I tried not to remember anything of this.

How can a man try not to remember? What mental muscle is it that he

contracts when he tries not to remember? That is a metaphysical question

that interested me greatly when the man was testifying, for he said he

tried not to remember. Why did he try not to remember?

I didn't want to be called into court if I could possibly help it, and

for quite a long time did not mention the fact that I knew anything

of the books. But when I was called into court, I thought of all the

circumstances connected with the time that I copied the books; and a

few days ago, or a week or so ago, in going home one night, and thinking

this thing over in my mind, and thinking of everything I could think of,

my mind reverted to a conversation I had had at the time, laughing and

looking over the books.

It was not only one book, then.

And I wrote a great many letters, and read a great many names--They must

have been in the letter-books--and was laughing about the peculiarity of

the names, and even made the remark, "There is even Smith and Jones in

it."

What a wonderful circumstance! In copying the books and making an index

of the three letter-books he found Smith and Jones. The difficulty would

have been not to find Smith or Jones.

That is the evidence of that man. When Rerdell first went to him, he

told Rerdell distinctly, "I remember no name of Smith; I remember no

name of Jones." And then he waited until Rerdell went on the stand and

swore that he copied those books, and that the names of Smith and Jones

were in them, and then his memory was refreshed, and he came here and

swore that the names of Smith and Jones were there. All of a sudden it

came to him, like a flash, and he subsequently had the conversation with

his wife. Gentlemen, you may believe it; I do not; not a word of it.

He is mistaken. He has mistaken imagination for memory; he has mistaken

what Mr. Rerdell told him now for something he thinks happened long ago.

He took the letter-books, too. May be there is where he found some of

his strange names.

Rerdell says, in swearing to the letter which he says was written by

Dorsey to Bosler on the 13th of May, 1879, that he (S. W. Dorsey) took

that book, all his own books that were not used for the mail business,

and boxed them up. When? In 1879. Mr. Kellogg swears that after they

were boxed up they were sent to New York. When? In 1879. And yet Rerdell

swears that between Christmas and New Year's, 1879, those books were at

the house of Mr. Gibbs to be indexed. It will not do. And Rerdell swears

that he had the letter-book containing the letter of May 13, here in

1881, when he went to MacVeagh, and yet, according to his own testimony,

that book was sent to New York in 1879. And he swears that the three

letter-books--and I will call your attention to them after a while--that

he had here, commenced on the 15th of May, and ended, I think, in April

or May, 1882. He swears that the letter written by Dorsey to Bosler

was written on the 13th of May, 1879, and then he swears that the first

letter in the three letter-books was dated the 15th of May, two days

afterward. So he had not the book here. I knew he did not have it,

because if he had had such a book with such a letter, he never would

have gone to New York to steal a book; he would have stolen that one.

Torrey took charge of the books January 27, 1880, and he kept them until

the 1st of May, 1880, in the Boreel Building, and then at that time

moved to 145 Broadway, and kept them there until the last of April,

1882.

Now, gentlemen, I will come to those red books again in a moment. Here

is a little piece of evidence about the books. You know it was the

hardest thing in the world to find out how many books this man had, how

many times they were copied, who copied them, and what he did with the

copies; and he got us all mixed up--counsel for the prosecution, the

Court, counsel for the defence--none of us could understand it. "How

many books did you have? What did you do with them?" "Well, I took

them to New York. No, I did not; I had some of them here." Finally

I manufactured out of my imagination a carpet-sack for him. I said,

"Didn't you take these books over to New York in a carpet-sack?" He said

"Yes," he did. He jumped at that carpet-sack like a trout at a fly. Let

me call your attention to some other evidence, on page 2637, near the

bottom. Donnelly is testifying:

Q. Was it an exact copy of the book?--A. It was not.

Q. In what did it differ from the book you were keeping?--There were

some items left out.

Q. What accounts did you leave out?--A. I left the William Smith account

out.

