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REPORT

OF THE

LORDS COMMISSIONERS for

TRADE and PLANTATIONS

ON THE

PETITION

OF THE

Honourable THOMAS WALPOLE, BENJAMIN

FRANKLIN, JOHN SARGENT, and SAMUEL

WHARTON, Esquires, and their ASSOCIATES;

FOR

A Grant of Lands on the RIVER OHIO, in North

America; for the purpose of Erecting a new

Government.

WITH

OBSERVATIONS and REMARKS.

LONDON:

Printed for J. ALMON, opposite Burlington-House, in

Piccadilly.

MDCCLXXII.

REPORT

OF

The Lords Commissioners for

Trade and Plantations.

ON THE

PETITION of the Honourable

THOMAS WALPOLE and his Associates,

for a Grant of Lands on

the River OHIO in NORTH AMERICA.

MY LORDS,

Pursuant to your lordships order of the 25th May 1770, we have taken

into our consideration the humble memorial of the honourable Thomas

Walpole, Benjamin Franklin, John Sargent, and Samuel Wharton, Esquires,

in behalf of themselves and their associates, setting forth (among

other things) "That they presented a petition to his Majesty, in

council, for a grant of lands in America (_parcel_ of the lands

purchased by government of the Indians) in consideration of a price to

be paid in purchase of the same; _that in pursuance of a suggestion

which arose when the said petition was under consideration of the Lords

Commissioners for trade and plantations_, the memorialists presented a

petition to the Lords Commissioners of the treasury, proposing to

purchase a larger tract of land on the river Ohio in America,

sufficient for a separate government; whereupon their lordships were

pleased to acquaint the memorialists, they had no objection to

accepting the proposals made by them with respect to the purchase-money

and quit-rent to be paid for the said tract of land, if it should be

thought adviseable by those departments of government, to whom it

belonged to judge of the propriety of the grant, both in point of

policy and justice, that the grant should be made; in consequence

whereof the memorialists humbly renew their application that a grant of

said lands may be made to them, _reserving therein to all persons their

just and legal rights to any parts or parcels of said lands which may

be comprehended within the tract prayed for by the memorialists;_"

whereupon we beg leave to report to your lordships,

I. That according to the description of the tract of land prayed for by

the memorialists, which description is annexed to their memorial, it

appears to us to contain part of the dominion of Virginia, to the south

of the river Ohio, and to extend several degrees of longitude westward

from the western ridge of the Appalachian mountains, as will more fully

appear to your Lordships from the annexed sketch of the said tract,

which we have since caused to be delineated with as much exactness as

possible, and herewith submit to your Lordships, to the end that your

Lordships may judge with the greater precision of the situation of the

lands prayed for in the memorial.

II. From this sketch your Lordships will observe, that a very

considerable part of the lands prayed for, lies beyond the line, which

has, in consequence of his Majesty's orders for that purpose, been

settled by treaty, as well with the tribes of the Six Nations, and

their confederates, as with the Cherokee Indians, as the boundary line

between his Majesty's territories and their hunting grounds; and as the

faith of the crown is pledged in the most solemn manner both to the Six

Nations and to the Cherokees, that notwithstanding the former of these

nations had ceded the property in the lands to his Majesty, yet no

settlements shall be made beyond that line, it is our duty to report to

your Lordships our opinion, that it would on that account be highly

improper to comply with the request of the memorial, _so far as it

includes any lands beyond the said line_.

It remains therefore, that we report to your Lordships our opinion, how

far it may consist with good policy and with justice, that his Majesty

should comply with that part of the memorial which relates to those

lands which are situated to the east of that line, and are part of the

dominion of Virginia.

III. And first with regard to the policy, we take leave to remind your

Lordships of that principle which was adopted by this Board, and

approved and confirmed by his Majesty, immediately after the treaty of

Paris, _viz._ the confining the western extent of settlements to such a

distance from the sea coast, as that those settlements should lie

_within the reach of the trade and commerce of this kingdom_, upon

which the strength and riches of it depend, and also of the exercise of

that authority and jurisdiction, which was conceived to be necessary

for the preservation of the colonies, in a due subordination to, and

dependance upon, the Mother Country; and these we apprehend to have

been two capital objects of his Majesty's proclamation of the 7th of

October 1763, by which his Majesty declares it to be his royal will and

pleasure to reserve under his sovereignty, protection, and dominion,

for the _use_ of the Indians, all the lands not included within the

three new governments, the limits of which are described therein, as

also all the lands and territories lying to the westward of the sources

of the rivers which shall fall into the sea from the west and

north-west, and by which, all persons are forbid to make any purchases

or settlements whatever, or to take possession of any of the lands

above reserved, without special licence for that purpose.

