CHAPTER XXVII.

The Speakership--Temporary Houses of Parliament--Church Reform--

Dissenters' Marriage Bill--Peel's False Position--Burke--

Palmerston's Talents as a Man of Business and Unpopularity--

Sympathy of Continental Courts with the Tories--Abercromby

elected Speaker--Defeat of the Government--Tactics of the

Opposition--The Speaker does not dine with Peel--Meeting of

Stanley's Friends--Debate on the Address--Lord John Russell

leads the Opposition--The Stanley Party--Second Defeat of the

Government--Peel's Ability--The Lichfield House Meeting--Debate

on Lord Londonderry's Appointment--His Speech in the Lords and

Resignation--Sir E. Sugden resigns the Great Seal of Ireland--

Lady Canterbury--Brougham in the House of Lords--Peel's

Readiness and Courage--Lord Canterbury and Stratford Canning

proposed for Canada--Approaching Fall of the Peel Government--

Meetings of the Opposition--Further Defeat--Sir Robert Peel's

own View of the State of Affairs--He resigns.

February 14th, 1835 {p.204}

[Page Head: OPENING OF THE SESSION.]

There has been a wonderful lull for some time past, and though we

are said to be, and I believe we in fact are, on the eve of a

crisis of great importance, perfect tranquillity prevails

universally (except, of course, in Ireland), and men go about

their daily occupations without any signs of apprehension. The

state of this country is a curious political paradox; however,

speculation will soon be lost in certainty, so it is of no use

thinking more of the matter. The newspapers have been filled

_usque ad nauseam_ with the debates about the Speakership, and

both parties are equally confident, but the bets are in favour of

Sutton. The argument on his side has been triumphant, and the

Abercrombians have not urged the best that they might. Tom

Duncombe, who at first said he would vote for Sutton, and now

votes the other way, puts it on the true ground, 'that it is a

good factious vote.' I have little doubt that Peel will come down

in Parliament with a fair and reasonable case, but I have no hope

that he will propose or agree to anything satisfactorily about

the Irish Church; and if anything overturns his Government, it

will be that unhappy question of appropriation. From George

Dawson's language, whom I fell in with the other morning, I see

they are resolved to stand like rocks in defending 'the Church,'

as they call it. All this week and the last I have been at my

office the whole day with our Judicial Committee, which works

very well. We have Shadwell, Parke, Bosanquet and Erskine

continually; and Vaughan, Nicholl and Jenner occasionally. Alava

talked to me about the Duke of Wellington, of whom he said

everybody was afraid, even his nearest relations, and that he

found him, 'tres change pour lui.'

February 15th, 1835 {p.205}

Dined at Miss Berry's, and Lord John Russell came after; told me

he had 320 people to vote with him on the Speakership (of whom

perhaps 20 will not come), so his party make sure of it. Nobody

talks of anything else, and what has been written on the subject

in pamphlets and newspapers would fill volumes. Though it is

become inconceivably tiresome, I cannot help writing and talking

about it myself, so impossible is it to avoid the contagion. I

went yesterday to see the two Houses of Parliament;[1] the old

House of Lords (now House of Commons) is very spacious and

convenient; but the present House of Lords is a wretched

dog-hole. The Lords will be very sulky in such a place, and in a

great hurry to get back to their own House, or to have another.

For the first time there is a gallery in the House of Commons

reserved for reporters, which is quite inconsistent with their

standing orders, and the prohibition which still in form exists

against publishing the debates. It is a sort of public and avowed

homage to opinion, and a recognition of the right of the people

to know through the medium of the press all that passes within

those walls.

[1] [The old Houses of Parliament were burnt down on

October 16, 1834, during Mr. Greville's absence from

town in the autumn. The Houses here spoken of were the

temporary buildings used during the erection of the new

Houses.]

[Page Head: CHURCH REFORM.]

[Page Head: FALSE POSITION OF SIR R. PEEL.]

Lord John said to me, 'Do you remember last year, when we were

talking, I told you I thought the House of Lords would throw out

some measure or other--that there would be a change of Government,

a dissolution; and then we should have a Parliament returned with

which _nobody_ could govern the country? You see we have reached

that point.' According to their several calculations, both the

opposite parties continue to claim a majority, or rather on the

Tory side an equality; and as these are made by men experienced in

the composition of the House, and as almost everybody is pledged

and committed in some way or other, it is a perfect enigma to me

how one or the other can be so deceived. The Whigs, having

discovered that Abercromby must be proposed 'upon a great

principle' (which is great as _omne ignotum_ is _magnificum_--for

they have never given a hint of what the principle is), have now

found out that the English Church Reform which is in agitation is

a very bad move on the part of the Government, as _the people_ do

not care about Church Reform here--do not want any such thing.

This is, very possibly, in great measure true; for _the people_,

who are urged and excited by the Radical leaders, will be sure to

grow indifferent about such reforms as they can obtain by

legitimate means, and with the concurrence of legitimate

authority, and be invited to agitate for those which may be more

difficult or slow of accomplishment. Sydney Smith said last night

that he hears from those who know that it will be very sweeping;

but he thinks it will not touch the great livings, nor meddle with

advowsons. He concludes that at the same time the Dissenters will

be relieved from Church rates, that tithes will be extinguished,

and the question of Dissenters' marriages settled. This has been

an enormous scandal, and its continuance has been owing to the

pride, obstinacy, and avarice of the Church; they would not give

up the fees they received from this source, and they were

satisfied to celebrate these rites in church while the parties

were from the beginning to the end of the service protesting

against all and every part of it, often making a most indecent

noise and interruption. All these grievous abuses must be done

away with; and deeply responsible are those who never would hear

of their being done away with before. These guilty parties are the

clergy and the Tories, both of whom, now that it is almost too

late, have consented to drop their arrogant pretensions, and to

submit to those necessary and reasonable reforms against which

they have so bitterly inveighed, and so resolutely fought. We are

disgusted and shocked at reading Croly's account of the scandalous

conduct of the Catholic clergy in Ireland, with regard to the

emoluments they extort from their miserable flocks, and at the

systematic desecration of holy things which they countenance and

practise; but when the difference is considered between their

spiritual condition and their moral composition as a class, the

conduct of the clergy here appears just as revolting. The Irish

clergy are generally sprung from the lowest class, and have

received a bad education at Maynooth; they depend for subsistence

upon the voluntary liberality or devotion of their people, they

have few motives or principles of restraint, and every incentive

to follow the shameful course which they do; but the English

clergy are generally respectably born, well educated, and amply

endowed, and yet they are content to be the ministers of a

scandalous system, which, if it were not a source of profit to

themselves, they would not tolerate for an instant. Instead of

compelling the Dissenters to be married in church, if they had

been really penetrated with any devotional feelings, or by any

considerations of delicacy and charity, they would long ago have

complained of this necessity as a grievance, and besieged the

Legislature with entreaties to relieve the Church from the

scandal, and themselves from so painful and odious a duty. But it

was a badge of inferiority and dependence forced upon the

Dissenters, and a source of profit to themselves; and therefore

they defended and maintained it, and this is what they call

defending the Church; and when the Dissenters themselves pray to

be relieved from the tax and the humiliation, and liberal men

support their prayer, a cry is got up that the Church is in

danger. When the Dissenters, having prayed in vain, grow louder

and bolder in their demands, and the cries of the Churchmen

gradually sink into a whine, which is at last silenced in

submission, the Church really is in danger; and then, when it no

longer can be refused, it becomes perilous to grant the boon which

justice and wisdom have so long required. So it is, and has been

with all obstinate and senseless denials, followed by reluctant

and tardy concessions--with Catholic emancipation, the Test and

Corporation Acts, Parliamentary Reform, and with everything else;

and thus, one of the great difficulties which beset Peel and his

Government is, that they stand in an utterly false position. As a

statesman, it must be mortifying to him to reflect that all the

great measures which his political life has been spent in opposing

have been carried in spite of him, and that whatever danger may

have resulted from this cause is in great measure owing to the

opposition he was enabled, by his great talents and his influence,

or rather the influence of the party which he led, to give to

those measures. He contrived totally to fail in preventing the

success of the measures themselves, but so to mar and delay them

as to obviate the good that might have been produced by timely and

voluntary concessions; and now, coming forward as he says, 'to

resist the pressure from without,' he finds himself compelled to

yield to that pressure; for what, after all, is the language which

he now holds, what are his addresses, his speeches, his promises,

his Church Commission, but a surrender to the spirit and the

principle of Reform, and to the demands of the people--_the

people_, as contra-distinguished from those great interests on

whose support he has depended, and whose wishes or prejudices he

has consulted? For assuredly, neither the King, nor the Church,

nor the aristocracy, seriously and sincerely desire these or any

other reforms, and only agree to them from necessity. Peel is, I

think, right; he has no other alternative. Such is the force and

power of public opinion, that no Government can resist it; and if

Peel can succeed in restraining and directing it, if he can

convert it from a destructive into a conservative element, he will

render such a great service as will cancel all the former mischief

he has done; but he enters with disadvantage upon a course which

implies at the outset the surrender of much of the governing

principle of his political life, and in which neither friend nor

foe can doubt that the conduct he adopts, however justifiable,

necessary, indispensable, is compulsory and unpalatable. A man who

is called to the head of affairs must undoubtedly act, not

according to any impracticable obstinate theories of his own, but

according to the state in which he finds affairs, no matter how

produced or by whom; but it is a very different thing to adopt a

system reluctantly and under necessity, because somebody else by

his incapacity or his misfortune has rendered it indispensable,

and to do so after you yourself have brought about this state of

things: and such is the false position of Peel with all his Tory

associates. This, however, is begging the question in dispute

between the two great antagonistic parties. Peel would say that

the imprudent concessions and reckless changes of the Whigs have

made the difficulty; the Whigs would say that the resistance of

the Tories to all moderate and gradual reforms produced the

sweeping measure of '31, and the excitement that was partly its

cause and partly its consequence.