Q. What did you do with that amount in order to balance the books?

Now, I want you to pay particular attention to this answer.

A. My recollection is that I carried it to profit and loss.

Q. On the books or on the balance sheet?--A. On both.

Now, remember, these were the books made out to fool the committee. I

suppose there are some book-keepers on this jury. I suppose Mr. Greene

knows something about book-keeping, and Mr. Evans, and Mr. Crane, and

Mr. Gill. I do not know but you all do. And you know that when you carry

an amount to profit and loss you do not throw the name away; you keep

the name. If you have charged against Robert G. Ingersoll five thousand

dollars, which you never expect to get, and you want to charge it to

profit and loss, you make the charge and you put my name against that.

You put profit and loss against Robert G. Ingersoll's debt. Everybody

that ever kept a book knows that. If you carry an amount to profit and

loss you rewrite the name of the person who owes the debt. So that when

he says, "My recollection is that I carried it to profit and loss,"

there would be a name twice in the book instead of once. If it was

simply in the book once it would be, "William Smith, debtor, eighteen

thousand dollars." But if you carry that to profit and loss you must

credit profit and loss by this William Smith amount, and consequently

get the name in the book twice instead of once. And that is what they

call covering it up. They were so afraid that somebody would see an

account against William Smith in one part of the book that they opened

another account in the profit and loss business and put it in again.

That would be twice. Now, let us go on a little:

Q. Were there any other accounts transferred in the same way?--A. I

rather think there were, but I am not certain.

Q. Did you make the books balance on your copy?--A. Yes, sir.

Q. How long were you working on that copy?--A. I was working on it two

evenings and all of one night.

Now, recollect, in the copy that he made, he carried the account of

William Smith--and may be Jones, he does not remember--to profit and

loss.

Now, let us take the next step. Let us go to page 2269. This is as good

as a play. Donnelly swears that when he made the first copy he carried

the William Smith account and some other to profit and loss. Rerdell

swears that acting upon the hint of General Brady he got a man to

do--what? To make another copy and leave out the items that had

heretofore been charged to profit and loss. Donnelly swears that he

balanced the books, and he is the only man that ever did balance the

books, according to the testimony. After Rerdell had been subpoenaed to

appear before the Congressional committee, he got another man, whom he

swears he put to work on the books, designating the entries to be left

out by drawing a pencil mark through them; that he told him to make up

a new set of books, leaving out those entries, but to leave the books so

that they would balance, taking the entries that were stricken out, and

also the same amount that had been carried to profit and loss, and leave

them entirely out. Rerdell swears that prior to that time these accounts

had been carried to profit and loss, and that he struck out the credits

to Dorsey.

Then the evidence as it stands is this: Rerdell swears that Mrs. Gibbs

copied the journal and ledger. Gibbs does not swear it, but Rerdell

does. That made four books. Then he got Donnelly to make another set of

books with the William Smith and Dorsey accounts carried to profit and

loss.

That is six books. After he had been subpoenaed by the committee he got

another man to make a new set of books and leave out the William Smith

and Dorsey accounts and the profit and loss account, and that makes

eight books. And there we are, so far as that is concerned.

Now, gentlemen, I have come to one other view of this case. I hope

that you will not forget--because I do not want to speak of it all the

time--that this man Rerdell swears that he had the original letter-press

copy of that letter which he says Dorsey wrote to Bosler. Do not forget

that. He says he had that before he went to New York to steal the red

books; do not forget that. And that he gave that testimony away; do not

forget that. That he says he had it copied by Miss White, and they do

not introduce Miss White to show that she copied it; do not forget that.

Do not forget, too, that he had when he was there the tabular statement

in the handwriting of S. W. Dorsey.