IV. It is true indeed, that partly from _want of precision_ in

describing the line intended to be marked out by the proclamation of

1763, and partly from a consideration of justice _in regard to legal

titles to lands_, which had been settled beyond that line, it has been

since thought fit to enter into engagements with the Indians, for

fixing a more precise and determinate _boundary_ between his Majesty's

territories and their hunting grounds.

V. By this _boundary_, so far as it regards the case now in question,

your Lordships will observe, that the hunting grounds of the Indians

are reduced within narrower limits than were specified by the

proclamation of 1763; we beg leave however, to submit to your

Lordships, that the same principles of policy, in reference to

settlements _at so great a distance_ from the sea coast _as to be out

of the reach of all advantageous intercourse with this kingdom_,

continue to exist in their full force and spirit; and, though various

propositions for erecting new colonies in the interior parts of America

have been, in consequence of this extension of the boundary line,

submitted to the consideration of government (particularly in that part

of the country wherein are situated the lands now prayed for, with a

view to that object) yet the dangers and disadvantages of complying

with such proposals have been so obvious, as to defeat every attempt

made for carrying them into execution.

VI. Many objections, besides those which we have already stated, occur

to us to propositions of this kind; but as _every argument_ on this

subject is _collected together with great force and precision_, in a

representation made to his Majesty by the Commissioners for Trade and

Plantations in March 1768, we beg leave to state them to your Lordships

in their words.

In that representation they deliver their opinion upon a proposition

for settling new colonies in the interior country as follows, _viz._

"The proposition of forming inland colonies in America is, we humbly

conceive, entirely new: it adopts principles in respect to American

settlements, different from what have hitherto been the policy of this

kingdom, and leads to a system which, if pursued through all its

consequences, is, in the present state of that country, of the greatest

importance.

"The great object of colonizing upon the continent of North America,

has been to improve and extend the commerce, navigation, and

manufactures of this kingdom, upon which its strength and security

depend.

1. "By promoting the advantageous fishery carried on upon the northern

coast.

2. "By encouraging the growth and culture of naval stores, and of raw

materials, to be transported hither in exchange for perfect

manufactures and other merchandise.

3. "By securing a supply of lumber, provisions, and other necessaries,

for the support of our establishments in the American islands.

"In order to answer these salutary purposes, it has been the policy of

this kingdom to confine her settlements as much as possible to the sea

coast, and not to extend them to places inaccessible to shipping, and

consequently more out of the reach of commerce; a plan, which, at the

same time that it secured the attainment of these commercial objects,

had the further political advantage of guarding against all interfering

of foreign powers, and of enabling this kingdom to keep up a superior

naval force in those seas, by the actual possession of such rivers and

harbours as were proper stations for fleets in time of war.

"Such, may it please your Majesty, have been the considerations

inducing that plan of policy hitherto pursued in the settlement of your

Majesty's American colonies, with which the private interest and

sagacity of the settlers co-operated from the first establishments

formed upon that continent: It was upon these principles, and with

these views, that government undertook the settling of Novia Scotia in

1749; and it was from a view of the advantages represented to arise

from it in these different articles, that it was so liberally supported

by the aid of parliament.

"The same motives, though operating in a less degree, and applying to

fewer objects, did, as we humbly conceive, induce the forming the

colonies of Georgia, East Florida, and West Florida, to the South, and

the making those provincial arrangements in the proclamation of 1763,

by which the interior country was left to the possession of the

Indians.

"Having thus briefly stated what has been the policy of this kingdom in

respect to colonizing in America, it may be necessary to take a cursory

view of what has been the effect of it in those colonies, where there

has been sufficient time for that effect to discover itself; because,

if it shall appear from the present state of these settlements, and the

progress they have made, that they are likely to produce the advantages

above stated, it will, we humbly apprehend, be a very strong argument

against forming settlements in the interior country; more especially,

when every advantage, derived from an established government, would

naturally tend to draw the stream of population; fertility of soil and

temperature of climate offering superior incitements to settlers, who,

exposed to few hardships, and struggling with few difficulties, could,

with little labour, earn an abundance for their own wants, but without

a possibility of supplying ours with any considerable quantities. Nor

would these inducements be confined in their operation to foreign

emigrants, determining their choice where to settle, but would act most

powerfully upon the inhabitants of the northern and southern latitudes

of your Majesty's American dominions; who, ever suffering under the

opposite extremes of heat and cold, would be equally tempted by a

moderate climate to abandon latitudes peculiarly adapted to the

production of those things, which are by Nature denied to us; and for

the whole of which we should, without their assistance, stand indebted

to, and dependant upon other countries.