February 17th, 1835 {p.209}

Yesterday I read Burke's appeal from the new to the old Whigs,

which contains astonishing coincidences with the present times.

His definition of the people is somewhat tumid and obscure, and

involved in a splendid confusion of generalities and abstruse

doctrine; but it is a wonderful monument of his genius, and

exhibits that extent of knowledge and accuracy of insight into the

nature of parties and the workings of political ambition which

make him an authority for all times, and show him to be in the

political what Shakespeare was in the moral world. But his

writings, however as objects of study they may influence the

opinions or form the judgment of young men, would have no more

power than a piece of musty parchment to arrest the tide of

present violence, and superinduce reflection and calmness. A

speech of Tom Duncombe's would produce far greater effect than the

perusal of a discourse of Burke's. Wisdom never operates directly

on masses; it may work upon them through secondary and by indirect

means, but it cannot face the noise of actual contest, where

passion and not reason is always uppermost. Nobody but Burke could

have described so well the Dukes of Devonshire and Bedford of the

present day, who appear to have lost their senses, and to be ready

to peril all their great possessions to gratify the passions of

the moment. He says:--'But riches do not in all cases secure even

an inert and passive resistance; there are always in that

description men whose fortunes, when their minds are once vitiated

by passion or evil principle, are by no means a security from

their actually taking their part against the public tranquillity.

We see to what low and despicable passion of all kinds many men in

that class are ready to sacrifice the patrimonial estates which

might be perpetuated in their families with splendour, and with

the fame of hereditary benefactors to mankind, from generation to

generation. Do we not see how lightly people treat their fortunes

when they are under the passion of gaming? The game of resentment

or ambition will be played by many of the great and rich as

desperately and with as much blindness to the consequences as any

other game. Passion blinds them to the consequences as far as they

concern themselves, and as to the consequences with regard to

others, they are no part of their consideration.'

[Page Head: LORD PALMERSTON AS A MAN OF BUSINESS.]

The other night I met some clerks in the Foreign Office to whom

the very name of Palmerston is hateful, but I was surprised to

hear them (Mellish particularly, who can judge both from capacity

and opportunity), give ample testimony to his abilities. They

said that he wrote admirably, and could express himself perfectly

in French, very sufficiently in Italian, and understood German;

that his diligence and attention were unwearied--he read

everything and wrote an immense quantity; that the foreign

Ministers (who detest him) did him justice as an excellent man of

business. His great fault is want of punctuality, and never

caring for an engagement if it did not suit him, keeping

everybody waiting for hours on his pleasure or caprice. This

testimony is beyond suspicion, and it is confirmed by the

opinions of his colleagues; but it is certain that he cut a very

poor figure in Parliament all the time he was in office before.

At the Travellers' yesterday I fell in with Buelow, who is just

come back from Berlin to resume his mission. He told me that he

was on such terms with Palmerston that it was impossible for him

to stay here, and that for some time past he had given up

communicating with him except upon the most indispensable matters

and in the most formal way. He then gave me an account of the

reception of the news of the change of our Government at Berlin,

where the Emperor of Russia happened to be at the time. The

Empress had come there on a visit to her father, and the Emperor

(who is supposed to have preserved his conjugal fidelity

immaculate) had rushed from Moscow without any notice to see her,

and was still there when news of this great event arrived. There

is something very characteristic in the first impression which the

intelligence produced, at once manifesting the secret wishes of

the party and their ignorance and apparent incapacity of

comprehending the nature of our Constitution, and the limited

extent of the power of the King of England. The Emperor

immediately conceived that the whole system of the late Government

would be reversed at home and abroad, that Leopold would be driven

from Belgium, the Dutch dominion restored, and the Quadruple

Alliance dissolved. Buelow, who has been in England long enough to

know better the real state of things, endeavoured to undeceive

him, and succeeded, though not without great difficulty; but when

he proceeded to explain to him that the new Government would very

likely not be able to keep their places, and that at any rate they

would be compelled to conduct the Government upon the principle of

Reform which the late Government had established, the Emperor

could not by any means comprehend it, nor why or how there could

be any difficulty in keeping their places if the King was resolved

to support them, and had appointed them at his own pleasure. It

would seem as if they had never read the last two or three years

of our history, or, having read it, as if the habits of unbounded

power in which they are born, educated, and expect to die, had

rendered their understandings utterly impervious to the apparent

paradox of a crowned head destitute of power to choose his own

Ministers. The Duke of Cumberland, who was likewise there, began

by talking the same nonsense, and was full of the destruction of

the Reform Bill; but Billy Holmes, who, whatever else he may be,

is a very sharp fellow, succeeded in muzzling him. This account

which Buelow gave me is, however, more than amusing; it is

instructive, because it shows which way the real wishes of the

absolute sovereigns point, and makes it highly probable that they

look upon the present settlement of Europe as one only _ad

interim_, and to be remodelled whenever an opportunity shall

present itself. They are satisfied at present with damming and

dyking out the waters of Liberalism, but they hope to drain the

lands in which they are collected, and to place themselves for

ever out of the danger of an inundation. The war of opinions is in

fact declared; it may languish, there may be truces, but there

will be no peace in our time.

February 19th, 1835 {p.212}

[Page Head: ELECTION OF SPEAKER ABERCROMBY.]

The important day is arrived, and it dawns in sunshine and south

wind. In a few hours the question of the Speakership will be

decided, and there will at least be the gain (wherever the loss

may fall) of getting rid of a subject which has become intolerably

tiresome. For the last three weeks every newspaper has been

literally filled with the controversy, every club engaged in

betting on the event; in every room, at the corner of every

street, nobody talked of anything else. It was the first enquiry

of every man you met, 'Well, what do you hear to-day? they say

Sutton will win by 30.' The next man (a Whig) would say, 'It is

safe; Abercromby will have 317 votes sure'--each party unboundedly

confident, and both securing a retreat by declaring that defeat

will not signify. Half the Opposition think it a false move to try

it, and the more sober of the Government are conscious that a

defeat will be very injurious.

We had a Council yesterday, and a levee more than usually

brilliant; all the new Ministers and all the old, the whole Corps

Diplomatique, with a host of others, mixed up in the first

_entree_ room, and all very civil and good-humoured. The King

received the ex-Ministers very graciously, and talked to them

all, at least to all I saw pass by. Brougham alone was absent,

and Lord Spencer, who was hardly to be considered as one of them,

and is not in town, though, by-the-bye, I think I am wrong in

this, because there were others whom I did not see--Duncannon,

Spring Rice, and Hobhouse.

February 20th, 1835 {p.213}

The great battle is over and the Government defeated, 316 to 306.

Such a division never was known before in the House of Commons,

and the accuracy of the calculations is really surprising.

Mulgrave told me three days ago they had 317 people, which with

the Teller makes the exact number. Holmes went over the other

list, and made it 307--also correct. In the House so justly had

they reckoned, that when the numbers first counted (306) were

told to Duncannon in the lobby he said, 'Then we shall win by

10.' Burdett and Cobbett went away, which with Tellers makes a

total of 626 members in the House. All the Irish members voted

but 4, all the Scotch but 3, all the English but 25. The Irish

and Scotch, in fact, made the majority.

The elation on one side and the depression on the other were

naturally considerable, and there was not time last night to

adjust scattered thoughts. Much money was won and lost; everybody

betted. I won L55, for on the whole I thought (though quite a

toss-up) that the chances were rather in favour of Abercromby. I

had a better opinion of the cleverness of the managers on his

side, and their amazing confidence staggered me, so that after at

first believing Sutton to be sure, I finished by leaning the

other way. The debate seems to have been dull--Sutton was dull,

Peel was dull; Stanley clever, strong against the Opposition, but

thought to have been indiscreet. A Tory told me it was a second

edition of the thimblerig speech, which, if so, will not do him

good. He carried apparently very few people with him, but made

one convert--Angerstein--who changed his vote because Stanley

made out that Abercromby was for the Ballot. This seems an

excellent reason why he should be opposed as a Minister or a

candidate, but none why he should not sit in the chair of the

House. Lord John Russell is said to have spoken remarkably well,

which is important to them as a party, being his first appearance

as their leader. Peel and the Duke dined at Lord Salisbury's, and

all the Tories were invited there in the evening, with the

intention probably of celebrating their anticipated victory; and,

if so, their merry meeting must have been changed to dismal

alarms, for there is no denying or concealing that it is a very

serious disaster. The moral effect of beginning with a defeat is

bad; it discourages the wavering and timid, who might have felt

half disposed to support the Government and the constitution. The

trial of strength leads to very uncomfortable reflections, for

every man of these 317 is prepared to go all lengths; and though

there are probably none among the majority who will support

Government, there are some among the minority who will oppose

them--Dudley Stuart, Angerstein, and Burdett, who went away.

[Page Head: PARTIES BALANCED.]

