A. W. MOORE.

To when? To July 24? No, sir; he settled with Dorsey to July 11, 1878.

The gentlemen had forgotten that he gave that. If he had only had a

little more brains he would have avoided the two hundred and fifty

dollars, that even amount, and he would have said, "Dorsey did look

over my books, and we had a little dispute about some items, and we just

jumped at two hundred and fifty dollars." But he swears that was the

actual settlement, and then we bring in his receipt in writing,

dated the 24th of July, 1878, saying that he received one hundred and

sixty-six dollars that day, and that it was in full of his salary and

expenses, not up to that date, but up to the nth of July, 1878. If his

testimony is true, he stole that one hundred and sixty-six dollars. If

his testimony is true, he settled with Dorsey in full for two hundred

and fifty dollars, and then he was mean enough to go and get one hundred

and sixty-six dollars more for the same time. No, gentlemen, he was all

right enough about it then; he told the falsehood here.

Now, what does Dorsey swear? Dorsey swears that he received an order

from Miner to give this man two hundred and fifty dollars. Miner swears

that if Dorsey paid him anything it was on his, Miner's, request. That

is a v perfectly natural proceeding for Mr. Miner to request Dorsey to

pay this man two hundred and fifty dollars. The man came to Dorsey's

house. Dorsey gave him two hundred and fifty dollars upon Miner's order.

He was trusting John R. Miner for the money, and it was none of his

business whether Miner owed it or not, and consequently he did not

look at his book. Now, every fact is consistent with the truth of Mr.

Dorsey's testimony; the fact is consistent with the truth of Miner's

testimony; and the receipt of this man given to Miner on the 24th of

July, 1878, demonstrates that he did not tell the truth, under oath, in

this court before you.

That is the end of Mr. Moore; that is the end of him. You never need

bother about him again as long as you live.

Why, they say, "Why didn't you impeach him?" He impeached himself. "Why

didn't you call so-and-so?" Because we had that receipt; that is why.

No need of killing a man that is dead. You need not give poison to a

corpse. When a thing is buried, let it go. When a man commits suicide,

you need not murder him. When he destroys his own testimony, let it

alone; it will not hurt you.

I am not afraid of the testimony of Mr. Moore. If these gentlemen can

galvanize it into the appearance of life, I should be very happy to see

them do it. Everything that he swore upon this stand that in any way

touched the defendants is shown not to be true.

Why should Dorsey have told him in 1878 to get up fraudulent petitions?

Even Rerdell does not swear that in 1879 Dorsey instructed him to get

up fraudulent petitions, and certainly he would go to the limit of the

truth. After he made his story out of a piece of true cloth there would

be very few scraps left. He would certainly go clear to the line. And

yet, even he does not swear that when he went West to make contracts, to

get up petitions, he was instructed by Mr. Dorsey to get up a fraudulent

petition--not once. And yet Moore swears that in 1878, when Dorsey was

in the Senate, he told him to get up these fraudulent petitions. It will

not do.

Mr. Major swears that what he says about it is not true; Mr. McBean

swears that what he says about it is not true; and then we have Moore's

own receipt showing that it is not true.

On page 4757 Mr. Bliss says--Moore stands before you, therefore, so

far as all this testimony is concerned, wholly and absolutely

uncontradicted.

His testimony was that he was employed by Dorsey; his testimony was that

he was settled with by Dorsey, and the testimony of the receipt that he

signed is that he settled with Miner and not with Dorsey; the testimony

of Miner is that he was settled with by Miner, and not with by Dorsey;

the testimony of Dorsey is that he never had any conversation with him

in the world except at the time he paid him the two hundred and fifty

dollars. They say Rerdell was present at the conversation. Why did they

not prove it by Rerdell after Dorsey had sworn to the contrary? And

yet Mr. Bliss tells you that he is not contradicted--"utterly

uncontradicted."

Mr. Ker, it seems, has an opinion of this same witness, I believe. He

says, on page 4511:

He says he started out and went to work, as these records show, and made

the subcontracts according to his instructions, and got up the petitions

according to his instructions.

He swears he did not get up a petition at all, not one; he swears that

he had not time. And yet these gentlemen say that he got up petitions

according to his instructions, and he swears he did not. He swears he

told Major to, and that Major signified his willingness to do it. Major

swears that that is a falsehood. He swears the same with reference to

McBean, and McBean swears that it is a falsehood. Now Mr. Ker goes on:

He fixed them up and changed the language a little in some, and in some

he did not take the trouble to change, but he fixed them all so that

there was a space between the writing and the names, so that they could

be cut off and pasted on other papers.

He expressly denies that he ever fixed a petition in the world.

Mr. Ker. What page?

Mr. Ingersoll. You ask the page! Talk to the jury seven days! I say that

this man never fixed up a petition, and he never says that he fixed up

a petition. Where is the page on which he says it? He was willing to

do it, but he had not the time. I will show you that language. There is

what they say about this man. Then he says he got a note from Miner, and

went to Denver and met Miner. That is right. Then Miner offered him a

quarter interest in the routes in this vast conspiracy.