"It is well known that antecedent to the year 1749, all that part of

the sea-coast of the British empire in America, which extends

north-east from the province of Main to Canceau in Nova Scotia, and

from thence to the mouth of St. Laurence river, lay waste and

neglected; though naturally affording, or capable by art of producing,

every species of naval stores; the seas abounding with whale, cod, and

other valuable fish, and having many great rivers, bays, and harbours,

fit for the reception of ships of war. Thus circumstanced, a

consideration of the great commercial advantages which would follow

from securing the possession of this country, combined with the

evidence of the value set upon it by our enemies, who, during the war

which terminated at that period, had, at an immense expence, attempted

to wrest it from us, induced that plan, for the settlement of Novia

Scotia, to which we have before referred; and which, being prosecuted

with vigour, though at a very large expence to this kingdom, secured

the possession of that province, and formed those establishments which

contributed so greatly to facilitate and promote the success of your

Majesty's arms in the late war.

"The establishment of government in this part of America, having opened

to the view and information of your Majesty's subjects in other

colonies the great commercial advantages to be derived from it, induced

a zeal for migration; and associations were formed for taking up lands,

and making settlements, in this province, by principal persons residing

in these colonies.

"In consequence of these associations, upwards of ten thousand souls

have passed from those colonies into Novia Scotia; who have either

engaged in the fisheries, or become exporters of lumber and provisions

to the West Indies. And further settlements, to the extent of

twenty-one townships, of one hundred thousand acres each, have been

engaged to be made there, by many of the principal persons in

Pennsylvania, whose names and association for that purpose now lie

before your Majesty in council.

"The government of Massachussets Bay, as well as the proprietors of

large tracts to the eastward of the province of Main, excited by the

success of these settlements, are giving every encouragement to the

like settlements in that valuable country, lying between them and Novia

Scotia; and the proprietors of the twelve townships lately laid out

there, by the Massachussets government, now solicit your Majesty for a

confirmation of their title.

"Such, may it please your Majesty, is the present state of the progress

making in the settlement of the northern parts of the sea coasts of

North America, in consequence of what appears to have been the policy

adopted by this kingdom. And many persons of rank and substance here

are proceeding to carry into execution the plan which your Majesty

(pursuing the same principles of commercial policy) has approved for

the settlement of the islands of St. John and Cape Breton, and of the

new established colonies to the south. And, therefore, as we are fully

convinced, that the encouraging settlements upon the sea coast of North

America is founded in the true principles of commercial policy; as we

find upon examination, that the happy effects of that policy are now

beginning to open themselves, in the establishment of these branches of

commerce, culture, and navigation, upon which the strength, wealth, and

security of this kingdom depend; we cannot be of opinion, that it would

in any view be adviseable, to divest your Majesty's subjects in America

from the pursuit of those important objects, by adopting measures of a

new policy, _at an expence to this kingdom, which in its present state

it is unable to bear_.

"This, may it please your Majesty, being the light in which we view the

proposition of colonizing in the interior country, considered as a

general principle of policy; we shall, in the next place, proceed to

examine the several arguments urged in support of the particular

establishments now recommended.

"These arguments appear to us reducible to the following general

propositions, viz.

First, "That such colonies will promote population, and increase the

demands for and consumption of British manufactures."

Secondly, "That they will secure the fur trade, and prevent an illicit

trade, or interfering of French or Spaniards with the Indians."

Thirdly, "That they will be a defence and protection to the old

colonies against the Indians."

Fourthly, "That they will contribute to lessen the present heavy

expence of supplying provisions to the different forts and garrisons."

Lastly, "That they are necessary in respect to the inhabitants already

residing in those places where they are proposed to be established, who

require some form of civil government."

"After what we have already stated with respect to the policy of

encouraging colonies in the interior country as a general principle, we

trust it will not be necessary to enter into an ample discussion of the

arguments brought to support the foregoing propositions.