The majority of the world naturally look at this event with the

eye of party, and as a triumph one way and a mortification the

other; but I, who have no party prejudices and predilections, and

care nothing who is in the chair, and not much who is in office,

provided 'the thing,' as Cobbett calls it, is kept going, look at

this division with sorrow and alarm, as affording undoubted

evidence that no prospect appears of the possibility of this or

any other Government being able to accomplish the purposes for

which a Government is intended. We seem to be arrived at what is

vulgarly termed a dead lock. Nothing can be more clear than that

the present Ministers are in a minority, and that all the other

parties in the House united can beat them when they will. It is

equally clear that they can beat any section of their opponents

whenever these are disunited. The political attraction which

binds together the mass cannot last long, and there are too many

elements of repulsion in _esse_ or in _posse_ not to insure the

speedy disjunction of the several atoms; but in the meantime, if

they can be held together, what is to happen? Peel will take a

beating or two, but he _may_ be so beaten as to be compelled to

resign or again dissolve. Suppose he dissolves. The Tories think

the reaction is on the increase, and that the Conservative

interest would gain largely by another dissolution; still there

is scarcely a hope of their gaining enough to enable Peel to

carry on the Government with such constant and dependible

majorities as can alone render it efficacious and secure. On the

other hand, if Peel resigns, the Opposition, should they return

to power, must dissolve; for what can they do against 300 Tories?

and what Ministry can by possibility be formed that can have a

certain majority _of its own_ out of the heterogeneous mixture of

Whigs, Radicals, Repealers, and men of every shade and gradation

of opinion? Their situation, notwithstanding their victory, seems

worse than that of their antagonists with reference to their

power as a party; and if they do storm Downing Street and St.

James's, and go again to the country, as far as appearances go,

what chance have they of materially bettering their condition,

and getting another House of Commons more manageable and better

adapted to their purpose than this? This victory, therefore, will

not enable the old Government to triumph over the new, or

materially affect the positions of the two parties, and, as

somebody said last night, they will be very much puzzled what to

do with their majority now they have got it.

The first impression of great events is generally one of alarm,

which upon this occasion subsequent reflection has diminished as

far as relates to the _immediate_ peril of the present Government.

Speculation already began last night as to the Address, on which

some pretend no amendment will be moved, others that one will,

which as certainly will be carried. No question can, however, be

more embarrassing to the Whig leaders, for they would be disposed

in prudence to abstain from any very violent measure, but will

find great difficulty in dealing with their associates. If they

resolve upon pushing their victory and amending the Address, they

run the risk of exciting terror by their violence; if they avoid

this, probably some of the Radicals will do it, and then they must

support Government on the Address against a Radical section of the

House, or join with the Radicals in one of two ways, either by

supporting their amendment or persuading them to withdraw it; in

either case drawing closer the bonds of that connexion which they

are ashamed and afraid to avow, and which will, I strongly incline

to believe, be in the end fatal to the Whig party. The only thing

that can truly be predicted is, that all is confusion, uncertainty,

embarrassment, a state of things full of difficulty and peril, but

not _totally_ without hope.

February 21st, 1835 {p.216}

The Government were grievously annoyed at the event of Thursday,

and the Duke rejected all the commonplaces of consolation, 'that

it would turn out a good thing.' At Lord Salisbury's dinner (to

which Peel did not go) they were all very dejected, and the Duke

said at once it was as bad as could be; and the thing appeared

the worse because they had been led to feel so very secure. He

desired his private secretary to have everything ready to quit

the Foreign Office at a moment's notice. However, at dinner

yesterday at Peel's (a great dinner to all the Ambassadors and

twenty-six people) he said to me, 'It is very bad, but I consider

the country _on its legs again_.' 'Do you?' I said, 'I am glad

you think so.' 'Oh, yes, I think that, however this may end; I

think the country is on its legs again.'

The Whigs are resolved to push their victory with all their

energies, and they appear to have no doubt of ousting the

Government, and as they are determined to proceed by any and

every means in their career, and the others are equally resolved

to fight the battle while any means of resistance remain, the

strife must be deadly, and such as to extinguish any hope of a

coalition between moderate men of both sides for the simple

reason that moderation has ascended to Heaven, and such men will

no longer be found.

February 23rd, 1835 {p.216}

[Page Head: FIERCE OPPOSITION TO GOVERNMENT.]

The Opposition mean to move an amendment to the Address, which

they expect to carry by a larger majority than the last. Their

tactics are completely arranged, and their understanding with

O'Connell and all the Radicals so good that they think there is

no danger of any indiscreet ebullition in any quarter. Discarding

every prospective consideration, and prepared to encounter all

consequences, they concentrate all their energies upon the single

object of turning out the Government, in which they have no doubt

of succeeding. It is the first time (as far as I know) that any

great party ever proceeded upon, and avowed, such a principle as

that which binds these people together and puts them in action;

namely, to destroy the King's Ministry, without any reference to

the measures that Ministry may propose, and without waiting to

see how they may intend to carry on the Government. Not only do

they throw out of their consideration the conduct of the

Administration, but they are resolved to accomplish its

destruction, without being prepared to substitute any stronger

Government in its room, and with a perfect knowledge that its

dissolution must necessarily produce a state of extraordinary

embarrassment, from which they do not pretend to have the power

of extricating the country. All that they ever condescend to say,

in answer to any such remonstrances, is this: 'The King exercised

his prerogative in a most extraordinary and unjustifiable manner.

We have the same right to reject his Government, that he had to

turn out ours; if there is embarrassment, it is none of our

creating, the King and the Tories must be responsible for it. We

care not what are the principles now avowed by them. If they are

not Reformers, they cannot govern this country, and are not to be

tolerated at the head of affairs. If they are, it is not to be

endured that they should usurp our places, and then in defiance

of all their principles, and in opposition to all their previous

conduct, carry into effect the measures which we should, with

perfect consistency, have brought forward. We will listen

therefore to nothing. Out they shall go, and till we have got

them out, we will never rest, nor desist from our attacks.' 'Quid

sit futurum cras, fuge quaerere,' such is the manner of their

reasoning. Their intention seems to be to avoid doing anything

very desperate, but to keep beating the Government, constantly

exhibiting their own power and the helpless state of their

adversaries to the world. Some of them affect to deny their union

with O'Connell, but they say whatever suits their present

purpose. In the case of Manners Sutton, they took care to have

the charges against him disseminated through the country, and did

their best to have them believed. The constituencies believed

them, and instructed their representatives accordingly; and when,

by these means, they had secured a majority, they came down at

the last moment to the House of Commons and owned that there was

not one word of truth in the allegations against him. John

Russell had written a letter (perhaps more than one) in which he

urged opposition to Sutton, on the ground of his having advised

the dissolution of the last Parliament. Goulburn got possession

of this letter, which was handed to him during the debate, he

does not know by whom. (Goulburn told me this himself.) He gave

it to Peel while he was speaking, or just before. Peel asked John

Russell if he had ever said so, and John Russell denied it. Peel

did not produce the letter as he might have done, but the story

was told in the 'Times' the next day. So in the case of the

Bishop of Exeter, and Lord John's controversy with him. He told

an untruth, undoubtedly without knowing it, but he might have

known it; the lie did its business--

In public spoke, it fell with greater force,

And, heard by hundreds, was believed, of course;

and though he afterwards made a very handsome apology, half the

people who were influenced by the original statement never heard

of the contradiction, or cared for it, if they did; and to show

the candour of the Liberal press, the 'Morning Chronicle,' and

other papers of that persuasion, which trumpeted forth the

original lie, never inserted the subsequent correspondence, and

Lord John's contradiction of his own statement. I like him so

much personally, that I am sorry for all this. To return to the

party, they are boiling with indignation at the idea of another

dissolution, and talk of such advice to the King as affording

good ground for impeachment, though till they have settled the

House of Lords, and had their wicked will of it, the Ministers

would be pretty safe before that tribunal for such an act. It is

the general opinion that Peel will dissolve, and go once more to

the country if he can, but this must depend upon the sort of

opposition they offer, and the majorities they can bring into the

field. Adolphus FitzClarence told me that he never saw the King

so determined as he is to stand by this Government to the last,

and I do not think any of these men will prove deficient in

courage.

February 24th, 1835 {p.219}

[Page Head: UNION WITH O'CONNELL.]

The Opposition expect a majority of from thirty to forty on the

amendment. The union with O'Connell is complete, however long it

may last, and he has agreed to give up Repeal, and they are to

find some lucrative place for him when they get in again. What he

wants is to be a Master of the Rolls in Ireland; the rent fails,

and money he must have. It is a wretched thing that there is no

buying that man _now_ without disgrace; well would it have been

to have made the purchase long ago; and it will not be the least

curious part of his curious life if this bargain takes place, and

he settles down into the regular discharge of his professional

duties, and _bona fide_ abandons agitation. There was great

curiosity last night to know whether the Speaker dined with Peel.

It is usual for him to dine with the leader of the House of

Commons on these occasions, and hear the speech read. Sutton

always dined with Althorp, but then Althorp put him in the chair.

Abercromby, however, very properly told Peel the difficulty he

felt, and that he thought he should only embarrass the company,

and Peel acquiesced in his excuse.

February 25th, 1835 {p.219}

The King went down to Parliament in the midst of a vast crowd,

and was neither well nor ill received; nobody takes his hat off,

but there was some slight cheering. The speech disappointed me,

it was rather bald, and so thought some of the moderate men. In

the morning there was a meeting at the King's Head, Palace Yard,

to which moderate members of Parliament were invited by an

anonymous circular. Thirty-three were present, Sir Oswald Mosley

in the chair. Graham came to it, and said Lord Stanley would have

come also, but that he had invited a few of his friends to

assemble at his house, with an object similar to that which had

brought the present meeting[2] together and that if it were

agreeable to any of these gentlemen to meet his friends that

afternoon he should be glad to see them. They all went, and there

were present forty-five or fifty, of whom eight had voted for

Abercromby. He made them a speech, stating that it was evident

the Government must fall if they were to be repeatedly defeated,

and his view of the necessity of obstructing violent measures

directed against them was something to this effect. The result

was an agreement to meet again this day, and last night a few

more names were added to their list. This may, therefore, be

considered the Stanley party, and the best thing that can happen

will be that this party should grow numerous. Many men do not

like the composition of the Government, and yet wish to support

it, without being identified with it, as the majority of those

who attend the meetings are disposed to support Peel. Stanley

securing them as his adherents, and placing himself at their

head, must in fact subscribe to their opinions and disposition;

and as men are more inclined to join a numerous than a scanty

sect, fresh adherents may repair to that standard. Eventually he

will join the Government, and the best chance of weathering the

storm will be through this moderate Liberal party.

