Mr. JENNER. With respect to that trip----

Mrs. PAINE. You must remember I was shopping when he arrived on the

afternoon of the 4th.

Mr. JENNER. Yes.

Mrs. PAINE. So I didn't see him when he arrived that moment.

Mr. JENNER. But you do have a recollection of having seen the zipper

bag on Monday?

Mrs. PAINE. The 7th.

Mr. JENNER. When you took him to the bus terminal for the purpose of

his returning to downtown Dallas?

Mrs. PAINE. To find a room and live there and have sufficient clothing

there.

That is my best recollection.

Mr. JENNER. Is that the first time you had seen the zipper bag?

Mrs. PAINE. No.

Mr. JENNER. From the time you had left New Orleans on the 23d?

Mrs. PAINE. So far as I recall.

Mr. JENNER. Did you notice anything else in the way of pieces of

luggage in your home after you came back from the shopping center that

afternoon of October 4th that hadn't been there prior to his arrival?

Mrs. PAINE. No.

Mr. JENNER. The only piece of luggage of which you have any

recollection then is the zipper bag which you saw him take with him

when he left on Monday morning, the 7th?

Mrs. PAINE. And that is, I would not say a certain recollection. But

that is the best I have.

Mr. JENNER. It is your best recollection anyhow?

Mrs PAINE. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. Now, when you returned to your home did you have any

discussion with Marina about Lee's departure and his future plans and

her understanding of them?

Mrs. PAINE. No; nothing I recall specifically.

Mr. JENNER. None at all.

What discussion went on between you and Marina, that is the subject

matter with respect to his weekend visits?

Mrs. PAINE. She wanted to be certain it was all right for him to come

out, you know that it wasn't too much of an imposition on me. We got

into discussing his efforts to find a job. Then Monday, the 14th as

best as I recall, was the first time we talked about him, more than to

say it was too bad he didn't find something. This is the----

Mr. JENNER. During the course of the week was there discussion between

you and Marina respecting Lee Oswald's attempt at employment?

Mrs. PAINE. No.

Mr. JENNER. Now, there came an occasion, did there not, that weekend or

the following weekend at which there was a discussion at least by you

with some neighbors with respect to efforts to obtain employment for

Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mrs. PAINE. As best I can reconstruct it this was, while having coffee

at my immediate neighbors, Mrs. Ed Roberts, and also present was Mrs.

Bill Randle, and Lee had said over the weekend that he had gotten the

last of the unemployment compensation checks that were due him, and

that it had been smaller than the others had been, and disappointing in

its smallness and he looked very discouraged when he went to look for

work.

Mr. JENNER. Did he say anything about amount?

Mrs. PAINE. I didn't hear the question.

Mr. JENNER. Did he say anything about amount?

Mrs. PAINE. No; he didn't, just less.

Mr. JENNER. All right.

Mrs. PAINE. And the subject of his looking for work and that he hadn't

found work for a week, came up while we were having coffee, the four

young mothers at Mrs. Roberts' house, and Mrs. Randle mentioned that

her younger brother, Wesley Frazier thought they needed another person

at the Texas School Book Depository where Wesley worked.

Marina then asked me, after we had gone home, asked me if I would

call----

Mr. JENNER. Was Marina present during this discussion?

Mrs. PAINE. Yes; Marina was present, yes, indeed.

Mr. JENNER. Did she understand the conversation?

Mrs. PAINE. It was a running translation, running, faulty translation

going on.

Mr. JENNER. You were translating for her?

Mrs. PAINE. I was acting as her translator. And then after we came

home she asked me if I would call the School Book Depository to see if

indeed there was the possibility of an opening, and at her request, I

did telephone----

Mr. JENNER. Excuse me, please.

Mrs. PAINE. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. While you were still in the Roberts' home was there any

discussion at all of the subject mentioned by you or by Mrs. Randle

or Mrs. Roberts or anyone else, of calls to be made, or that might be

made, to the Texas School Book Depository in this connection?

Mrs. PAINE. I don't recall this discussion. As I recall it was a

suggestion made by Marina to me after we got home, but I may be wrong.

Mr. JENNER. But that is your best recollection that you are now

testifying to?

Mrs. PAINE. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. Is that correct?

Mrs. PAINE. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. You reached home and Marina suggested that "Would you

please call the Texas School Depository?"

Mrs. PAINE. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. What did you do?

Mrs. PAINE. I looked up the number in the book, and dialed it, was told

I would need to speak to Mr. Truly, who was at the warehouse. The phone

was taken to Mr. Truly, and I talked with him and said----

Mr. JENNER. You mean the call was transferred by the operator?

Mrs. PAINE. To Mr. Truly, and I said I know of a young man whose wife

was staying in my house, the wife was expecting a child, they already

had a little girl and he had been out of work for a while and was

very interested in getting any employment and his name, and was there

a possibility of an opening there, and Mr. Truly said he didn't know

whether he had an opening, that the young man should apply himself in

person.

Mr. JENNER. Which made sense.

Mrs. PAINE. Made very good sense for a personnel man to say.

Mr. JENNER. Did you make more than one call to this Texas School Book

Depository?

Mrs. PAINE. No.

Mr. JENNER. Only the one?

Mrs. PAINE. Only the one.

Mr. JENNER. What was the date of this call?

Mrs. PAINE. Reconstructing it, I believe it was October 14.

Mr. JENNER. What day of the week is October 14?

Mrs. PAINE. It is a Monday.

Mr. JENNER. Following that call and your talking with Mr. Truly, what

did you do?

Mrs. PAINE. Began to get dinner. Then Lee call the house.

Mr. JENNER. In the evening?

Mrs. PAINE. In the early evening.

Mr. JENNER. Did you talk with him?

Mrs. PAINE. Marina talked with him, then asked--then Marina asked me

to tell Lee in English what had transpired regarding the possible

job opening, and then I did say that there might be an opening in the

School Book Depository, that Mr. Truly was the man to apply to. Shall I

go on?

Mr. JENNER. Yes.

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