"We admit as an undeniable principle of true policy, that with a view

to prevent manufactures, it is necessary and proper to open an extent

of territory for colonization proportioned to the increase of people,

as a large number of inhabitants, cooped up in narrow limits, without a

sufficiency of land for produce, would be compell'd to convert their

attention and industry to manufactures; but we submit whether the

encouragement given to the settlement of the colonies upon the sea

coast, and the effect which such encouragement has had, have not

already effectually provided for this object, as well as for increasing

the demand for, and consumption of British manufactures, an advantage

which, in our humble opinion, would not be promoted by these new

colonies, which being proposed to be established, at the distance of

_above fifteen hundred miles from the sea_, and in places which, upon

the fullest evidence, are found to be utterly inaccessible to shipping,

will, from their inability to find returns wherewith to pay for the

manufactures of Great Britain, be probably led to manufacture for

themselves; a consequence which experience shews has constantly

attended in greater or lesser degree every inland settlement, and

therefore ought, in our humble opinion, to be carefully guarded

against, by _encouraging_ the settlement of that extensive tract of sea

coast hitherto unoccupied; _which, together with the liberty that the

inhabitants of the middle colonies will have_ (in consequence _of the

proposed boundary line with the Indians_) of _gradually extending

themselves backwards_, will more effectually and beneficially answer

the object of encouraging population and consumption, than the erection

of new governments; such gradual extension might through the medium of

a continued population, upon even the same extent of territory,

preserve a communication of mutual commercial benefits between its

extremest parts and Great Britain, _impossible_ to _exist in colonies

separated by immense tracts of unpeopled desart_.--As to the effect

which it is supposed the colonies may have to increase and promote the

fur trade, and to prevent all contraband trade or intercourse between

the Indians under your Majesty's protection, and the French or

Spaniards; it does appear to us, that the extension of the fur trade

depends entirely upon the Indians being undisturbed in the possession

of their hunting, grounds; that all colonizing does in its nature, and

must in its consequences, operate to the prejudice of that branch of

commerce, and that the French and Spaniard would be left in possession

of a great part of what remained; as New Orleans would still continue

the best and surest market.

"As to the protection which it is supposed these new colonies may be

capable of affording to the old ones, it will, in our opinion, appear

on the slightest view of their situation, that so far from affording

protection to the old colonies, they will stand most in need of it

themselves.

"It cannot be denied, that new colonies would be of advantage in

raising provisions for the supply of such forts and garrisons as may be

kept up in the neighbourhood of them; but as the degree of utility will

be proportioned to the number and situation of these forts and

garrisons, which upon the result of the present enquiry it may be

thought adviseable to continue, so the force of the argument will

depend upon that event.

"The present French inhabitants in the neighbourhood of the Lakes will,

in our humble opinion, be sufficient to furnish with provisions

whatever posts may be necessary to be continued there; and as there are

also French inhabitants settled in some parts of the country lying upon

the Mississippi, between the rivers Illinois and the Ohio, it is to be

hoped that a sufficient number of these may be induced to fix their

abode, where the same convenience and advantage may be derived from

them; but if no such circumstance were to exist, and no such assistance

to be expected from it, the objections stated to the plan now under our

consideration are superior to this, or any other advantage it can

produce; and although civil establishments have frequently rendered the

expence of an armed force necessary for their protection, one of the

many objections to these now proposed, yet we humbly presume there

never has been an instance of a government instituted merely with a

view to supply a body of troops with suitable provisions; nor is it

necessary in these instances for the settlements, already existing as

above described, which being formed under military establishments, and

ever subjected to military authority, do not, in our humble opinion,

require any other superintendance than that of the military officers

commanding at these posts.

"In addition to this opinion of the Board of Trade, expressed in the

foregoing recital, we further beg leave to refer your Lordships to the

opinion of the Commander in Chief of his Majesty's forces in North

America, who, in a letter laid before us by the Earl of Hillsborough,

delivers his sentiments with regard to the settlements in the interior

parts of America in the following words, viz.

VII. "As to increasing the settlements to respectable provinces, and to

colonization _in general terms_ in the _remote_ countries, I conceive

it altogether inconsistent with sound policy; for there is little

appearance that the advantages will arise from it which nations expect

when they send out colonies into _foreign countries_; they can give no

encouragement to the fishery, and though the country might afford some

kind of naval stores, the distance would be too far to transport them;

and for the same reason they could not supply the sugar islands with

lumber and provisions. As for the raising wine, silk, and other

commodities, the same may be said of the present colonies without

planting others for the purpose at so vast a distance; but on the

supposition that they would be raised, their very long transportation

must probably make them too dear for any market. I do not apprehend the

inhabitants could have any commodities to barter for manufactures

except skins and furs, which will naturally decrease as the country

increases in people, and the desarts are cultivated; so that in the

course of a few years necessity would force them to provide

manufactures of some kind for themselves; and when all connection

upheld by commerce with the mother country shall cease, it may be

expected, that an independancy on her government will soon follow; the

pretence of forming barriers will have no end; wherever we settle,

however remote, there must be a frontier; and there is room enough for

the colonists to spread within our present limits, for a century to

come. If we reflect how the people of themselves have gradually retired

from the coast, we shall be convinced they want no encouragement to

desert sea coasts, and go into the back countries, where the lands are

better, and got upon easier terms; they are already almost out of the

reach of law and government; neither the endeavours of government, or

fear of Indians, has kept them properly within bounds; and it is

apparently most for the interest of Great Britain to confine the

colonies on the side of the back country, and to direct their

settlements along the sea coast, where millions of acres are yet

uncultivated. The lower provinces are still thinly inhabited, and not

brought to the point of perfection that has been aimed at for the

mutual benefit of Great Britain and themselves. Although America may

supply the mother country with many articles, few of them are yet

supplied in quantities equal to her consumption, the quantity of iron

transported is not great, of hemp very small, and there are many other

commodities not necessary to enumerate, which America has not yet been

able to raise, notwithstanding the encouragement given her by bounties

and premiums. The laying open new tracts of fertile territory in

moderate climates might lessen her present produce; for it is the

passion of every man to be a landholder, and the people have a natural

disposition to rove in search of good lands, however distant. It may be

a question likewise, whether colonization of the kind could be effected

_without an Indian war, and fighting for every inch of ground_. The

Indians have long been jealous of our power, and have no patience in

seeing us approach their towns, and settle up on their hunting grounds;