[2] [This meeting (which will probably have important

results, as it was the foundation of that which met

afterwards at Stanley's, and the formation of this

party will turn the balance on the Conservative side)

originated in the most insignificant causes. Sir Oswald

Mosley, an ordinary person, and a Mr. Young, talking

the thing over, suggested to one another to try and get

together moderate men, and they penned and sent out a

parcel of notes addressed to those who they thought

came under that description, bearing no signature, and

giving no indication of the quarter from which they

emanated. When the thirty-three people who came were

assembled, they found themselves for the most part

strangers to each other, and each asking who such and

such an one was. When Graham invited any who chose to

go to Lord Stanley's, Mosley rather wanted to decline,

to go on with his own meeting, and play an important

part, but nobody would hear of this, so he was obliged

to go with the rest to Stanley's house.]

[Page Head: DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS.]

The debate was opened by Sandon in a speech feebly delivered, but

containing good matter. Morpeth made a good speech, moving the

amendment. The debate was very dull indeed, Dr. Bowring a total

failure. It was expected the House would adjourn, if not divide,

and the Speaker put the question, when Peel got up. It was

curious to see the lulling of the uproar, and the shuffling and

scrambling into seats, till all was quiet and the whole coast

clear. He spoke very ably for nearly two hours and a half, his

speech not containing much oratory, but in a tone at once lofty

and firm, yet discreet, calculated to inspire confidence and to

make an impression on all who are impressible. There is no use in

entering into details of speeches which are now reported with

such perfect fidelity. This may not be without its effect on

Stanley's meeting to-day, and his speech will be listened to with

intense anxiety to-night. The Opposition (as Duncannon told me)

expected a majority of between thirty and forty, so that if it is

considerably less than that, it will be tantamount to a defeat.

February 26th, 1835 {p.221}

Stanley spoke last night, attacking both sides, not violently,

but announcing his intention to vote against the amendment. The

Government were annoyed at his speech, especially at his

expressing some sort of disapprobation of the Duke of Wellington,

which he would have done well to omit, for many reasons. Lord

John Russell, by universal admission even of his enemies, made an

excellent speech. I did not hear either him or Stanley. John has

surpassed all expectations hitherto, as leader, which is matter

of great exultation to his party, but the tide is already

beginning to turn, and there are evident symptoms of weakness in

the great unwieldy heterogeneous body he is at the head of.

Tavistock came to me yesterday morning, and told me his brother

had sent for him, 'finding himself in difficulties.' He did not

particularise them, but said that naturally, in a situation of

such novelty, he found considerable difficulties to contend with.

He owned that the meeting at Lichfield House, which O'Connell had

attended by invitation, had alarmed and disgusted many of the old

Whigs, and it was settled there should be no more such meetings.

Then there has been some little correspondence between Ward and

Lord John about the Irish Church question, the former wishing to

manage the matter, which he brought forward last year, and he

wrote to John about it, who replied rather shortly, that he

himself intended to submit a motion on the subject. This is a

trifle, but trifles like these contribute to form an aggregate of

importance, and the moment there is any beginning of disunion or

weakness in such a party, a very short time will make it fall to

pieces.

[Page Head: POSITION OF LORD STANLEY.]

Lord Stanley assembled his followers again yesterday to the

number of about fifty; other adhesions, and half-adhesions,

occurred in the course of the evening, and the result is an

expectation that the boasted majority of thirty or forty will

dwindle down to four or five, or perhaps be no majority at all.

The erection of this standard will therefore, in all probability,

save the Government, and defeat the factious designs of the great

Whig and Radical coalition; but I distrust Stanley himself, and

see the great chance there is of his vanity and selfish ambition

producing other difficulties, the pressure of which, though he

may not feel it now, will some time hence become heavy to him.

His object at present is to gather to himself the largest party

he can; but though he may lead them, he can only lead them the

way they are minded to go, and the design of his friends is to

show themselves Conservatives without being Tories, to save this

Government, not from love to it, but from fear of its opponents

and of the alternative. He certainly may have the appearance of

being the arbiter of all great questions, and actually be so to a

certain degree, but as his ultimate object must be his return to

office, he can only hope to return (at least with any prospects

of success) with Peel and the Tories. It is, therefore, egregious

folly in him, by an affectation of neutrality and independence,

to shock and disgust that great body, which must ever be the

strength of a Conservative Government, by twitting the Duke of

Wellington and attacking with sarcasms or reproaches certain

measures or omissions, or particular members of Government, and

especially the Duke himself. The Duke is, after all, the idol of

the Tories, and they will not endure that a youth like Stanley

shall avail himself of his accidental advantages to treat their

great man with levity and disrespect; and all this he has not

coolness, sagacity, and temper enough to see, nor to discern that

his most becoming and dignified course would be to conduct

himself with a seriousness and gravity suitable to the importance

of the crisis and of the part he aspires to play and the

magnitude of the interests which are at stake. If he believes in

his conscience that the Opposition are animated with a spirit of

faction, and that their triumph would be the forerunner of

revolution or confusion, he should take his stand on a great

principle, and support the Government in such a manner as might

best enable it to confound the schemes of its antagonists; but

all this time he is dreading to be called a Tory, and he does not

certainly give up the hope and notion of reuniting himself with

the moderate section of his late colleagues. He endeavours to

keep up an amicable intercourse with them, and to make them

believe that he has no intention of connecting himself more

closely with this Government. Such ambiguous conduct, and his

occasional asperities and incivilities, have begun already to

disgust and alienate the Tories; and though they have too much

need of him now not to be obliged to restrain the expression of

their feelings, the time may come when he will have need of them,

and he will then find the inconvenient consequences of his

present behaviour.

February 27th, 1835 {p.223}

They divided at half-past one this morning, 309 to 302. I went

over the list before dinner, and made out a majority of six

(correct all but one). Gisborne, Howick, and Graham spoke

tolerably, O'Connell very good for the first ten minutes, and

very bad all the rest. I was not there. Certainly Stanley's

conduct is queer. Notwithstanding the sharp things he said

against Government in his speech on Wednesday, and various little

marks of scorn he throws out here and there, he said to Francis

Egerton on Tuesday, after all the Opposition men had been

speaking, 'Why does not Peel get up, or at least put up one of

the Government, to put an end to all this balderdash?' Francis

went and told Peel, who was very much out of sorts (at the state

of the debate I suppose), and asked rather angrily for Sir G.

Clerk. Francis went to look for Clerk, and when he returned Peel

was on his legs. This he told me yesterday morning.

March 5th, 1835 {p.224}

Met Mulgrave at dinner at Seaford's, and he still talks with

confidence of turning the Government out; that five or six of

Stanley's tail have whisked round again to the Whigs; that they

can beat the Government on every question by greater majorities

than on the two they have already tried, which were the worst for

them, and that any other Government (of their party) would get

through the business of the session.

March 11th, 1835 {p.224}

The repeal of the malt tax was defeated by a majority of 158,

much more than was necessary, and it is thought that Government

would have done wisely, when they found they were sure of not

being beaten, to allow their friends to redeem their pledges (or

as many of them as stood deeply committed), for it will be found

that several of them will suffer greatly from this vote in their

counties. Peel (as usual) made an admirable speech; he continues

to distinguish himself by a marked superiority, both in oratory

and management, which cannot fail to produce a great effect both

in the House of Commons and the country. There is nobody who

approaches him, and every day he displays more and more his

capacity for government and undoubted fitness for the situation

he is in. He cannot help being a great man, because he lives in

an age of pigmies; and he will be as great as great talents

without a great mind can make anybody. Even some of the violent

Radicals say that if Peel's associates could be disposed of, they

would not object to him.

March 13th, 1835 {p.224}

There was a meeting of the Opposition at Lichfield House

yesterday, to consider what they should do about Hume's motion to

grant the supplies for three months, and the result was that the

design should be abandoned. Thus they have shown their teeth

without daring to bite. Many of their people would not have gone

with them, and if this grand project failed _now_ thus early in

the session, still less chance will it have at a later period.

Peel's skill and great superiority, and the disunion and

uncertainty of the vast unwieldy body opposed to him, will carry

him through.

March 14th, 1835 {p.225}

[Page Head: APPOINTMENT OF LORD LONDONDERRY.]

Last night was a terribly damaging night to the Government, and

fully justifies all that I, in common with almost everybody else,

thought of that miserable appointment of Londonderry.[3] Shiel

brought it forward, and a storm burst from every side. Stanley

made a strong speech against it, and Mahon totally broke down.