Mr. Ingersoll. [Resuming.] Gentlemen, on page 2286 Mr. Rerdell gives

the contents of a letter which he says Dorsey wrote to him the night he,

Rerdell, left New York, and when he says he had the book with him. He

swears, you remember, that afterwards Dorsey tore the letter up. Let me

read you the letter as he says it was written:

The letter started out by stating that he did not believe the report

that had been brought to him in reference to myself, and that he also

believed the affidavit story to be a lie. He plead in the letter for the

sake of his wife and children and himself, and his social and business

relations, and the friendship that had long existed between us not to do

anything for his injury; for God's sake to reconsider everything that I

had done and take no steps further until he could see me. It was in that

strain, simply begging me not to do anything further until he could see

me.

Now, let us analyze that letter, keeping in our minds what Rerdell has

sworn. Rerdell has sworn that when he went to the Albermarle Hotel he

told Dorsey what he had done; that he had had the conversations with

MacVeagh and James. Let me call your attention to the dispatch from

Jersey City. First, Dorsey wrote to Rerdell that he did not believe the

report that had been brought to him; _that had been brought to him_. He

could not have used that word "brought" if Rerdell had been the bringer.

If Rerdell had made the report to him in person he could not have

written to Rerdell, "I do not believe the report that has been brought

to me." The use of the word "brought" shows that somebody else told him;

not the person to whom he wrote. "The report." What report? There is

only one answer. The report that Rerdell had been in consultation with

the Government. He writes to Rerdell, "I don't believe that report

that has been brought to me," and yet when he wrote it, if Rerdell's

testimony is true, he knew that Rerdell had given him that very report

and he knew that Rerdell would know that he, Rerdell, had told Dorsey

that very thing. Second, that he, Dorsey'', believed the affidavit story

to be a lie. There is again in this horizon of falsehood one little

cloud of truth. Rerdell had not made an affidavit. He had told James,

MacVeagh, Woodward, and Clayton what you know, but he had not made

any affidavit, and when he was charged, if he was, with having made an

affidavit, it delighted him to have one little speck of truth, just one

thing that he could honestly deny. That was the one thing. He had not

yet made an affidavit. Third, Dorsey plead with him in the letter for

the sake of his wife, his children, himself, his social and business

relations, and the friendship that had long existed between them, not to

do what? Not to do anything further. According to Rerdell, he told him

in the letter he did not believe he had done anything. Rerdell swears

that he wrote to him in the letter that he did not believe the report;

that is, that he had yet done anything, and then wound up the letter by

begging him, for God's sake, not to do anything _further_. How came he

to use the word "further"? "Don't take any further steps. I know that

you have not taken any step at all, but do not, I pray you, take any

further steps." That letter will not hang together. Dorsey swears he

never wrote it. Finally, the letter comes down to this: "I don't believe

the report. I do not believe you have done anything. But, for God's

sake, do not do anything more." It is like the old Scotch verdict when a

man was tried for larceny. The jury found him not guilty, but stated at

the end of the verdict, "We hope the defendant will never do so again."

The first part of this letter shows that Dorsey did not believe that he

had done anything. The last part of it shows that he did believe he had

done something and that he must not go further. No one can tell why

he introduced the word "further" into this letter upon any other

hypothesis. Now, I read to you, from page 2287, what Rerdell says

happened at the Albermarle Hotel:

He charged me with holding interviews with Mr. James, the

Postmaster-General, and the Attorney-General, and asked me what I meant

by it. I told him my action was in his behalf; that I had been keeping

up with the newspapers, and knowing the facts in regard to this mail

business, what I had done was done in his behalf.

That is, he did not deny that he had these conversations, did not deny

the report, did not deny that he had met the Attorney-General and the

Postmaster-General, but said:

My action was in your behalf.

And then, according to Rerdell, after that Dorsey wrote him a letter, in

which he said, "I do not believe the report," although Rerdell had made

the report to him himself. May be that is the reason he did not believe

it.

Now, let me read to you the conversation on his return from New York and

see how it agrees with the letter. It is on page 2288:

Mr. Dorsey immediately brought up the conversation that we had had over

in New York, and what I had done by going to Mr. Mac-Veagh, and asked me

if I intended to ruin him. I said no, I did not; it was not my intention

to ruin him; it was my intention to help him out of what I thought to be

a bad difficulty.