atonements may be made for a fraud discovered in a trader, and even the

murder of some of their tribes, but _encroachments_ upon their lands

have often produced serious consequences. The springs of the last

general war are to be discovered near the Allegany mountains, and upon

the banks of the Ohio.

"It is so obvious, that settlers might raise provisions to feed the

troops cheaper than it can be transported from the country below, that

it is not necessary to explain it; but I must own I know no other use

in settlements, or can give any other reason for supporting forts, than

to protect the settlements, and keep the settlers in subjection to

government.

"I conceive, that to procure all the commerce it will afford, and as

little expence to ourselves as we can, is the only object we shall have

in view in the interior country, for a century to come; and I imagine

it might be effected, by proper management, without either forts or

settlements. Our manufactures are as much desired by the Indians, as

their peltry is sought for by us; what was originally deemed a

superfluity, or a luxury by the natives, is now become a necessary;

they are disused to the bow, and can neither hunt, or make war without

fire-arms, powder, and lead. The British provinces can only supply them

with their necessaries, which they know, and for their own sakes would

protect the trader, which they actually do at present. It would remain

with us to prevent the trader's being guilty of frauds and impositions,

and to pursue the same methods to that end, as are taken in the

Southern district; and I must confess, though the plan pursued in that

district might be improved by proper laws to support it, that I do not

know a better, or more oeconomical plan for the management of trade;

there are neither forts nor settlements, in the Southern department,

and there are both in the Northern department; and your Lordships will

be the best judge, which of them has given you the least trouble; in

which we have had the fewest quarrels with, or complaints from the

Indians.

"I know of nothing so liable to bring on a serious quarrel with Indians

_as an invasion of their property_. Let the savages enjoy their desarts

in quiet; little bickerings that may unavoidably sometimes happen, may

soon be accommodated; and I am of opinion, independent of the motives

of common justice and humanity, that the principles of interest and

policy, should induce us rather to protect than molest them: were they

driven from their forests, the peltry trade would decrease; and it is

_not impossible_ that worse savages would take refuge in them, for they

might then become the asylum of fugitive Negroes, and idle vagabonds,

escaped from justice, who in time might become formidable, and subsist

by rapine, and plundering the lower countries."

VIII. The opinions delivered in the foregoing recitals are so accurate

and precise, as to make it almost unnecessary to add any thing more:

But we beg leave to lay before your Lordships the sentiments of his

Majesty's Governor of Georgia, upon the subject of large grants in the

interior parts of America, whose knowledge and experience in the

affairs of the colonies give great weight to his opinion.

In a letter to us, on the subject of the mischiefs attending such

grants, he expresses himself in the following manner, viz.

"And now, my Lords, I beg your patience a moment, while I consider this

matter in a more extensive point of view, and go a little further in

declaring my sentiments and opinion, with respect to the granting of

large bodies of land, in the back parts of the province of Georgia, or

in any other of his Majesty's Northern colonies, at a distance from the

sea-coast, or from such parts of any province as are already settled

and inhabited.

"And this matter, my Lords, appears to me, in a very serious and

alarming light; and I humbly conceive may be attended with the greatest

and worst of consequences; for, my Lords, if a vast territory be

granted to any set of gentlemen, who really mean to people it, and

actually do so, it must draw and carry out a great number of people

from Great Britain; and I apprehend they will soon become a kind of

separate and independent people, and who will set up for themselves;

that they will soon have manufactures of their own; that they will

neither take supplies from the mother country, or from the provinces,

at the back of which they are settled; that being at a distance from

the seat of government, courts, magistrates, &c. &c. they will be out

of the reach and controul of law and government; that it will become a

receptacle and kind of asylum for offenders, who will fly from justice

to such new country or colony; and therefore crimes and offences will

be committed, not only by the inhabitants of such new settlements, but

elsewhere, and pass with impunity; and that in process of time (and

perhaps at no great distance) they will become formidable enough, to

oppose his Majesty's authority, disturb government, and even give law

to the other or first settled part of the country, and throw every

thing into confusion.

