
place?
Mrs. PAINE. Afternoon.
Mr. JENNER. Late?
Mrs. PAINE. Middle of the afternoon. My memory is there were no
children around which means it was nap time.
Mr. JENNER. It couldn't have been along about 5 o'clock in the
afternoon?
Mrs. PAINE. It was a Friday, wasn't it?
Mr. JENNER. Yes, it was.
Mrs. PAINE. And he probably came out that Friday.
Mr. JENNER. You were just telling the agent, you had told the agent,
had you not, that he came on weekends.
Mrs. PAINE. I did.
Mr. JENNER. And he arrived on Fridays?
Mrs. PAINE. I did.
Mr. JENNER. And this was a Friday?