Let us find what Moore thinks of himself. We find that on page 1398. He

is a good man, worthy of this case, according to the eternal fitness of

things. I come to this quicker than I thought I would. It is page 1396:

Q. Did you get up any?--A. No, sir; I didn't have the time.

There it is. Now, of course, Mr. Ker forgot. I call your attention to

this to show how little weight such evidence is entitled to in reference

to a conversation five years ago, when Mr. Ker could not remember this

with the book before him.

Mr. Ker. I asked you for the page on which Mr. McBean's testimony

appears.

Mr. Ingersoll. Mr. Moore is the witness. Mr. Moore swears that he never

got up such a petition. Mr. Ker says he did. He and Mr. Ker will have to

settle their own difficulty.

On last Friday, in reply, I think, to a question of Mr. Ker, I stated

that I thought McBean swore that Mr. Moore did not make any arrangement

with him to get up false petitions. In that I was mistaken. Mr. Moore

swore that he made an arrangement with McBean to get up petitions. He

did not quite swear that McBean agreed to get up false and fraudulent

petitions. He just came to the edge of it and did not quite swear to it.

Afterwards McBean was recalled by the Government and the Government did

not ask McBean whether he had ever agreed to get up any petitions or

whether he had ever made any such arrangement with Moore. They did not

ask him and we did not ask him. I do not know why they did not ask him.

They probably know.

I also stated that Moore swore that he got his instructions about these

petitions from Dorsey. The evidence is that he got his instructions

not from Dorsey but from Miner; that Miner so instructed him, and that

thereupon he made the bargain to get up such petitions with a man by the

name of Major on the Redding and Alturas route. I make this correction

because I do not want you or any one else to think that I wish any

misstatement made in our favor. We do not need it and consequently there

is no need of making it. You will remember that after Moore swore that

he made a bargain with Major to get up false petitions, Major swore that

it was untrue. You will also remember that Judge Carpenter called

for the petitions that were gotten up upon the routes that Moore had

something to do with, and I think he showed you on one route eleven or

twelve petitions. Mr. Major swears that every petition was honest, that

the statements in each petition were true, and that the signatures were

genuine. All those petitions were shown to you. So that the result of

the Moore testimony is this: Moore swears that Miner told him to get

up such petitions. He then swears that he made that bargain with Major.

Major says it is not true. Moore almost swears that he made the same

bargain with McBean. McBean says nothing on the subject. Then we bring

here the petitions upon those very routes, and especially upon the

Redding and Alturas route, and we find no such petitions as are

described by Moore. That is enough in regard to Mr. Moore upon that one

point.

There is one little piece of testimony to which I failed to call your

attention on Friday, and to which I will call your attention now. Moore

was the friend of Boone. Boone recommended him to Miner. It was through

Boone that Moore was employed. Now, I ask you if it is not wonderful

that Moore never told Boone that there was a conspiracy on foot? Is it

not wonderful that Moore did not tell Boone, his friend, the man to whom

he was indebted for the employment, "There is a conspiracy in this case.

Senator Dorsey as good as told me so. I know all about it."

The fact is he never said one word, and the reason we know it, is that

Boone swears that when he went out on the 7th or 8th of August he never

even suspected it. I cannot, it seems to me, make this point too plain.

Boone had been known by Dorsey for a long time. They were very good

friends. Dorsey had enough confidence in him to select him as the man

to get the necessary information after he had been requested so to do

in the letter. Boone was the man who attended to this business more than

anybody else. Boone was interested with John W. Dorsey. Boone had every

reason to find out exactly what was happening. He was at Dorsey's house,

where Miner was. He talked with Miner day after day. He helped get

up the bids. He did a great deal of mechanical work. He had the

subcontracts printed. Yet during all that time Dorsey never let fall a

chance expression that gave Boone even the dimmest dawn of a hint that

there was a conspiracy. Nobody told Boone. Moore, his friend, never

spoke of it.

Now, there is one other point with regard to Mr. Moore. Mr. Moore

swears, on page 1371, that Miner offered him a fourth interest in these

routes. That was the conversation in which he said Mr. Miner told him

they were good affidavit men. According to Moore's testimony he then

knew there was a conspiracy, and he understood that he was part and

parcel of it. Let me ask you right here, is it probable that Moore

would have been offered a quarter interest at that time if a conspiracy

existed, and if they had their plans laid to make hundreds of thousands

of dollars, and if the profits had depended upon the affidavits alone?

I ask you, as sensible, reasonable men, if he would have been offered a

quarter interest under those circumstances? Now conies in what I believe

to be the falsehood. Mr. Moore says that the interest was offered to

him by Miner, but Miner said it would have to be ratified by Stephen

W. Dorsey. That is brought in for the purpose of having some evidence

against Dorsey. You must recollect, gentlemen, that this evidence was

all purchased. This evidence was all bargained for in the open shamble.