"My Lords, I hope I shall not be thought impertinent, when I give my

opinion freely, in a matter of so great consequence, as I conceive this

to be; and, my Lords, I apprehend, that in all the American colonies,

great care should be taken, that the lands on the sea-coast, should be

thick settled with inhabitants, and well cultivated and improved; and

that the settlements should be gradually extended back into the

province, and as much connected as possible, to keep the people

together in as narrow a compass _as the nature of the lands, and state

of things will admit of_; and by which means there would probably

become only one general view and interest amongst them, and the power

of government and law would of course naturally and easily go with

them, and matters thereby properly regulated, and kept in due order and

obedience; and they would have no idea of resisting or transgressing

either without being amenable to justice, and subject to punishment for

any offences they may commit.

"But, my Lords, to suffer a kind of _province within a province_, and

one that may, indeed must in process of time become superior, and too

big for the head, or original settlement or seat of government, to me

conveys with it many ideas of consequence, of such a nature, as I

apprehend are extremely dangerous and improper, and it would be the

policy of government to avoid and prevent, whilst in their power to do

so.

"My ideas, my Lords, are not chimerical; I know something of the

situation and state of things in America; and from some little

occurrences or instances that have already really happened, I can very

easily figure to myself what may, and, in short, what will certainly

happen, if not prevented in time."

IX. At the same time that we submit the foregoing reasoning against

colonization in the interior country to your Lordships consideration,

it is proper we should take notice of one argument, which has been

invariably held forth in support or every proposition of this nature,

and upon which the present proponents appear to lay great stress. It is

urged, that such is the state of the country now proposed to be

granted, and erected into a separate government, that no endeavours on

the part of the crown can avail, to prevent its being settled by those

who, by the increase of population in the middle colonies, are

continually emigrating to the Westward, and forming themselves into

colonies in that country, without the intervention or controul of

government, and who, if suffered to continue in that lawless state of

anarchy and confusion, will commit such abuses as cannot fail of

involving us in quarrel and dispute with the Indians, and thereby

endangering the security of his Majesty's colonies.

We admit, that this is an argument that deserves attention; and we

rather take notice of it in this place, because some of the objections

stated by Governor Wright _lose their force upon the supposition that

the grants against which he argues are to be erected into separate

governments_. But we are clearly of opinion, that his arguments do, in

the general view of them, as applied to the question of granting lands

in the interior parts of America, stand unanswerable; and _admitting_

that the settlers in the country in question are _as numerous as report

states them to be_, yet we submit to your Lordships, that this is a

fact which does, in the nature of it, operate strongly in point of

argument _against_ what is proposed; for if the foregoing reasoning has

any weight, it certainly ought to induce your Lordships to advise his

Majesty to take every method to _check_ the progress of these

settlements, and _not_ to make such grants of the land as will have an

immediate tendency to encourage them; a measure which we conceive is

altogether as unnecessary as it is impolitic, as we see nothing to

hinder the government of Virginia from extending the laws and

constitution of that colony to such persons as may have already settled

there _under legal titles_.

X. And there is one objection suggested by Governor Wright to the

extension of settlements in the interior country, which, we submit,

deserves your Lordships particular attention, viz. the encouragement

that is thereby held out to the emigration of his Majesty's European

subjects; an argument which, in the present peculiar situation of this

kingdom, demands very serious consideration, and has for some time past

had so great weight with this Board, that it has induced us to deny our

concurrence to many proposals for grants of land, even in those parts

of the continent of America where, in all other respects, we are of

opinion, that it consists with the true policy of this kingdom to

encourage settlements; and this consideration of the certain bad

consequences which must result from a continuance of such emigrations,

as have lately taken place from various parts of his Majesty's European

dominions, added to the constant drains to Africa, to the East Indies,

and to the new ceded Islands, will we trust, with what has been before

stated, be a sufficient answer to every argument that can be urged in

support of the present memorial, so far as regards the consideration of

it in point of policy.

XI. With regard to the propriety in point of _justice_ of making the

grant desired, we presume this consideration can have reference only to

the case of such persons who have already possession of lands in that

part of the country under legal titles derived from grants made by the

Governor and Council of Virginia; upon which case we have only to

observe, that it does appear to us, that there are _some_ such

possessions held by persons who are not parties to the present

Memorial; and therefore, if your Lordships shall be of opinion, that

the making the grant desired would, notwithstanding the reservation

proposed in respect to such titles, have the effect to disturb those

possessions, or to expose the proprietors to suit and litigation, we do

conceive, that, in that case, the grant would be objectionable in point

of justice.

XII. Upon the whole, therefore, we cannot recommend to your Lordships

to advise his Majesty to comply with the prayer of this Memorial,

either as to the erection of any parts of the lands into a separate

government, or the making a grant of them to the Memorialists; but, on

the contrary, we are of opinion, that settlements in that distant part

of the country should be as much discouraged as possible; and that, in

order thereto, it will be expedient, not only that the orders which

have been given to the Governor of Virginia, not to make any further

grants beyond the line prescribed by the proclamation of 1763, should

be continued and enforced, but that another proclamation should be

issued, declaratory of his Majesty's resolution not to allow, for the

_present_, any new settlements beyond that line, and to forbid all

persons from taking up or settling any lands in that part of the

country.