Peel spoke cleverly, as usual, but fighting under difficulties,

and dodging about, and shifting his ground with every mark of

weakness. The result is that Londonderry cannot go, and must

either resign or his nomination be cancelled. This is miserable

weakness on the part of the Government, and an awkward position to

be placed in. It is very questionable if the Duke of Wellington

will not resign upon it, which would make another great

embarrassment, for there is nobody to fill his place. It serves

the Government right, and the Duke especially, for having built up

such a wall to run their heads against. They knew the loathing

people had for the man, how odious and ridiculous he had made

himself, how obnoxious and indefensible the appointment would be,

and yet, though there was no reason or occasion for it, and their

circumstances were so difficult that the utmost caution and

prudence were requisite in all their subordinate and collateral

proceedings, as well as in the great and essential ones, they had

the blind and obstinate folly to make this appointment. It is not

_contempt_ of public opinion in the Duke, but it is that ignorance

or indifference, or disregard of it, which has been the besetting

sin of his political life, and has so largely affected his

political sayings and doings. Peel ought to have known better, and

have taken a more correct view of his position, and the effect

such an appointment would have on it. It is difficult to say what

consequences may flow from this affair. The Government can stand

no shocks and buffets; if they go on, it can only be by the most

dexterous management, and by obtaining constant advantages in the

petty and daily warfare of Parliament, and thus gathering

confidence by degrees, that they can accomplish it. It would be

too mortifying if such a man should be the cause of the downfall

of the Government and of all the evils that would result

therefrom. Knatchbull, who was dragged into the discussion by Peel

(in order to make a diversion), defended himself and spoke

remarkably well. He is the only Cabinet Minister who has shown

anything like a faculty to support Peel. It was rather amusing to

see the attempt of Peel to take the dogs off the scent of

Londonderry and throw them on that of Knatchbull; but they were

soon whipped off, and put again upon the right track. There was

one good hit. A Sir George Strickland, attacking Knatchbull, said,

'Talk of the Right Honourable Baronet as a Reformer, indeed, when

_I remember_ his coming down night after night during the Reform

Bill, and opposing every part and particle of it, clause after

clause,' when Knatchbull took his hat off and said, 'I was not a

member of that Parliament.'

[3] [The Marquis of Londonderry had been appointed

Ambassador to St. Petersburg.]

March 15th, 1835 {p.226}

The Londonderry debate has made a great sensation, and is a

source of prodigious triumph and exultation to the Opposition. In

the morning I met Lady Peel, who was full of compassion for

Londonderry, and said, 'He had behaved very nobly about it.'

Nobody doubts that he cannot go, whether he resigns voluntarily

or not; but, end how it may, it is a disastrous occurrence. If

Government should persist in the appointment, they would be

beaten by a great majority, and the House of Commons would vote

him out; if it is given up, it is a monstrous concession to the

violence and power of the House of Commons, for however

objectionable the appointment may have been, it is not so

outrageous as to call for the interference of Parliament with the

King's undoubted prerogative, and on the whole the principle of

such interference may be considered more inconvenient than

submitting to the appointment itself. It will probably lead

before long to other encroachments upon the Executive power, and

we shall soon see the House of Commons interfering about

everything.

[Page Head: THE DUKE ON LORD LONDONDERRY.]

In the evening I met the Duke of Wellington at Lady Howe's, who

talked about the affair, and said that he was not particularly

partial to the man, nor ever had been; but that he was very fit

for that post, was an excellent Ambassador, procured more

information and obtained more insight into the affairs of a

foreign Court than anybody, and that he was the best relater of

what passed at a conference, and wrote the best account of a

conversation, of any man he knew. I said this might be all true,

but that though _he_ knew it, the generality of people did not,

and the public could only judge of him by what they heard or read

of his speeches, and what was related of his conduct on former

occasions; that on that account he was very obnoxious, and that

his violent and intemperate attacks upon the foreign policy of

the late Government, the sentiments he had displayed generally,

had raised a great prejudice against him, and I had therefore

been sure from the moment I heard of the appointment that it

would be severely attacked, and regretted exceedingly for that

reason that it had ever been made. I had told Lady Peel the same

thing, for it is difficult to resist telling them the real truth;

and I know not why it should not be told them.

Last night I met Lord Howick, who is bitter enough against the

Ministers, and expressed his earnest desire that they might be

well dragged through the mire, but not be turned out. I asked,

'Why, if he wished they should stay in, he desired that they

should be discredited?' and he replied, 'That it would be very

difficult _at present_ to replace them, but that he saw the

prospective means, and he would have them go on till the time was

ripe for change, but that they should be made every day more

odious.' These means, I doubt not, are the reconciliation of

Stanley with the Whigs, which is clearly contemplated by both one

and the other. Hobhouse's speech the other night was very civil

to Stanley, no doubt with that view, and much personal intimacy

is affected between him and the Whig leaders. Then much light is

thrown upon it in my mind by the account I have just heard from

Charlton (who enlisted under the Stanley banner) of the tone and

_animus_ displayed at the last meeting at Stanley's. There

Stanley was pressed by Mr. Young to declare in strong terms his

want of confidence in the Government; and Patrick Stewart said

that if Hume's motion, for limiting the supplies to three months,

was placed in the hands of Lord John Russell, he thought he must

vote for it. Stanley opposed this suggestion, and declared his

disapprobation (let who would bring it on) of so strong a measure

as stopping the supplies, and he said he thought the want of

confidence might be sufficiently evinced without having recourse

to any murderous measures, anything absolutely destructive of the

Government. The general tone and disposition of the meeting was

very inimical to the present Ministry, and Charlton was himself

so little satisfied with what passed, and especially with

Stanley's apparent bias and feeling, that he wrote to him to say

that he had joined his party on the express notion that he was

prepared to give the Government a fair trial, and to ask whether

he did not understand him correctly in attributing to him still

such an intention. He replied very courteously, and tolerably

satisfactorily, but it certainly seems probable that he is more

disposed to reunite with his old friends than to form any

connection with these men, though what is uppermost in his mind

is to raise his own consequence and authority, and make the best

bargain he eventually can. Charlton says that he has since tried

to engage him in conversation upon the subject of the democratic

tendency of the times, but that he has no mind to discuss the

subject. Charlton is such a violent, foolish, dangerous fellow,

that it is no wonder if Stanley kept aloof from him, and was not

disposed to be more than merely civil to him.

March 17th, 1835 {p.228}

[Page Head: LORD LONDONDERRY'S DEFENCE.]

Londonderry made a good speech in the House of Lords last night,

gentlemanlike and temperate. He got a good deal of empty praise in

both Houses in lieu of the solid pudding he is obliged to give up.

He said 'that he had had no communication with the Government, nor

had sought any advice, neither had any been tendered to him; that

he had after due deliberation determined on the course he should

pursue.' All this is untrue; he went to Peel on Saturday morning,

and told him he was ready to do what he pleased; but Peel said he

could give him no opinion. He then consulted various people, the

Dukes of Cumberland and Buckingham _inter alios_, who advised him

not to resign. It appeared to be his object to obtain opinions to

that effect, and up to late yesterday afternoon nobody knew what

he meant to do; so much so, that the Duke left the Foreign Office

without being apprised of his intentions, and desired if any

letter came from him that it might be sent after him to the House

of Lords. He received the letter on the stairs, which he read and

instantly sent to Peel. It has altogether been a miserable affair,

and it is certainly true what John Russell said, that in 'the

experiment they are now making, that which the Right Honourable

Baronet called a fair trial, they were running considerable hazard

that the most useful prerogatives of the Crown would lose that

dignity and respect in which they had formerly been held.' It is

clearly true that this most dangerous precedent of interference

has occurred because the Government has not strength to prevent

it, and because we have the anomaly of a Government beating up

against a hostile majority. The man was utterly unfit, and ought

never to have been appointed, but the case against him (such as it

appears in their hands) is quite insufficient to warrant the

interference of Parliament.

I take it that the effect abroad will be prodigious, for though

Londonderry resigns of his own accord, and Peel says he would

have stood by him if he had not, the simple case is (and such

will be the appearance of it all over Europe) that the King

appointed Londonderry Ambassador to Russia, and the House of

Commons cancelled the appointment.

Everything meanwhile continues in a state of uncertainty. The

Opposition is not united; the Stanley party, with their leader,

observe a suspicious and suspected neutrality, but the Government

is at their mercy whenever they join the Opposition, or, indeed,

if they keep aloof. Such a state of things cannot go on very long,

and the fate of the Government must be settled one way or the

other. Every day produces fresh indications of Peel's superiority,

and his capacity for the lead in the House of Commons, but he does

not appear to have gained much in those points where he was most

deficient--cordiality and communicativeness. Francis Egerton came

to me to-day and complained that on the Londonderry debate,

finding that nobody spoke on the Treasury Bench, he went and sat

by Peel and offered to speak, but could get no answer from him;

and Ashley was furious because when Hume asked for some

information on some point of Navy estimates, on which he (Ashley)

had taken pains to prepare himself, Peel would not let him give

it, but took it out of his hands. All this is very impolitic, and

shows that whatever else he has gained by experience, he has not

gained the art of making himself popular with his own adherents in

the way that Castlereagh and Canning used to be; and therefore,

however he may be looked up to as a Minister, he will never be

followed with the same personal devotion that they commanded.

March 20th, 1835 {p.230}

I have been laid up with the gout all this week, and could not go

out to see and hear what is going on. On Tuesday night Peel

brought in the Dissenters' Marriage Bill, and his plan gave

almost general satisfaction except to those whom nothing can

satisfy. The Opposition papers gave it a sort of cold and sulky

approbation, evincing how little the loudest advocates for

reforms of this nature really care about them. The 'Morning

Chronicle' seemed to regret that Peel's Bill should give

satisfaction more than it rejoiced that the Dissenters were to

obtain it. Marriage is made a civil contract for the Dissenters,

and a slight civil form is substituted for the religious ceremony

of the Church of England. This relieves them from all their

grievance; but it is now said that they lie under a degradation,

because it is not also made a civil contract for everybody else,

and that the law ought to be changed universally. I think it

would be better if it was a civil contract, but nothing can be

more captious than such an objection, or more impertinent, and I

do not desire to see the law changed, because I believe the

majority of members of the Church of England are content that it

should remain as it is, and that their feelings or prejudices

would be shocked by the alteration.