Q. What did he say?--A. He then asked me if I had done anything further

since I had left him.

Yet in the letter that he wrote him from the Albermarle Hotel he said

that he did not believe the report and did not believe that he had done

anything against him. The first thing he asked him when he got here was,

"Have you done anything further against me?"

I said no, I had not; I had not been near Mr. MacVeagh. He then says,

"Well, how shall we get out of this?" I says. "Mr. Dorsey, I will do

anything that I can except to commit perjury."

A very natural remark for Mr. Rerdell to make. He would do anything

but that. That testimony shows that Dorsey never wrote the letter which

Rerdell says he did write from New York. That testimony shows that they

did not have the conversation in New York that Rerdell says they had.

That testimony shows that they did have exactly the conversation which

Mr. Dorsey swears they had.

Now, I come, gentlemen, to the affidavit of June 20,1881. I would like

the letter of July 5, 1882, which is on page 3733.

You understand this affidavit was made in consequence of the

conversation, as he says, that he had with Dorsey after Dorsey came

back from New York, in which he said he would do anything except commit

perjury, and when Dorsey told him, "Damn it, what does that amount to

when a friend is involved? I would not hesitate a moment." Consequently

he swears that he made up his mind for the sake of friendship to swear

to a lie for Mr. Dorsey. That is what he says now. On the 5th of July,

1882, while we were in the midst of the other trial, and when Mr.

Rerdell, as he says, contemplated going over to the Government, and when

he would not put evidence in our hands against himself, he wrote this

letter:

July 5, 1882.

Senator: What I am going to say here may surprise you, while, judging

from certain circumstances that to me are easily to be seen, you may not

be taken by surprise.

To commence with this, it will be necessary to go back about a year

to the time when, looking forward to the inevitable result of the

star-route matters--I started to put myself in accord with the

Government. At that time I had no thought of being included in any

prosecution or indictment, supposing that as an agent I could not be

held criminally responsible. Had I for one moment thought it possible

nothing could have changed my mind, even anxious as I was to benefit

you. The consequence was, I listened to Bosler and did what I will

ever regret. First, because of the unenviable notoriety given me in

consequence of doing what he persuaded me to do.

Who persuaded him? Mr. Bosler. He writes that on the 5th of July, 1882,

when, as he said, he had made up his mind to go over to the Government,

and when he would not willingly put a club in our hands with which to

dash out his brains.

Second, because, let this case go as it may, I am still left under a

cloud--That is a pitiable statement. That man under a cloud!--both with

your friends and acquaintances, and the public generally.

Here comes, gentlemen, the blossom and flower of this paragraph:

And that, too, almost penniless.

Then the letter goes on:

These are stern facts, and cannot be ignored, while had I continued

acting with the Government my reputation would have been clear, and no

doubt been appointed to a good position.

The Government must have promised the gentleman an office when he went,

in June, 1881, to Woodward and to Clayton and to the Attorney-General

and to the Postmaster-General. According to this letter, among

other things he was to have an office, the steamboat route was to be

reinstated, the Jennings' claim was to be allowed, his father-in law was

to get a clerkship, and according to this letter he also was to have a

position. That is civil service reform! What does he say?

At least I have every reason to believe such would have been the result.

He would have had an office, he has every reason to believe. Why? They

must have promised it to him.

This now brings us to the present time. I have an opportunity to redeem

myself, and think it best to do so, as by so doing I can be entirely

relieved of the indictment.

The Government then must have promised him in 1882 that the indictment

should be dismissed as against him. Is it possible that he would tell a

lie, gentlemen? Is it possible the prosecution will say that he lied on

the 13th of July, 1882, but in 1883, having met with a change of heart,

he told the truth? No.

In taking this step let me say this: It is the result of much thought

and also of preparation.

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