You must recollect that there are upon the records of this court some

seven or ten indictments against A. E. Boone. You must remember that

Moore was Boone's friend. You must remember that Moore was a part of the

consideration that Boone was giving to the Government for immunity.

Mr. Merrick. Is there any proof of that?

Mr. Ingersoll. I think there is. Mr. Moore swears as to the number of

indictments against Boone. He was his friend. The jury have a right to

infer what motive prompts a witness. Moore wished to swear enough, so

that Mr. Boone would not be troubled. In my judgment, Mr. Boone,

being under indictment, gave evidence in this case in order that

the Government would take its clutch from his throat. He swore under

pressure. That is the system, gentlemen, that is dangerous in any

country. Whenever a Government advertises for witnesses; whenever a

Government says to a guilty man, or to a man who is indicted, "All we

ask of you is to help us convict somebody else;" whenever they advertise

for a villain, they get him. That is the result of what they call the

informer system--an infamous system. A court of justice, where justice

is done between man and man, is the holiest place on earth. The informer

system turns it into a den, into a cavern, into a dungeon, where crawl

the slimy monsters of perjury and treachery. That is the informer

system. It makes a court a den of wild beasts. What else does it do?

Under its brood and hatch come spies; spies to watch witnesses, spies to

watch counsel, spies to follow jurymen, so that a juror cannot leave his

house without the shadow of the spy falling upon his door-step. That is

not the proper attitude of a Government. The business of a Government

is to protect its citizens, not to spread nets. The business of a

Government is to throw its shield of power in front of the rights of

every citizen. I hold in utter, infinite, and absolute contempt any

Government that calls for informers and spies. Every trial should be in

the free air. All the work should be done openly. These sinister motions

in the dark, the crawling of these abnormal and slimy things, I abhor.

Now, to come back to Moore. Upon my word I think he was trying to help

his friend. After Mr. Miner had offered him a quarter interest, then

he came back to Washington. He arrived here, according to his evidence,

about the 11th day of July, I think. He went immediately to see Stephen

W. Dorsey. Recollect that. That was the time Dorsey settled with him

without looking at his books. After he settled with him and gave him

two hundred and fifty dollars he asked him to telegraph to see if the

service had been put on The Dalles and Baker City route. He waited here

until he received an answer, and after that he talked with Dorsey not

only about that matter, but in that conversation Dorsey said, according

to Moore, that it took a good deal of money to keep up their influence

in the department. When I asked him when that conversation was, he

said two or three days after the first conversation. According to the

evidence in this case Stephen W. Dorsey left this city on the 12th of

July. This man Moore arrived on the nth, and he says two or three days

after his arrival Dorsey said it took money to keep up their influence

here. When he swears that Dorsey told him that, Dorsey was in the city

of Oberlin, Ohio. Recollect these things. Whoever tells stories of this

character should have a most excellent memory.

Now, there is another thing. When did Miner get back? He got back by the

24th of July, because on the 24th of July he settled with Moore, and I

believe then Moore went West again. Now, remember there was a contract

made, as Moore swears. He has not got it. Nobody sees it. He says there

was a contract made by which he had a fourth interest in something.

He got back here I believe some time in November, and on the 20th of

November he and Miner settled. I will now look on page 1430 for that

settlement. I want you to see how everything was situated at that time.

I find on page 1430 that Mr. Miner settled for everybody with Mr. A. W.

Moore. Remember the situation. Moore knew there was a conspiracy. All

the service was on. You see, this was November 20, 1880. Vaile was

in. They had a man who was close to Brady. Everything was running in

magnificent style. Mr. Moore understood that there was a conspiracy.

What more did he understand? That he had the claw of his avarice in the

flesh of a United States Senator and in the flesh of a Second Assistant

Postmaster-General. Hundreds of thousands of dollars were to be made.

He came back here and settled up and sold out his interest for how much?

Six hundred and eighty-two dollars. Do you believe that? Credulity would

not believe it. Nobody believes it, that is if the rest of the story is

true. Why did he settle with him for so little? He said Mr. Miner told

him he hadn't a dollar. He did not reply to him, "When this conspiracy

is completed you will have plenty. I can wait." No. Miner said he hadn't

anything and so Moore settled for six hundred and eighty-two dollars.

Then I asked him, "You had a contract with Dorsey, did you?" "Yes;

verbally." "Did you ever say anything to Dorsey about it?" "No." "Did

you ever claim anything from Dorsey?" "No." "Did you ever write to

him?" "No." "Did you ever say anything to anybody that you had any

claim against Dorsey?" "No." You saw Mr. Moore, gentlemen, here upon the

stand. Do you think he is the kind of man who would let such a chance

slip? It is for you to judge. In my judgment that is the eternal end of

Moore's testimony. We can call him buried. We can put the sod over his

grave. We can raise a stone to the memory of A. W. Moore. Let him rest

in peace, or to use the initials only, let him R. I. P. That is the end

of him. If the Government wishes to dig up the corpse hereafter let them

dig.

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