The King is in great indignation at the proceedings in the House

of Commons about Londonderry. The Duke sent Londonderry's letter

of resignation to him, and his Majesty returned it with a letter

in which he expressed his approbation of Londonderry's conduct,

and added, that 'he was more than ever satisfied of the

correctness of his determination in November last, to refuse his

consent to his Government being led by Lord John Russell in the

House of Commons, since he had witnessed his conduct upon the

occasion, and the support he had given to the unconstitutional

attack that had been made upon this appointment.' He made no

allusion to Stanley, whose conduct must have galled him still

more.

[Page Head: SIR EDWARD AND LADY SUGDEN.]

Sir E. Sugden has resigned the Chancellorship of Ireland because

his wife is not received at Court. He might have ascertained very

easily beforehand what would happen, or have contrived to keep her

away from Dublin. It was understood when he took the Great Seal

that he declined being made a peer, on account of the illegitimacy

of his eldest son. Half the world had never heard of Lady Sugden,

or knew anything of her history; and as she is an excellent woman,

charitable and kind-hearted, I fancy she has moved without

obstruction in his natural circle of society. He went to Ireland

before any Lord-Lieutenant was named, and Lady Sugden was received

as a matter of course. When Lady Haddington was apprised of her

origin and history she foresaw the difficulty, and asked the Queen

what she was to do. Her Majesty told her to do what she pleased,

but that certainly she could not be received at Court here. The

Lady-Lieutenant therefore was compelled to decline receiving her,

for all Ireland would have been affronted had she received at the

Castle a lady not presentable at St. James's. Sugden was very

angry, and his indignation arose principally, it would seem, from

Lady Canterbury's having been received at Court, which he

considers (with some reason) as a case equally flagrant. Her

reception was a matter of bargain, I forget at this moment on what

occasion, and certainly a strong measure. The talk is that James

Parke will go to Ireland, and Sugden return to the Bar, which will

be hard upon those who had shared his vast business, especially on

the silk gown men.

March 21st, 1835 {p.232}

Lord Grey is come to town; he is very strong against the

Radicals, and highly disgusted at so many of them having been

admitted to the Opposition meetings. He and Stanley met with

excessive cordiality. Sefton was there when Stanley called upon

him. The King received Lord Grey at the levee with such civility

and attention as to excite peculiar observation.

March 22nd, 1835 {p.232}

A few nights ago Brougham was speaking in the House of Lords

(upon Lord Radnor's motion about university oaths), and was

attacking, or rather beginning to attack, the Duke of Wellington

in that tone of insolent sarcasm which is so familiar to him,

when in the midst of his harangue the Duke from the opposite side

lifted up his finger, and said loud enough to be heard, 'Now take

care what you say next.' As if panic-struck, Brougham broke off,

and ran upon some other tack. The House is so narrow, that Lords

can almost whisper to each other across it, and the menacing

action and words of the Duke reached Brougham at once. This odd

anecdote rests upon much concurrent evidence. Alvanley told it to

De Ros, and Lord Salisbury said he was sitting close to the Duke,

and witnessed it all. The Chancellor afterwards confirmed it.

[Page Head: COURAGE OF SIR R. PEEL.]

On Friday night, on the debate upon Irish Tithes, Peel bowled

down his opponents, Howick, Rice, and Thomson, like so many

ninepins; for, besides his vigour and power in debate, his memory

is so tenacious and correct, that they never can make any

mistakes without his detecting them; and he is inconceivably

ready in all references to former debates and their incidents,

and the votes and speeches of individual members. It cannot be

denied that he is a great performer in his present part. Old Sir

Robert, who must have been a man of exceeding shrewdness,

predicted that his full energies would never be developed till he

was in the highest place, and had the sole direction of affairs;

and his brother Lawrence, who told this to Henry de Ros, said

that in early youth he evinced the same obstinate and unsocial

disposition, which has since been so remarkable a feature of his

character. I wish he was not hampered with the Irish Church

fetters, which he cannot throw off.

Peel wrote a letter to Hume, demanding an explanation of certain

offensive expressions he had made use of in the House of Commons,

and got an answer, which was sufficient, though not very civil.

It was rather unnecessary that he should take any notice of what

Hume said, but Peel is a man of very high and prompt courage, and

seems to have made a rule to himself never to suffer impertinence

from any quarter to pass unchecked. It is certainly of great

service to a public man, and it largely increases the estimation

in which he is held, to establish such a character. It is no

small detriment to Brougham that he is accounted an arrant

coward; and it is remarkable that Peel never was known to deal in

the insolence, and bullying, and offensive personalities in which

the other has so copiously indulged, both in Parliament and at

the Bar.

March 24th, 1835 {p.233}

A meeting at Lichfield's yesterday, when they resolved to reserve

themselves for the great battle on Monday next, in full

persuasion that Peel will resign after the division. Whether he

means it or not, I have no idea, but it is surprising to me that

they do not think it better to attack him on his Tithe Bill than

on the Appropriation clause; for I think he must go out if beaten

on the former, but need not if beaten on the latter. They are,

however, bent upon his expulsion; and Lichfield (who is more or

less in their secrets) told me they feel no difficulty as to

making another Government under Melbourne's auspices. There was a

great dinner of the Opposition at the Duke of Sussex's on Sunday,

to which Brougham was not invited. It will not be the least of

their difficulties how to deal with him. Sugden, after all, stays

in Ireland. The Bar were up in arms at his menaced return among

them, which would have had the effect of half ruining some of

those who took silk gowns upon his retirement. His absurdity

will, therefore, have had no other effect than that of revealing

his wife's misfortune to the whole world in a very noisy way.

Lord Canterbury gives up Canada on account of his wife's health,

and probably not liking to face the disagreeable things that

would have been said about himself and her. Lord Aberdeen has

offered it to Stratford Canning, who, though clever enough, is so

_difficile a vivre_, that nobody can be less calculated for

conciliatory objects; so that for a situation which required an

agent of strong understanding and good temper, they successively

selected a foolish man of good temper, and a clever man of bad.

March 26th, 1835 {p.234}

[Page Head: APPROACHING DEFEAT OF GOVERNMENT.]

On Tuesday night Government was beaten on a division about the

Chatham election; a thing of no consequence in itself, but the

whole affair was mismanaged. John Russell had said he should not

divide, but his people were not to be restrained. Peel would have

given way, but his whippers-in told him he was strong enough in

the House to carry it, which only shows how stupid they are. It is

now universally believed that he will resign next week, after the

division on John Russell's motion, upon which he is sure to be

beaten by twenty or thirty votes. I am inclined to believe that he

has made known his intentions to Stanley, for the latter

entertains no doubt on the subject. The Greyites are all alive,

and patting Lord Grey on the back all day long to incline him to

obey the summons they confidently expect him to receive from the

King. It is very obvious that Peel cannot go on; and I doubt much

if he could even were he to obtain a majority on Monday. His

physical strength would not suffice for the harassing warfare that

is waged against him, the whole brunt of which he bears alone.

This, however, is his own fault, for he will not let anybody else

take a part, whether from distrust of his colleagues, or his own

rage for being all in all. Then, from the relative constitution of

the two parties, he must be in continual danger of defeats upon

minor and collateral questions, or suddenly started points. His

party is in great part composed of the rich and fashionable, who

are constantly drawn away by one attraction or another, and whose

habitual haunts are the clubs and houses at the west end of the

town; and it is next to impossible to collect his scattered forces

at a moment's notice. The Opposition contains a dense body of

fellows who have no vocation out of the walls of the House of

Commons; who put up in the vicinity; either do not dine at all, or

get their meals at some adjoining chop-house, throng the benches

early, and never think of moving till everything is over;

constituting a steady, never-failing foundation, the slightest

addition to which will generally secure a majority in the present

state of the House. In old times the placemen and immediate

hangers-on of Government, who make it their business to attend in

order to carry the public business through, afforded a regular

certain majority for the Ministers of the day; but now this

household phalanx is outnumbered by these blackguards, the chief

of whom are O'Connell's Tail and the lower Radicals. All this

immensely increases Peel's embarrassment; and the tactics of his

opponents have been extremely able, considered with a view to

obstruct the march of Government. While the leaders have abstained

from any violent measure, and have always resolved at their

consultations not to stop the supplies or impede the public

service, their active partisans have taken good care to produce

all the same effects, by raising debate after debate upon every

description of personal question, and every miscellaneous matter

they could drag in, so as to prevent any progress being made in

the public business; and in this they have completely succeeded,

for never was there more noise and violence, and less business

done, than in this session.

In anticipation of Peel's resignation there are three parties all

animated with different hopes and desires--the Grey party, the

Melbourne, the Stanley. The first want Lord Grey back with all

the moderate Whigs, throwing over the Radicals; and leaving out

the 'Dilly' (as Stanley's party is derisively called); in fact,

Lord Grey would only come back to carry the Irish question, which

Stanley will be no party to. The second want Melbourne and all

his kit back again, to go on with all the strength that the

united force of Whigs and Radicals amounts to. The third,

expecting that Lord Grey will decline to return without Stanley,

desire that the Radical Whigs should attempt it, with (as they

think) the certainty of failing, and then, that the urgency of

the case may bring about a coalition between Lord Grey, Peel, and

Stanley. Such a coalition would be very desirable in many

respects, but I much doubt Peel's ever consenting to take office

_under_ Lord Grey (though with an equality of authority and

influence in the Government), and to lead a party from which all

his old friends, and those who look up to him with unbounded

devotion, must necessarily be excluded, and to give up all

pretensions to ascendency and domination in the Cabinet.

March 28th, 1835 {p.236}

[Page Head: FRESH REVERSES.]