We are,

My Lords,

Your Lordships most obedient and

Most humble servants,

WHITEHALL, April 15, 1772.

OBSERVATIONS on, and ANSWERS to, the foregoing REPORT.

I. The first paragraph of the Report, we apprehend, was intended to

establish two propositions as facts;--viz.--

First, That the tract of land agreed for with the Lords Commissioners

of the Treasury, contains _part_ of the dominion of Virginia.

Second, That it extends several degrees of longitude _Westward_ from

the Western ridge of the _Allegany_ mountains.

On the first proposition we shall only remark, that no part of the

above tract is to the _Eastward_ of the Allegany mountains;--and that

these mountains must be considered as the true Western boundary of

_Virginia_;--for the King was _not_ seised and possessed of a right _to

the country Westward_ of the mountains, until his Majesty purchased it,

in the year 1768, from the Six Nations: and since that time, there has

not been any annexation of such purchase, or of any part thereof, to

the colony of Virginia.

On the second proposition,--we shall just observe, that the Lords

Commissioners for Trade and Plantations appear to us to be as erroneous

in this as in the former proposition; for their Lordships say, that the

tract of land under consideration _extends several degrees_ of

longitude _Westward_. The truth is, that it is not more, on a medium,

than one degree and a half of longitude from the Western ridge of the

Allegany mountains to the river Ohio.

II. It appears by the second paragraph, as if the Lords Commissioners

for Trade and Plantations apprehended,--that the lands south-westerly

of the _boundary line_, marked on a map annexed to their Lordships

_report_,--were either claimed by the Cherokees, or were their hunting

grounds, or were the hunting grounds of the Six Nations and their

confederates.

As to any claim of the Cherokees to the above country, it is altogether

new and indefensible; and never was heard of, until the appointment of

Mr. Stewart to the superintendency of the Southern colonies, about the

year 1764; and this, we flatter ourselves, will not only be obvious

from the following state of facts, but that the right to _all the

country_ on the Southerly side of the river Ohio, quite to the Cherokee

River, is _now_ undoubtedly vested in the King, by the grant which the

Six Nations made to his Majesty at Fort Stanwix, in November 1768.--In

short, the lands from the _Great Kenhawa_ to the _Cherokee river_ never

were, either the dwelling or hunting grounds of the _Cherokees_;--but

formerly belonged to, and were inhabited by the _Shawanesse_, until

such time as they were conquered by the Six Nations.

Mr. Colden, the present Lieutenant Governor of New York, in his History

of the Five Nations, observes, that about the year 1664, "the Five

Nations being amply supplied by the English with firearms and

ammunition, gave a full swing to their warlike genius. They carried

their arms _as far South as Carolina_, to the Northward of New England,

and as _far West as the river Mississippi_, over a vast country,--which

extended 1200 miles in length from North to South, and 600 miles in

breadth,--where they entirely destroyed whole nations, of whom there

are no accounts remaining among the English."

In 1701,--the Five Nations put all their hunting lands under the

protection of the English, as appears by the records, and by the

recital and confirmation thereof, in their deed to the King of the 4th

September 1726;--and Governor Pownal, who many years ago diligently

searched into the rights of the natives, and in particular into those

of the Northern confederacy, says, in his book intituled, the

_Administration of the Colonies_, "The right of the Five Nation

confederacy to the hunting _lands of Ohio_, Ticucksouchrondite and

Scaniaderiada, by the conquest they made, in subduing the _Shaoeanaes_,

Delawares (as we call them) Twictwees and Oilinois, may be fairly

proved, as they stood possessed thereof at the peace of Reswick

1697."--And confirmatory hereof, Mr. Lewis Evans, a gentleman of great

American knowledge, in his map of the middle colonies, published in

America in the year 1755, has laid down the country on the

_South-easterly side_ of the river Ohio, _as the hunting lands of the

Six Nations_; and in his Analysis to this map, he expressly says,--"The

_Shawanesse_, who were formerly one of the most considerable nations of

those parts of America, whose seat extended from _Kentucke_

South-westward to the Mississippi, have been subdued by the

confederates (or Six Nations) _and the country since became their

property_. No nation," Mr. Evans adds, "held out with greater

resolution and bravery, and although they have been scattered in all

parts for a while, they are again collected on _Ohio_, under the

dominion of the confederates."

At a congress held in the year 1744, by the provinces of Pennsylvania,

Maryland, and Virginia with the Six Nations,--the Commissioners of

Virginia, in a speech to the Sachems and Warriors of that confederacy,

say, "tell us what nations of Indians you conquered any lands from in

Virginia, how long it is since, and what possession you have had; and

if it does appear, that there is any land on the _borders_ of Virginia

that the Six Nations have a right to, we are willing to make you

satisfaction."