It appears now very doubtful whether Peel will resign after a

defeat on Monday; and I am disposed to believe that it is not his

intention; indeed, I never could understand why he should. He has

over and over again declared that whenever the Opposition would

bring forward a direct motion against him, he should be prepared

to resign, but not till then. Still, I do not see how he can go

on, and am much inclined to think he ought not. Weak as he is, at

the mercy of this furious and reckless Opposition, Government

suffers in his hands; the Crown and all Executive authority

suffer. Every Government, to be useful and respectable, should

have the power of carrying its measures in its own way through

Parliament; but Peel cannot do this, and instead of quashing any

mischievous or untimely motion, he is compelled to submit to one

defeat after another upon matters which would never have been

stirred (or certainly not successfully) with the late Government,

or with any which possessed the confidence of the House of

Commons. It was expected that Hume would persist in his motion

for referring the Army estimates to a committee, and that the

Whigs would support him; but when it came to the point, at the

suggestion of John Russell and Stanley, he very sulkily withdrew

it; but the night before, Government was beaten on two divisions,

one about the Leicester election, upon which all the lawyers in

the House were unanimous. But these opinions had no effect upon

the Radical majority, and they voted an address to the Crown to

confer a charter upon the London University, Lord John Russell

supporting it, although this question had been argued before the

Privy Council, which had still to report upon it; and I believe

that the general opinion of the Lords was against conferring the

charter in the present circumstances of the university.

Certainly, there was no discussion in Council after the arguments

were closed, but I gathered that the impression was unfavourable

to the grant of the charter. The House of Commons knows nothing

of the argument, and rejected Goulburn's amendment to have the

proceedings before the Privy Council laid upon the table, voting

the address merely because Government opposed it.

March 29th, 1835 {p.237}

A meeting yesterday of Tories at Bridgewater House for the

purpose of securing a better attendance. Twenty-nine Moderates

met at the 'King's Head,' passengers in the 'Dilly;'[4] but of

these, nine mean to vote with John Russell, and one stays away;

also, two or three others vote against Stanley: queer partisans

and _soi-disant_ followers, who oppose him on his own vital

question. Peel concerted with Stanley in the House on Friday,

that the resolution should be met with a negative. Wharncliffe

was here to-day, loud in his praises of the Duke of Wellington,

and delighted with the Cabinet of which he is a member, _jam

morituri_ as they are.[5] He owned that they could not _probably_

go on, but that they would not give in till they could show their

friends that they had done all that men could or ought to do; so

that they are resigned to their fate, and only studying in what

attitude they shall meet it.

[4] [The 'Derby Dilly' was the nickname given to Lord

Stanley's section of a party, from a joke of

O'Connell's, who had applied to it the well-known

lines,

'So down thy hill, romantic Ashbourne, glides

The Derby Dilly, carrying six insides.']

[5] [Lord Wharncliffe was Lord Privy Seal in Sir Robert

Peel's first Administration.]

March 31st, 1835 {p.238}

It is universally believed that Government will go out after this

debate. I think it very doubtful, but the sooner they now go the

better; they are well aware they must retire, and the question

is, whether they shall do so immediately or wait till they have

passed the Mutiny Bill. If the House of Commons refused to pass

the Mutiny Bill, I think they would dissolve again. The King is

in a dreadful state of mind, as well he may be; however, it is

all his own doing, he had the courage, or rather rashness, to

dismiss his late Ministers, but I fear he has none of the cool

and reflecting resolution, and calm moral courage, which are

necessary for this crisis; he will again submit to whatever is

dictated to him.

In the meantime, the perplexity of the Opposition increases as the

moment of their triumph approaches. There were 260 people at Lord

John Russell's dinner, all prepared to go any lengths, and 20 more

who were absent put their names down. O'Connell, who declared 'it

was the most delightful evening he ever passed in his life,'

publicly acknowledged John Russell as his leader, and the Radicals

were all present but Hume. Lord Auckland (who called upon me about

a house he is thinking of taking through my mediation) said he

would not do anything about it till this week was over, as

circumstances might render it unnecessary for him to provide

himself with a residence, but that he did not see how anything

permanent could come out of the present state of things. He

expected Ministers would resign, that there would be audiences and

negotiations, and that at last they would come back again; that in

the present state of parties he saw not how any other Government

could go on any better than this; and when I asked him about John

Russell's dinner, he said it went off very well, but the

composition of it was _frightful_ (or some such word, but not, I

think, quite so strong). John Russell and Melbourne, however, are

satisfied they can go on with the Radical assistance, and they

have gone too far now to throw these allies over; they must and

will make sacrifices to secure them for their own protection, and

if the House of Lords is swamped in the first instance, they will

have things all their own way.

[Page Head: BAD POLICY OF THE HOUSE OF LORDS.]

If it were not for the peril to all that is worth preserving, I

should not be sorry for anything that happened to the House of

Lords, to whose bigoted and senseless obstinacy (upheld and

directed I am sorry to say by the Duke and Lyndhurst) the present

miserable condition of affairs is mainly attributable. Their

rejection of the Tithe Bill last year was their crowning exploit.

After all their blunders and impotent struggles against a

stronger power, if they had passed that Bill, or restored

Stanley's in committee, and returned it to the House of Commons,

I believe everything might have been retrieved. It has been

remarked, and certainly with truth, that Peel has never once

endeavoured to excuse the House of Lords or to vindicate the

peers from the taunts and reproaches which have repeatedly been

thrown out against them. In point of fact, I believe that the

Lords either did not consult him, or did not care for his

opinion. There is no disguising that the Lords liked nothing so

well last year as beating the Government, and exhibiting their

puny and spiteful power; now they are mightily shocked and

disgusted at the majority of the House of Commons taking their

revenge, though certainly the latter do it with much more rage

and factious violence, but with them it is a system of tactics

for a specific and attainable object. The Lords really had no

intelligible object but to embarrass a Government they could not

demolish, and gratify their own spite. If the most violent

Radical had been permitted to chalk out the most suicidal course

for the House of Lords to follow, he could have devised nothing

more ingenious and well contrived than what they have actually

done, taking care to keep up their character in the nation for

intolerance, and inculcating a belief in their adherence to the

most illiberal maxims of foreign and domestic policy, instead of

devoting all their energies to the recovery of the ground they

had lost in popular estimation, and strengthening themselves for

the contest, which anybody might have seen was not very remote.

April 3rd, 1835 {p.240}

They divided at I know not what hour this morning--321 to 289,[6]

a smaller majority than I was led to expect when I heard that 18

or 19 of Stanley's (so-called) party meant to go against him.

Anybody who records from day to day the shifting appearances of

the political sky must constantly recant one day the opinion and

expectation of the preceding. Stanley's speech the night before

last may very likely make an important difference in the result

of this extraordinary contest, for he has, as it seems to me, put

a final end to any possibility of junction with the great body of

the Whigs now arrayed under John Russell; he attacked Lord John

himself--his Whig and Radical alliance and the inconsistency of

his present conduct--with the utmost vehemence and scornful

reprobation, and he poured forth a torrent of sarcasm and

ridicule upon the prospective Government that he concludes they

meditate. This is so conclusive that it paves the way to his

junction with Peel, or if the latter goes out and John Russell

does come in, it is clear that he will have both Peel and Stanley

in opposition to him, against whom in the nearly balanced state

of parties he could not struggle on for a month. He was miserably

feeble in this debate (in his opening speech), and though he may

just do to lead an Opposition which wants no leading, and merely

sticks him up as a nominal chief, he could no more lead a

Government in the House of Commons than he could command an army

in the field. [So much for my prediction. Stanley's followers

dropped off and left him alone, the Government had no difficulty,

and John Russell proved a very good leader.--January 1837.]

Whatever may be the fate of Government for the present, I believe

it to be impossible that anything can prevent Peel's speedy

return to office; he has raised his reputation to such a height

during this session, he has established such a conviction of his

great capacity and of his liberal, enlarged, and at the same time

safe views and opinions, that even the Radicals, such as Hume,

join in the general chorus of admiration which is raised to his

merits; he stands so proudly eminent, and there is such a general

lack of talent, that he must be recalled by the voice of the

nation and by the universal admission that he is indispensable to

the country.

[6] [On the 30th of March Lord John Russell moved the

resolution which was carried by this division; the

terms of it were, 'That this House resolve itself into

a committee of the whole House, in order to consider

the present state of the Church Establishment in

Ireland, with the view of applying any surplus of the

revenues not required for the spiritual care of its

members to the general education of all classes of the

people, without distinction of religious persuasion.']

[Page Head: THE IRISH CHURCH QUESTION.]

I am much inclined to think that this debate on the Irish Church

question will eventually damage the Whigs not a little. Their

speeches this year might all have been answered by their speeches

last year on the same subject, and nothing can be so glaring as

their inconsistency and the factiousness of their motives. The

question is not a popular one in the country, where nothing like

favour to the Catholics of Ireland or their religion is agreeable

to the mass. The arguments in the debate have been triumphantly in

favour of the Government _upon the resolution_ as contradistinguished

from the principle; for though I am decidedly favourable to the

principle, and never had a doubt that it is preposterous to

contend that if there is a reform of the Church, and there turns

out to be a surplus, such surplus should not be dealt with as

Parliament in its wisdom shall deem best for the general

interests, under the actual circumstances of the country, at the

time the appropriation takes place; still it is perfectly

consistent with that opinion to refuse to vote for the appropriation

of the surplus which may never exist at all, or only exist at some

distant period, when other circumstances may render the proposed

appropriation altogether inexpedient.

_In the afternoon._--Peel's speech was not so good as usual; it

was laboured, and some say tame. In the morning I met him and

walked with him; he seemed in very good spirits, talked of the

thing as over, said he could not endure any meddling with the

Tithe Bill, that he considered great good had been done by the

dissolution, which had created a party strong enough to obstruct

any violent measures on the part of their opponents, said he

understood they had sent for Lord Spencer did not believe Lord

Grey would have any concern with it. I said that it was clear

after Stanley's speech that _he_ would have nothing to do with

the Whigs. He said he conceived so, but that it was very odd that

Lord John Russell did not see it in that light, and had said that

Graham could not join them, but he did not see why Stanley might

not. I told Peel that in my opinion the best thing that had been

done was the proof that he had been enabled to exhibit that he

was indispensable to the government of the country, and that if

he could infuse some firmness and courage into the King, and

persuade His Majesty stoutly to resist any requisition to swamp

the House of Lords, and rather to appeal to the country than

consent to it, in a very short space of time he must come back. I

asked him if he thought the King was capable of any such

firmness. He said he thought he was, that he was in a miserable

state of mind at the prospect before him, and all the more so

from feeling how much there was in it which fell personally upon

himself. In the meantime it does not seem that the Ministers have

come to any positive resolution, or even conviction, as to the

moment of their retirement, nor as to its absolute, unavoidable

necessity. Peel evidently considers the contest at an end. Lord

Rosslyn this morning thought he would resign immediately; the

Duke, on the other hand, appears by no means so certain that the

Tithe Bill will be mutilated, and that they shall be compelled to

go out at all. Stanley and Graham are angry that they don't

resign directly; they think Peel would retire more brilliantly at

once than by waiting for more defeats. They forget that he is

bound to satisfy his own party. Stanley, with that levity which

distinguishes all his conduct, talks of him as of 'a hunted fox,

who, instead of dying gallantly before the hounds in the open,

skulks along the hedgerows, and at last turns up his legs in a

ditch.' This he said to George Bentinck, who told it to me; it is

not the way that Lord Stanley ought to speak of Sir Robert Peel.

What I certainly do regret is that he condescended repeatedly to

entreat John Russell to put off bringing up the report till

Monday, and exposed himself to a refusal. He should have invited

the decision of the contest rather than have tried to protract

it.

April 4th, 1835

[Page Head: SIR R. PEEL'S RETIREMENT.]

I told Jonathan Peel last night that Stanley and Graham blamed

Sir Robert for not resigning at once. He said that Sir Robert

would, as far as his own feelings were concerned, have preferred

resigning long ago, but that a vast number of his supporters were

furious at the idea of his resigning at all, and wanted him to

persist at all hazards, and he was compelled to resign only upon

such a point as might enable him to satisfy them that he had

abided by the pledge which he gave at the beginning to persevere

while perseverance could be useful or honourable. He then told me

(which I certainly did not attach the slightest credit to[7])

that he should not be at all surprised if his brother were now to

retire from public life. Such an idea in some moment of disgust

may have crossed his mind, but if he were to do so in the vigour

of his age and at the climax of his reputation, it would be the

most extraordinary retirement that history ever recorded. Men of

the most splendid talents have often shrunk from entering public

life, but I am not aware of any instance of a man who had

attained the eminence and the fame of Peel who has withdrawn from

the theatre of his glory and power without some stronger motive

than any that can be found for him.

[7] A great fool indeed I should have been if I had.--1838.

I was told last night that the scene of noise and uproar which the

House of Commons now exhibits is perfectly disgusting. This used

not to be the case in better, or at least more gentlemanlike,

times; no noises were permissible but the cheer and the cough, the

former admitting every variety of intonation expressive of

admiration, approbation, assent, denial, surprise, indignation,

menace, sarcasm. Now all the musical skill of this instrument is

lost and drowned in shouts, hootings, groans, noises the most

discordant that the human throat can emit, sticks and feet beating

against the floor. Sir Hedworth Williamson, a violent Whig, told

me that there were a set of fellows on his side of the House whose

regular practice it was to make this uproar, and with the settled

design to bellow Peel down. This is the _reformed_ House of

Commons. Peel told Lord Ashley the other day that he did not think

it possible for the same man to be Prime Minister and leader in

the House of Commons (he meant to be First Lord of the Treasury

and Chancellor of the Exchequer), that no physical strength was

adequate to the labour of both employments. He may therefore

hereafter put some Peer at the head of the Government, but it is

equally indispensable, as it seems to me, that the real

substantial power should be vested in the leader of the House of

Commons, especially when he is a man so superior as Peel must

always be to any colleagues he may be associated with.

April 5th, 1835 {p.244}

[Page Head: SIR R. PEEL AND THE TORIES.]

I understand now what Jonathan Peel meant by talking of the

possibility of his brother's retiring from public life. He is no

doubt thoroughly, heartily disgusted with his own associates. It

appears that they (the Tories, or many of them) are indignant at

his declaration the other night that on the Tithe Bill being

altered he would go out, so that while others are blaming him for

not going out at once his own followers are enraged that he will

not set the House of Commons at defiance and stick to his post.

It is very evident that many of them are desirous (if Peel does

resign) of continuing the fight under the Duke of Wellington, if

they could prevail on him to try it, and to dissolve Parliament

and get up a 'No Popery' cry. They say that 'the country' (by

which they mean their own faction) looks up to the Duke, and that

Peel has really no interest there. The fact is that they cannot

forgive him for his Liberal principles and Liberal measures, and

probably they never believed that he was sincere in the

professions he made, or that he really intended to introduce such

measures as he has done. They feel (not without reason) that they

cannot follow him in the broad path he has entered upon without

abandoning all their long-cherished maxims of exclusion and

ascendency, and that in so doing they would incur much odium and

disgrace. Peel sees and knows all this, and cannot fail to

perceive that he is not the Minister for them and they no longer

the party for him. It is no wonder that he is anxious to break up

this unmanageable force, and he probably would rather trust to

that increasing feeling and opinion about himself, which is so

apparent among all classes of politicians, to place him by-and-by

at the head of a party formed upon Conservative principles and

embracing a much wider circle of opinions. Still this Tory body,

obstinate and bigoted as they are, have no other chief, and can

find none, and it is essential to Peel to keep them if possible

under his influence and direction, and therefore (I believe very

reluctantly) he defers his resignation.

April 6th, 1835 {p.245}

Yesterday Wharncliffe came here; very low indeed; he says he

never thought they were safe, though he owns that he was

surprised and disappointed that there were no defections--not

one--from the enemies' ranks when these measures were brought

forward. He says he was with the King the other evening, and

asked him if he was going back to Windsor. His Majesty said 'he

could not go back, that he could not bear being there; there he

had none of them (his Ministers) to talk to, and day and night

his mind was absorbed in public affairs.' Poor wretch! he suffers

martyrdom, and has more to suffer yet, for I expect they will

have no mercy on him. Yesterday I had more proofs of the animus

of the Tories. One of them, a foolish, hot-brained fellow

certainly (but there is no such enormous difference between the

best and the worst), told me that if Peel really did go out upon

the Tithe Bill he would abandon his party; that he ought to let

them alter the Bill as they pleased, wait till the House of

Commons threw it out, and then dissolve Parliament.

April 7th, 1835 {p.245}

Each day elicits some new proof of what I have written above--the

totally altered feelings and expressions of all conditions of

politicians about Sir Robert Peel. It would seem as if his friends

were suddenly converted into his enemies, and his enemies into his

friends. The Tories still cling to the expectation that he will

hold on to office; they say that if he goes out he abandons his

party, abandons the King. They call to mind Pitt in 1784. 'Very

slippery,' said one to me yesterday, when I read to him Peel's

answer to the City address. On the other hand Mulgrave was last

night enthusiastic in his praise; he owned that he had done

admirably--given proof of his perfect sincerity and acted in

accordance with all his declarations and professions. 'I am,' said

he, 'astonished; nothing in Peel's past political career led me to

expect that he would have done so admirably as he has. He has

raised himself immensely in my opinion.' Such is the language of

them all, swelling a choral note of praise; and then, to make the

whole thing more ridiculous (if anything so serious can be

ridiculous), the Tories, who abuse him lustily, are moving heaven

and earth to retain him, by violence almost, in his place; while

the Whigs and Radicals, who laud him to the skies, are striving

with might and main to turn him out. In a state of profound

tranquillity these Ministers are quietly transacting business with

a perfect consciousness and an universal understanding that their

Government is at an end, and the Opposition are redoubling their

blows in the House of Commons, and waiting in the complete

certainty of returning to office, for which they are already

making all their arrangements. The parts are all so quietly

performed, the catastrophe is so clearly before everybody's eyes

and understanding, that it more resembles a dramatic representation

than a mighty event in real life, big perhaps with incalculable

consequences.

April 8th, 1835 {p.246}

[Page Head: DEFEAT OF SIR R. PEEL'S MINISTRY.]

There was a majority of twenty-seven last night, which I conclude

settles the business.[8] There was to be a Cabinet this morning

at eleven, at which they had resolved to agree upon their

resignations. Wharncliffe saw the King last night. He is very

composed; they think they can infuse courage and firmness into

him, but when he is left to himself, I doubt him. Nothing can be

imagined more painful on both sides than his approaching

interview with the once rejected and now triumphant Whigs.

Yesterday I rode with Ellice up the Park. He said, 'Grey will do

anything they wish him to do, but I think he had better have

nothing to do with it.' He talked of the new Government that will

be formed as having no difficulty; that they might have if Peel

and the Tories went into violent opposition, which he is

convinced Peel will not do. I said they might go on till the

Tithe Bill went to the House of Lords, when they would expunge

the appropriation clause. He said, 'They won't be so mad; there

is no Church of Ireland now, and the question is whether there

shall be one, for without that clause no Tithe Bill will ever

pass.'

[8] [The Ministry was defeated on the Irish Tithe Bill on

the 3rd of April by a majority of 33 in a House of 611;

on the 6th of April by a majority of 25 in a House of

499; and on the 7th of April by a majority of 27 in a

House of 543.]

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