To this speech the Six Nations gave the following animated and decisive

answer:--"All the world knows we conquered the several nations living

on Sasquehanna, Cohongoranto [_i.e._ Powtomack] _and on the back of the

great mountains in Virginia_;--the Conoy-uck-suck-roona,

Cock-now-was-roonan, Tohoa-irough-roonan, and Connutskin-ough-roonaw

_feel_ the effects of our conquests; being now a part of our nations,

and their lands at _our_ disposal. We know very well, it hath often

been said by the Virginians, that the King of England and the people of

that colony conquered the people who lived there; but it is not true.

We will allow, they conquered the Sachdagughronaw, and drove back the

Tuskaroras [the first resided near the branches of James's River in

Virginia, and the latter on these branches] and that they have, on that

account, a right to some parts of Virginia; _but as to what lies beyond

the mountains, we conquered the nations residing there, and that land_,

if the Virginians ever get a _good right to it, it must be by us_."

In the year 1750, the French seized four English traders, who were

trading with the Six Nations, Shawanesse and Delawares, on the waters

of the Ohio, and sent them prisoners to Quebeck, and from thence to

France.

In 1754, the French took a formal possession of the river Ohio, and

built forts at Venango,--at the confluence of the Ohio and Monongehela,

and at the _mouth of the Cherokee River_.

In 1755, General Braddock was sent to America with an army, to remove

the French from their possessions _over_ the Allegany mountains, and on

the river Ohio; and on his arrival at Alexandria, held a council of war

with the Governors of Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, New York, and

the Massachusets Bay;--And as these gentlemen well knew, that the

country claimed by the French, _over the Allegany mountains, and

South-westerly to the river Mississippi_, was the unquestionable

property of the _six Nations_, and _not_ of the Cherokees, or any other

tribe of Indians,--the General gave instructions to Sir William

Johnson, to call together the Indians of the _Six Nations_, and lay

before them their before-mentioned grant to the King in 1726,--wherein

they had put all their hunting lands _under his Majesty's protection;

to be guaranteed to them, and to their use_:--And as General Braddock's

instructions are clearly declaratory of the right of the Six Nations to

the lands under consideration, we shall here transcribe the conclusive

words of them,--"And it appearing that the French have, from time to

time, by fraud and violence, built strong forts _within the limits of

the said lands_, contrary to the covenant chain of the said deed and

treaties, you are, in my name, to assure the said nations, that I am

come by his Majesty's order, to destroy all the said forts, and to

build such others, _as shall protect and secure the said lands to them,

their heirs and successors for ever_, according to the intent and

spirit of the said treaty; and I do therefore call upon them to take up

the hatchet, _and come and take possession of their own lands_."

That General Braddock and the American Governors, were _not_ singular

in their opinion, as to the right of the Six Nations to the land _over_

the Allegany mountains, and on both sides of the river Ohio, quite to

the Mississippi,--is evident, from the memorials which passed between

the British and French Courts in 1755.

In a memorial delivered by the King's Ministers on the 7th June 1755,

to the Duke Mirepoix, relative to the pretensions of France to the

above-mentioned lands, they very justly observed--"As to the

exposition, which is made in the French memorial of the 15th article of

the treaty of Utrecht, the Court of Great Britain does not think it can

have any foundation, either by the words or the intention of this

treaty.

1st, "The Court of Great Britain cannot allow of this article, relating

only to the persons of the Savages, and _not their country_: The words

of this treaty are clear and precise, that is to say, the Five

_Nations_ or Cantons, are subject to the dominion of Great

Britain,--which, by the received exposition of all treaties, must

relate to the _country_, as well to the persons of the inhabitants;--it

is what France has acknowledged in the most solemn manner;--She has

well weighed the importance of this acknowledgement, at the time of

signing this treaty, and Great Britain can never give it up. The

countries possessed by these Indians, _are very well known, and are not

at all so undetermined_, as it is pretended in the memorial: they

_possess_ and _make them over, as other proprietors do, in all other

places_."

5th, "Whatever pretext might be alledged by France, in considering

these countries as the appurtenances of Canada; _it is a certain truth,

that they have belonged, and_ (as they have not been given up, _or made

over_ to the English) _belong still to the same Indian nations_; which,

by the 15th article of the treaty of Utrecht, France agreed not to

molest,--Nullo in posterum impedimento, aut molestia afficiant."

"Notwithstanding all that has been advanced in this article, the Court

of Great Britain _cannot_ agree to France having the least title to the

river Ohio, and the _territory in question_." [_N.B._ This was all the

country, from the Allegany mountains to the Ohio, and down the same,

and on both sides thereof to the river Mississippi.]

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